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splat@14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 01:20 PM
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Texas Repulican congressman Ron Paul on the Patriot Act.
http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2005/tst122605.htm

December 26, 2005

Recent revelations that the National Security Agency has conducted broad surveillance of American citizens' emails and phone calls raise serious questions about the proper role of government in a free society. This is an important and healthy debate, one that too often goes ignored by Congress.

Public concerns about the misnamed Patriot Act are having an impact, as the Senate last week refused to reauthorize the bill for several years. Instead Congress will be back in Washington next month to consider many of the Act's most harmful provisions.



Of course most governments, including our own, cannot resist the temptation to spy on their citizens when it suits government purposes. But America is supposed to be different. We have a mechanism called the Constitution that is supposed to place limits on the power of the federal government. Why does the Constitution have an enumerated powers clause, if the government can do things wildly beyond those powers-- such as establish a domestic spying program? Why have a 4th Amendment, if it does not prohibit government from eavesdropping on phone calls without telling anyone?



We're told that September 11 th changed everything, that new government powers like the Patriot Act are necessary to thwart terrorism. But these are not the most dangerous times in American history, despite the self-flattery of our politicians and media. This is a nation that expelled the British, saw the White House burned to the ground in 1814, fought two world wars, and faced down the Soviet Union. September 11th does not justify ignoring the Constitution by creating broad new federal police powers. The rule of law is worthless if we ignore it whenever crises occur.



The administration assures us that domestic surveillance is done to protect us. But the crucial point is this: Government assurances are not good enough in a free society. The overwhelming burden must always be placed on government to justify any new encroachment on our liberty. Now that the emotions of September 11th have cooled, the American people are less willing to blindly accept terrorism as an excuse for expanding federal surveillance powers. Conservatives who support the Bush administration should remember that powers we give government today will not go away when future administrations take office.



Some Senators last week complained that the Patriot Act is misunderstood. But it's not the American public's fault nobody knows exactly what the Patriot Act does. The Act contains over 500 pages of detailed legalese, the full text of which was neither read nor made available to Congress in a reasonable time before it was voted on- which by itself should have convinced members to vote against it. Many of the surveillance powers authorized in the Act are not clearly defined and have not yet been tested. When they are tested, court challenges are sure to follow. It is precisely because we cannot predict how the Patriot Act will be interpreted and used in future decades that we should question it today.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 01:23 PM
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1. Ron Paul is a Libertarian that couldn't get elected as such
and had to become a Republican. I think he is much less dangerous, than the usual garden variety Republican.
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splat@14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 01:26 PM
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2. Agree. Don't agree with all his views but I respect his in-
dependant stance.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 01:43 PM
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4. I feel the same way
on certain issues he is right on point, on others he is kinda scary (a little xenophobic, I guess). At least he is consistent!

When it comes to civil liberties I think he is great.
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 02:41 AM
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11. I get his pamphlets in the mail all the time.
Edited on Wed Dec-28-05 02:44 AM by BikeWriter
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wtbymark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 01:28 PM
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3. excellent read- should be sent to every repuke/freeper
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redstateblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 01:44 PM
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5. To his credit- he has been consistently opposed to intervention
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 03:31 AM
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12. Very true, but he'll still lick the jackboots of these guys to lower taxes
Libertarianism is the stuff of adolescents: it simply can't work in anything larger than a medium-sized commune. It's extreme economic conservatism wedded to extreme personal freedom.

He can carp all he wants--and he has, to his credit--about reckless foreign interventions, but his selfishness and blinkered tautology will have him marching along with the social conservatives, the neocons and the paleocons as long as they deregulate (which only benefits the rich) and continually try to reduce taxes.

If he had the integrity he claims to have, he'd go independent and drag his fellows in the "libertarian caucus" along and caucus with the Democrats. He won't, though, because he scorns any public assistance, regulation, social safety nets or anything else that smacks of giving a damn about other human beings.

He's certainly an interesting character, but he's no more a friend of the left than George Galloway or John McCain.
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 02:48 PM
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6. Well I've never heard of this guy until now.
So far, I like him. I'm sure I disagree with most of his views, being that he's a Republican, but at least I respect him as someone who values freedom.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 03:11 PM
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7. He's a fucking idiot
Opposed to birth control, the UN, banks, labor unions, environmental laws, etc. etc. etc.....
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 03:56 PM
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 04:01 PM
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9. That's pretty much the same thing....
Paul IS a fucking idiot....and if you want to piss and moan about it, go to somebody who gives a shit.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 07:35 PM
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10. Well done Congressman Paul.
Unlike some of your other Republican colleagues, your somebody who actually uses their head.
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muchacho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:34 AM
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13. makes me proud to be a Texan
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