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Tony_FLADEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 12:57 AM
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Is there any evidence Cindy Sheehan called the Insurgents Freedom Fighters
I'm guessing the Moonie Times reported this.......
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InsultComicDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 01:00 AM
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1. here ya go
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cindy_Sheehan

In an interview given to Mark Knoller of CBS, Sheehan states her belief that the Iraq War has made terrorism worse and referred to the foreign insurgents coming to Iraq as "freedom fighters". "But now that we have decimated the country, the borders are open, freedom fighters from other countries are going in..."
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 01:13 AM
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7. Kinda like when the French came in and helped the colonial "insurgents"
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 01:00 AM
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2. Well...she has made some forehead slapping statements.
But to me they don't come near to outweighing the great, profound statements she's made.


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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 01:22 AM
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12. Not sure why that's a slapper
isn't it profound to be able to recognize your own country as an oppressor?
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 01:00 AM
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3. Yeah, I'm Wondering Where That Is Documented
Even IF it's true, it's a lie, taken WAY out of context, or a mistake, a "truism" if you will.
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Joyce78 Donating Member (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 01:09 AM
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4. Cindy Sheehan Did Not Lie the USA into WAR
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 01:13 AM
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8. AND THATS THE TRUTH
We have a bunch of criminals running this country and getting away with stealing,fraud, murder,lying and any number of crimes that should have landed all of them in prison.
As for what Cindy said or didnt say if you want to know ask her.She has no problem with telling you whether it is true or not.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 01:12 AM
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5. Don't people have a right to resist occupation and oppression?
You can bet old king george had some choice names for Tom Paine and Jefferson. The fledging US resisted his occupation with the force of arms, and probably killed some wonderful british lads. What do you call that? Terrorism? or Freedom fighters?
Suppose it depends on your perspective.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 07:24 AM
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14. They may be resisting occupation...
...but they certainly aren't resisting oppression. They want to be the new oppressors.
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ochazuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 01:12 AM
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6. fighting for freedom from American occupation
not fighting for 'freedom' in the abstract sense, of course, but how has 'freedom fighter' been used in the past?
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 01:15 AM
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9. Sure
O'Reilly heard from a source who says he knows this guy who has a brother-in-law who was at Camp Casey and he heard her say it then.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 01:19 AM
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10. To themselves they ARE Freedom Fighters.
Whether they are Freedom Fighters to the rest of us remains to be seen. In which condition is a people more free: when their country is under the control of another country, or when it is under its own control?

................................

By way of analogy: Certain Right Wingers in this country call themselves Patriots. I don't think they are, but do you suppose that is enough to convince them that they are wrong?

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 01:21 AM
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11. Who gives a shit?
She can call them anything she wants, that's what free speech is all about.
And they are freedom fighters, by any rational definition of that term.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 03:26 AM
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13. if she didn't, she should have. the insurgents are fighting for freedom
from bush's pucking power grab!
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 09:56 AM
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15. What is wrong with that statement?
They are Freedom fighters. The USA is an occupying force and they are seeking freedom from that force. It is a very good description of those we call "insurgents". They are better known as civilians and not a person we have killed in over three years has had a uniform on. We are slaughtering civilians..and they are trying to fight back the best they can.
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TrueAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 10:01 AM
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16. Cindy Sheenan
is not the sharpest knife in the drawer. So I give her a pass on this.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 01:20 PM
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17. Who is Cindy Sheenan?
Speaking of sharp knives... :eyes:
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TrueAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 01:37 PM
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19. The difference is
Edited on Wed Jan-04-06 01:38 PM by TrueAmerican
that I'm on a political forum and she's holding press briefings. A spelling mistake? Is that the standard now? Do you go around to every post and call everyone names who didn't check over their spelling before they post? Bill O'Reilly look out, Karenina is gunning for your job.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 04:16 PM
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24. I should think that
before setting out to declare someone else a dull knife one would sharpen one's own. Just thinking out loud. :think:

Dave Letterman exposed O'Reilly for the vicious propagandist that he is. I be jes a peaceful li'l o' Tante who likes plants and double reed instruments. (Can you name one?) I ain't errraaaa... "qualified fo'he job. Thanx anyway.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 01:26 PM
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18. They aren't freedom fighters. They are killing other Iraqis.
And they killed her son. Yeah, Bush helped with this bogus invasion of his, but they pulled the trigger.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 02:59 PM
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20. I have a problem with that too.
Our presence doesn't justify anyone killing those who are not engaged in combat.

However, just as it would have been acceptable for revolutionary American colonists to kill other colonists if they **fought** on the side of the British, it would be the same for Iraqis. But I don't think that is what is going on there.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 03:52 PM
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22. We've just given them the opportunity to do what they've always wanted
Saddam's tight rule meant that only he could kill to further his own cause. These groups HATE each other and do want to kill each other - we took away the iron fist that was stopping that. I guess you could call them freedom fighers in one sense - we gave them the freedom to kill and destroy.
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 03:04 PM
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21. Yeah, I've heard her say it.. So you gotta problem with that? I don't.
what the fuck would YOU be called if some foreign country attacked, bombed invaded and occupied your city? Wouldn't you be armed and defending your family, home, neighbors and community in any way you can?

I'd call you a freedom fighter.

and that's what a fucking INSURGENT is.
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 04:05 PM
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23. Often heard after 911 "One person's terraist is another person's freedom
fighter."

Anyone else recall that?
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 04:37 PM
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25. No, that was Reagan Quoting the Taliban fighting the Soviets
Edited on Wed Jan-04-06 04:42 PM by radio4progressives
in the 80's, while justifying giving military aid to the Taliban in Afghanistan, and while in the same breath defending U.S. paramilitary backed Death squads in El Salvador, Nicaragua and Honduras.

edited for more complete information...
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