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meisje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:31 PM
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Kerry or Dean in charge of Iraq intelligence probe - who would you trust?
Edited on Thu Jan-29-04 11:32 PM by meisje
Since Kerry and Dean had very different views on the invasion of Iraq before March 2003. Who would you now trust to get to the truth, the Beltway insider or the Vermont outsider?
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:34 PM
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1. Well, since Dean is the one who seemed to reach the correct conclusion
WITHOUT the benefit of being in Congress, I'd vote for Dean.

Kerry STILL defends his IWR vote...
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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:34 PM
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2. Im going to say Kucinich since he knew there were no WMDs since the start
The eyes that see through the lies!!!!
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isbister Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:38 PM
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3. How were their views different?
at the time you are talking about?
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:38 PM
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4. Kerry seems to have a bit too much at stake, considering his IWR vote
So, definitely Dean. I'd trust Dean much more with the interests of our country.
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creativelcro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:39 PM
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5. Dean. Kerry has shown poor judgement
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:39 PM
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6. Kerry, Dean would not know what he was looking at
Edwards would do as well given his seat in the intellegence deal.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:49 PM
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13. Kerry had access.............
to the same intelligence as Bush before the vote (or so it's been reported). Either he didn't know what he as looking at or simply didn't look at all. Each of those scenarios bothers me. Dean.
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:57 PM
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20. right you are
and if you or I had the same access we may very well come to the same conclusion. A third scenario that you fail to take into account.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:39 PM
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7. This isn't a job for either of them.
But I would go with Dean, if that was the choice.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:40 PM
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8. Show me where Biden-Lugar bill was "very different" from IWR.
.
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Oreegone Donating Member (726 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:41 PM
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9. Dean absolutely
I don't trust Kerrys judgement...
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:43 PM
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10. Dean. But that was obvious, wasn't it? n/t
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:43 PM
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11. I'd write-in Kucinich
:D
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kayob1 Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:48 PM
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12. Dean
Of course - duh.
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frustrated_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:51 PM
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14. Jesus Christ
Kerry let Iran-Contra get buried on A-8 in the frigging New York Times. The frigging New York Times! You may assume I would trust an investigator appointed by Dean over Kerry himself. Kerry folds, he doesn't pursue the issue.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:53 PM
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16. Whaaa????
Iran/Contra was all over the news. I didn't read the NYTimes back in the 80's and I knew about it. This is just silliness.
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frustrated_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 12:03 AM
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21. The dirt never got covered.
Edited on Fri Jan-30-04 12:05 AM by frustrated_lefty
It never got past Ollie North who ran naked around his neighborhood, waving a gun. It was covered well....to a point. It should have been pursued further, and it would have if it were pursued.

Edit...daughter just stepped on me and the kids have just gotten a puppy. Iran-Contra SHOULD have been pursued, and it would have been if Kerry were really dedicated to his job. Iran-contra was vile, and John Kerry could have done something about it. He didn't.
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For PaisAn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:53 PM
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15. Dean
no explanation necessary.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:53 PM
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17. Who do you support, Dean or Kerry?
What kind of question is this. Answers are obvious.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:55 PM
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18. Clark
He knows more about intelligence analysis than either one.
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gate of the sun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:55 PM
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19. I think Dean
I am not one of his supporter's but I'm pretty sure I can't trust Kerry well maybe I can since he's running against GW but since neither one is very likely to be asked it's well a mute point isin't it.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 12:05 AM
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22. Trust Clark!
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mb7588a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 12:31 AM
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23. Kerry. He's gotten to the bottom of some of the worst shit...
Edited on Fri Jan-30-04 12:32 AM by mb7588a
...this govt has ever done. NO disrespect meant to Dean at all (one can argue he got it right about Iraq and one could argue b/c of Biden-Luger that he didn't - that's still undecided in my head). Kerry DEFINITELY gets the advantage here. He's got the experience and the know how. He even saw some of the intelligence in question. He knows what it means to bleed for a mistake. Investigating Iraq intel. is not a job for an outsider. Also from a practical standpoint, Dean wouldn't even be elligable - he's neither a lawyer or a Senator/Congressman nor an expert on intelligence gathering/interpreting/reporting.

But if I were given other choices I could make equally good arguments for one of the more uuuuuuuuuber-principaled guys who have backbone - Feingold (most backbone in American politics, ain't scared of nobody) or Kennedy (Nobody stands up against the man.) or Edwards (He is actually on the Intel. Committee and a brilliant lawyer).
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 12:34 AM
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24. I'd have to choose
Howard Dean. He didn't trust the administraton any more than I did.
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