A quote form the 1946 Nuremberg Tribunal

[kentuck]

"...Tribunal rejected German arguments of "necessity" for pre-emptive attacks against its neighbors. "To initiate a war of aggression," said the Tribunal's judgement, "is not only an international crime: it is the supreme international crime differening only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole."

(Don't ask for a link - this was written down by hand sometime ago and source is not available)

[Lyle]

1. In other words....

...it is bad to go knock over your own twin towers, blame it on the terrorists, and then falsley link those terrorists to a middle eastern dictator, and proceeed to topple that country for their oil. Or something like that.

[kentuck]

2. Hitler invaded Poland as a "war of choice"...

not out of "necessity". But he said it was pre-emptive. Bush invaded Iraq as a "war of choice" but he says it was out of "necessity" because Saddam was a threat to us and his neighbors. Notice any similarities.....at all?

[Lyle]

3. The fascists have arrived - and they plan on staying. n/t

[Democrats_win]

6. The Poland comparison is very good. Notice he's still not contrite about

it. bu$h's pride won't allow him to confess his sins. The wrong of invading Iraq was just the start, add to that torture, spying on Americians, gutting FEMA and Homeland inSecurity etc.

[longship]

4. Welcome to DU

But watch out for the conspiracy theories. You are likely to start a flame fest.
:hi:


:popcorn:

[doublethink]

5. I read 'Nuremberg Diary' ......

awhile back by G.M. Gilbert. Highly recommended. Peace. :)

[kentuck]

7. Yes, he was a German-speaking military intelligence officer....

and also, a psychologist, who had daily access to all the indicted at Nuremberg and he kept his diary from those sessions. Originally copywrited in 1947

[doublethink]

8. Was interesting hearing from those indicted ......

come up with all their excuses as to why they 'weren't' guilty of the crimes committed by the Nazi regime. I recall only 3 got off to some extent out of about 20 accused war criminals covered in the book. Amazing really the correlation if you let your mind wander to what is taking place in the current administration. Peace. :)

[kentuck]

9. Just following orders at Abu Graib...

etc.. :shrug:

[doublethink]

12. Yea a lot of ETC .......

Human nature or should I say 'inhumane nature' doesn't seem to change over time if people refuse to learn from history. I remember reading the book and kept thinking 'that sounds like' and 'that sounds like' .... in referring to someone, or something in the Bush Administration. Actually I would recommend this book to anyone past and present ever involved in the Bush administration. At any level. And also to the American people who are curious as to the possible psychology of our own Country's present state. Eerie, but hopefully this too shall come to pass. Peace. :)

[mmonk]

10. Are you trying to undermine the preznet of the United States?

[Contrary1]

11. Here's a link to the proceedings:

Located in section 426 of the morning proceedings of Sept. 30, 1946:

The Common Plan or Conspiracy and Aggressive War

"The Tribunal now turns to the consideration of the Crimes against Peace charged in the Indictment. Count One of the Indictment charges the defendants with conspiring or having a common plan to commit crimes against peace. Count Two of the Indictment charges the defendants with committing specific crimes against peace by planning, preparing, initiating, and waging wars of aggression against a number of other states. It will be convenient to consider the question of the existence of a common plan and the question of aggressive war together, and to deal later in this Judgment with the question of the individual responsibility of the defendants.

The charges in the Indictment that the defendants planned and waged aggressive wars are charges of the utmost gravity. War is essentially an evil thing. Its consequences are not confined to the belligerent states alone, but affect the whole world.

To initiate a war of aggression, therefore, is not only an international crime; it is the supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole..."


http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/imt/proc/09-30-46.htm