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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 07:17 PM
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George Clooney for president - Democrat 2008
This guy has it all going on. His understanding of issues facing the United States is substantial. He's got looks, charisma, intelligence, good TV appearance, and he's the perfect age.

He's got no record to run from. He'd be easy to raise money for and to organize for. Getting warm bodies to events would be easy.

I realize it's a little out of left field, but how would you feel about George Clooney as our standard bearer in 2008?

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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 07:19 PM
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1. Will it be a mini-series?
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Oceansaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 07:20 PM
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2. well, Ronnie & Arnie were actors.....
but its to early to call...we need to concentrate on '06
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 07:24 PM
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3. I say he runs for Congress in his Dad's footsteps, gets some
experience and then run for governor and then president. IF that's what he wants. He's been a pretty decent actor, I'd like to see him continue this pattern of indy films like he is. They've been quite influential and might do better for the mainstream in general than a run for office could ever do...
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 07:26 PM
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4. I wouldn't feel good about it.
Not that I don't like his views or how he presents them. It's more about his experience in the political arena. How effective could he really be?
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 07:29 PM
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5. He'd need to get experience, but really all he would be is a good face
to look at it. I think he needs to keep at his films -the kinds he's been doing lately(Good Night And Good Luck, Syriana). Those are things that can make a bigger difference than his run for office could ever do, IMHO
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 08:21 PM
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16. Bush had plenty of experience as governor
Maybe someone without political experience is just what we need. Like someone said about reporters without access to the White House being the only ones with the real stories. To me its a persons convictions that is most important.
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 08:32 PM
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17. We need someone who can WIN. We'll teach them how to lead.
Edited on Wed Dec-07-05 08:32 PM by Neil Lisst
I feel Clooney has a good understanding of the big picture. His work makes this readily inferable. His use of the classics in BROTHER, WHEREFOR ART THOU? is a good example. His new film about oil and its influence on international politics is another.

The resume really doesn't mean squat any more. Can you look good on TV, can you get good people to work for you, and can you raise big money?

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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 07:35 PM
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6. I don't vote for actors for president.
Period. Done with that. No more people acting as president.
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johnnyburma Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 07:41 PM
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7. He didn't even graduate from college.
Is that too much to ask for a presidential candidate?
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 07:44 PM
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8. So, Junior CAN'T even string a coherent sentence together
At present we have a borderline retard squatting in the WH...I doubt Junior could PASS a SIMPLE college test paper.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 07:46 PM
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9. In this country it may be.
Unless you come from a very comfortable family or want to take out enough school loans to buy a mansion in Monaco.
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 07:58 PM
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14. What's a degree have to do with intelligence??
Edited on Wed Dec-07-05 07:58 PM by Blue Belle
Bush has a MBA from Harvard yet maintains all the diction and grammatical wizardry of an 8 year old (same attention span too). He's the leader of the Free World, yet thinks Sweden is the neutral country with all the secret bank accounts and the guards with the funny costumes.

I'd rather have a President who had the intelligence to know when he's wrong and the fortitude to admit and fix a mistake.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 12:14 AM
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31. I still think that Poppy paid someone to take those MBA tests for Junior
There's no way that Junior could have gotten an MBA from Harvard...he's just too retarded.

I've heard of situations where people have been paid to take somebody elses exams. I think Poppy did this for Junior...let's face it, Poppy's bought everything else for Junior throughout Junior's complete waste of life, he's a 24-ct loser, always has been and always will be...plus he's dumber than a box of hammers.
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 08:24 AM
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34. I think you're right...
That's the only explaination I can think of. He's probably had "Test Takers" on the payrole since JR. was in Boarding School. :eyes:
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 10:40 AM
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44. Why bother with test takers when you can just buy the degree?
You only need to bribe ONE person for that!
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 07:47 PM
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10. I could get in a lot of trouble though.
Stalking a President probably carries a heavier penalty than just stalking a movie star.
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Lilli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 08:43 PM
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19. LMAO
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 10:41 AM
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45. Plus, the rape charge would probably put you away for awhile
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 07:47 PM
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11. George Clooney has always said he'd NEVER run for office...
He doesn't even feel that actors should go campaigning for candidates (as per his interview with Charlie Rose) because their notoriety does more harm than good. I love that George is vocal and well spoken when it comes to issues, and I love that he proudly wears the liberal banner, but he admits freely that his past is somewhat colorful, and he doesn't seek the political spotlight.
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Bryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 10:05 PM
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25. Yes, Clooney thinks his past would be too much of an obstacle
He jokes to reporters that he'd have to answer so many questions about his personal life that his slogan would have to be "Yeah, I Did It, And I Drank the Bong Water".
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 10:42 AM
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46. I couldn't do that - yuk... but I admire people that can!
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 07:47 PM
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12. I LIKE George Clooney, I wish we could get him into political office
Clooney is obviously intelligent, articulate, compassionate and caring.

Plus of course, he's a cutie pie.

He's interested in politics and he seems to have a good grasp of political issues...I wish we could get him to run...he could challenge the idiot Ernie Fletcher...I know Nick Clooney lost a Congressional race...but Fletcher's in a TOTAL mess and he's ripe for the picking in Kentucky.

If not Kentucky...we could run Clooney somewhere else.
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 07:52 PM
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13. after seeing the movie "the reagans" i saw how it is done. and
clooney sure has better looks than ronnie did.
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 08:15 PM
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15. The pubs have figured out it's the FACE that matters.
Reagan didn't win because he was experienced as a governor. He won because of his TV presence and demeanor.

I think Clooney sells. Getting the right people around him shouldn't be difficult. Applicants will be lined up around the block. He's like a smart, articulate version of Reagan.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 08:39 PM
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18. he'd get my vote. he's one of us. Plus does his homework.
That's more than most congressional reps or the Prez can say.
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 09:06 PM
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22. Every time I hear him speak, he does so intelligently, and with ...
... and with properly measured statements and decorum.

If I were casting the part, he's my next JFK.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 08:49 PM
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20. He might have to be the anti-Hillary.
Edited on Wed Dec-07-05 08:49 PM by iconoclastNYC
I dont trust her or her husband or anything else that crawled of the DLC swamp.

I want the old Democrats back, I'm done with the "new" Democrats.
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 09:04 PM
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21. Because of who he is, he can get away with being more liberal
than other Dems, I think.

That is what made Reagan acceptable to the middle, not his politics, which were too far right, but his personality.

I want someone who can win, and I'd support Rosie O'Donnell if she could win.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 09:19 PM
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23. Yes.
I think he could do more for our party if he ran as an Independant and really told us all the truth about what is happening to our party. Then with the wake up call we could really take the party.
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 10:33 PM
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27. We need someone to UNITE, to appeal to the middle, but to
but to bring real reforms.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 08:31 AM
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35. What is the MIDDLE?
And what appeals to them? This left right middle stuff is just about worthless. If our party shakes off the corporate agenda for america and returns to our roots fighting for the middle class instead of sucking up to the elite and the corporations they own we'll grow our base.

Gore and Kerry both tried to appeal to "the middle". How'd that work out for them?

Americans want liberal leadership. Americans reject self-hating liberalism that the DLC wants for our party.
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 10:44 AM
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47. I thought we were the 'new' democrats!
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 09:32 PM
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24. Maybe he should try a run for school trustee first
n/t
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 10:39 PM
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28. That's a really bad idea.
Someone like Clooney should not start off at less than Senator or Governor of California.

School trustee would be like having him do infomercials at 3 AM, a gross misuse of what he brings.
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UDenver20 Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 10:22 PM
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26. God help me.
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AmericanDream Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 10:45 PM
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29. oh, c'mon... are you dreaming out loud? Plus, I've heard him talk about
the issues... and I don't find his understanding "substantial." He is aware of the issues but his policy knowledge is no where close to what I like to see in a Presidential candidate (the kind I would vote for... not the freepers).
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 11:28 PM
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30. I don't share your opinion of him, or what it takes to win.
A candidate is a product line, and he's one we can sell.
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VaYallaDawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 08:32 AM
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36. Bingo! It's pure out-and-out marketing, Neil - as I firmly believe.
It's just like marketing any commodity - decide how you can make it appealing to the consumer, and then worry about the details - which attributes you emphasize, how it's better than competing products, etc. We liberals need (1) a spokesperson who is attractive to the average voter (as you pointed out, truthfully that can be almost anybody); and (2) a strategy/platform/differentiation that defines our niche and establishes it as superior to conservatism.
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 10:47 AM
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48. That's the sad truth, but the truth nonetheless
Abraham Lincoln could never get elected in the United States of Animaniacs.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 09:33 AM
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39. Absolutely. It's been that way for some time now.
"A candidate is a product line"


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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 01:26 AM
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32. I just saw this article about Clooney and his head injury.
Edited on Thu Dec-08-05 01:27 AM by Crazy Guggenheim
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=16397878&method=full&siteid=94762&headline=george-clooney-exclusive--i-piled-on-30lb-for-a-role---and-ended-up-tearing-my-spine--name_page.html

snip

Fluid from his spinal column began leaking from his mouth causing panic on the Morocco set of his forthcoming movie, Syriana, and George was rushed to hospital.

That was a year ago. He is still suffering excruciating headaches and short-term memory loss.

Two operations to repair his ruptured dura - the sac of fluid surrounding the brain and spinal cord - have so far failed to end his pain.


"It's been a tough year for me physically and I still have medical issues," says George, 44.

snip
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 01:38 AM
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33. well that sucks
dizzam, that hurts
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lynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 09:14 AM
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37. I find it frightening that anyone would pose that as a serious question.
- Nominate a candidate with minimal education that has never won an election or held a public office?

Might as well give the campaign $$$ to the homeless and just drive the new Repug president to the front door of the White House. Lot less stressful that way.
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 09:34 AM
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40. You're easily frightened, then.
Better lie down and let the feeling pass.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 09:30 AM
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38. I've thought this before myself.
I think he'd be a good President.

Even if he's not saying anything worth listening to, I can always look at him. LOL.
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 10:00 AM
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41. which is definitely an improvement over what we have now..
Although I hate the fact that we are talking as though the President of this country is nothing more than a face...or a product that someone marketed and had a great degree of success at selling...do we realize how shallow that makes all of us? That we'd be a party to such stupidity?? That our Democracy and our country are, in the end, no more important to us than that????

I used to think it was the fact that there was so obviously a price tag on the WH that disgusted me more than anything else...but if it's true that the president is nothing more than a marketing scam...then that possible reality left me almost totally speechless...and I guess I won't be donating to any of those "nothing but faces" or "products" any longer...let them make a fool out of someone else...
windbreeze
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 10:11 AM
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42. Just Wish His Movies Weren't Banned In Northern Wisconsin : ( (nt)
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 10:33 AM
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43. not just a little far out of left field...a lot
Dumb idea. No experience. Hell, the last time we had an actor as pres he actually had experience as a governor, and he was a freakin' disaster.
No thanks.

Who's gonna be his running mate? Danny DeVito?

onenote
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