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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 02:00 PM
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The more I read posts debating nomination, the more I think GORE
is the perfect candidate. Gore has none of the issues other potential candidates have.

It is becoming very clear he should be recruited to be our nominee, here is why:

1) VP experience for 8 years
2) clean and CLEAR anti Iraq war position
3) decisively progressive voting record in the senate
4) campaign experience for the top job
5) truly and literately getting America back on track!!!

We can pretend that the 8 years of horror under Bush never happened. Al Gore, as our president, would be the most healing experience for our country.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 02:02 PM
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1. I would support Gore 100%!
I've always liked him and thought he would make a great president because he doesn't just think about the here and now, he also looks to the future.



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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 04:54 PM
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35. I would support Gore 110%.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 06:21 PM
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60. I would support Gore 120%.
:P
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 01:49 AM
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68. I'll match your support, and kick it up another 10%. That's 130% to you.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 02:05 AM
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69. I support Gore
ONE BRAZILIAN PERCENT.

:evilgrin:
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 02:28 AM
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70. Damn. I can only match your support.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 01:56 PM
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73. Yeah.
That's what I thought.

:P
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 02:02 PM
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2. It's an interesting idea...
Now, who's his VP?

If you say Lieberman, you get a wedgie.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 02:05 PM
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4. Clark? Dean? Feingold?
Edited on Tue Dec-06-05 02:05 PM by BattyDem
:shrug:

On edit: CONYERS! :bounce:

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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 02:09 PM
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9. Hillary and/or Clark for VP spot - Edwards would be awesome!
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MemphisTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 02:14 PM
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14. Clark would be a strong VP choice with Gore
n/m
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 08:36 AM
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55. Boxer. n/t
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 02:04 PM
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3. Don't forget his pro-environmental views
Edited on Tue Dec-06-05 02:05 PM by CottonBear
and his plans to combat global warming and pollution. :)
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 02:06 PM
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5. He's my number ONE choice
he was that before he impressed me beyond words in the first few days after Katrina when he simply stepped up to the plate and showed us what "hard work" is all about

and he has consistently given phenomenal speeches and called our national plight as he saw it

PLUS - he's really BEEN President since 2000 - let's not forget he was elected and is therefore electable again, especially after the disaster that was selected in his place.

I'd say let's draft Gore and fix the crooked elections.
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shoelace414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 02:07 PM
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6. As someone else said.. he already won the presidency once.
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 02:07 PM
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7. Gore would get my support
he has really made himself into the kind of guy I like....one that isn't afraid to speak his mind.

He is also one of the few candidates that would enjoy fervent support from centrists AND progressives.
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Not Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 02:08 PM
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8. Gore: That would be so sweet
Too bad he will have to mop up the messes that should never have been allowed since 2000.
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 02:10 PM
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10. Gore needs to be drafted
Gore has always been my first choice based on all of your points. He has the vision thing down. He just needed to come across less wooden and if you have seen him lately he's licked that problem. Unlike Kerry, whom I like less every time he speaks, he's learned his lessons from his defeat snatched from the jaws of victory.
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SnowGoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 02:11 PM
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11. He's ready for the job.
Edited on Tue Dec-06-05 02:14 PM by SnowGoose
Who else really is?

I know some people like Wes Clark, but the American public doesn't generally warm to putting a person in the top job who's never had an elected office before.

Hillary? Come on, who even *really* believes she's running?

I agree with your reasoning Nimrod, and I think his time "in the wilderness" will resonate with people.

Gore's my pick - he's the only one that engenders a little bit of optimism in me about the future prospects for the USA.\

Edited for spelling
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wtbymark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 02:12 PM
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12. I've always liked Al Gore
I would support him
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MemphisTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 02:13 PM
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13. Gore is a very good man, I think he would have been
an excellent president. He just didn't run his campaigne very well. Let's start a draftAL campaigne.
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 02:15 PM
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15. It may be out there already...I am going to find it and join the effort.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 02:15 PM
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16. plus you can add his
unwavering support for the environment - he was speaking about global warming years ago.

I'm am a Gore supporter - I would love to see him run. I believe he could begin the healing process so needed in this country.
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 03:36 PM
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27. So true......Should be added!
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 02:18 PM
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17. Gore lost to the idiot...enough said.
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 02:24 PM
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18. I did not think he lost, I think the courts decided, no?
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 02:41 PM
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20. In case you haven't heard, Gore won the popular vote by 1/2 a million.
:eyes:
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 02:26 PM
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19. Sign petition here to draft Al Gore in 2008
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NeuvoLiberal Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 05:22 PM
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57. Grassroots for Gore
Hi Nimrod2005. Thanks for posting the link to the petition. I would like mention the Grassroots for Gore team blog which serves as the web-home for our draft movement. I would like to invite you and other Gore loyalists to write to me at (neuvoliberal AT yahoo DOT com) to join our team (i.e. receive invitations for authorship at the blog).

Thanks again.
NL
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madmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 02:41 PM
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21. I would have no problem voting for him again.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 02:52 PM
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22. I would support Gore 100%+
I regret that it wasn't until Nov 5th, 2000, that I began to learn about Al Gore and REALLY liked what I learned. Until then, I'd listened to too much of what the mushheads said. Though I DID vote for him, but, and rightly so it seems, I really didn't care for his running mate in 2000 :)
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 03:11 PM
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23. He would have my full support.
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 03:25 PM
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24. I like Gore best right now.
1. There is nothing new they can throw at him. He's battle tested. He made some mistakes, but I'm sure he learned from those.

2. He's the only person who can unite the party. I don't think any other candidate can do that.

3. You know he wants to cock block Hillary.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 05:02 PM
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36. Cock Block Hillary???
bwahahaha :evilgrin: :rofl:

You don't want to see the mental image I get from that statement!


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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 02:08 AM
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47. I was inspired by the Dave Chappelle skit honoring ...
... his character for his barroom finesse at breaking through two of home girl's blockers to score
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 03:27 PM
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25. Gore makes a great President n/t
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we can do it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 03:29 PM
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26. I Agree - and He Did In Fact WIN in 2000
Come on Al - what do you think?
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 03:40 PM
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28. Gore's not running.
eom
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 03:49 PM
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29. Yet. NT
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 06:32 PM
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42. True, but my fiance and I were talking about all his
business ventures the other day (we're in Tennessee - I grew up here) and we figured he was way too busy and way too happy to get back into politics.

Just a thought we had.
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NeuvoLiberal Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 05:41 PM
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58. while
I agree that he seems to be enjoying his business ventures as well as giving phenomenal speeches around the world, I do however believe that when called upon, he will put his country's stewardship above all else.
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 04:01 PM
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30. Signed and kicked
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musiclawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 04:07 PM
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31. Yes, he should be drafted
He is not stiff anymore. What he really needs to do though is go live tv and say florida and ohio were stolen. Boom just say it. No fear, just straight-up. The attacks will come so hard and furious that the truth will just kind of float up, like dustmites from a smacked mattress. It really will resonate in people's minds that he indeed is the past and future president.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 04:26 PM
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32. We were robbed of Al Gore's leadership on December 12, 2000.
I have recently heard him say that he is "a recovering politician", and not expressing interest in running for office again.

It is my fondest hope that Al Gore will find it in his heart and soul to run again in 2008. Al, we need you. Terribly.



IMHO, we can trace back the mockery and theft of our country's democratic founding principles to December 12, 2000, when a partisan Supreme Court ignored the will of the people to install the usurper into the White House.


Why I continue to nurture this hope for Gore to step forward again, to lead a weary and battered America out of this nightmare:


Gore was duly elected by the majority, 5 years ago.

A greed-driven, murderous impostor was installed by a partisan Supreme Court on December 12, 2000, outside due process, to America's horror. We were robbed of democracy that day. It is this mistake that we need to rectify.

Al Gore has quite an impressive intelligence, which appears to mesh seamlessly throughout most areas of his life.. leadership ability, responsibility to his family, personal integrity, goals to serve for the greater good of ordinary Americans and the desire to fight for us, which has only strengthened since 2000.

He has unmatched experience in the workings of the government, including Congress, the White House and foreign affairs. We've had a belly full of carping political handlers shaping the unelected resident. Marketing and management strategies don't belong in the White House, and we're disgusted with this deceitful perversion we have now.

He has shown that he is willing to look at his own mistakes with a critical eye and to learn from them. To become a better person for having learned these lessons... to laugh at himself, yet not let himself off the hook. Whether it's going home to Tennessee or educating young people about this wonderful country they must fight for; when he reflects with pride on the wonderful family he and Tipper have raised; the millions of Americans who supported him then and who support him NOW, this is a man who is unfailingly and clearly fighting for the average American citizen and the earth's resources. It is unmistakable.


The sorry excuse for media has not destroyed Gore. He is BACK, and he's turning on them in a way they've never seen. He's finally had enough of their lies and distortions of his integrity and his admirable record. He won't let them get away with it now. AND NEITHER WILL WE. This is the main focus of our hammering now... this rotting deceit inhabiting the electronic and print media. We know we're making progress when the screaming crescendo rips.

We MUST get behind Gore in cleaning up the media, and holding them accountable when they continue to spout lies to Americans. We've got a shrinking window of opportunity to stop this massive hemorrhaging of our freedoms and this assault on our existence by impostor patriots. We know who they are.


Gore is the man to help us take back our country and our lives. This is the man to restore some sense into our foreign policy. This is the man to restore our basic rights as citizens. This is the man to stop the wasting of our natural and human resources. This is the man to pave the way to alternative sources of fuel. This is the man who will refuse to treat water as a bargaining chip against poor people in the world.

This is the man who will refuse to attack other nations with no reason and with bullying impunity. This is the man to address our economic woes and get to the bottom of corporate thievery and put a stop to it. This is the man to create jobs for our people here in the U. S., again. This is the man to give older people and strapped young families the chance to afford BOTH food AND medicine.

This is the man to restore international treaties and the now battered respect of other nations. This is the man to stop the killing of elephants for ivory trade. This is the man to help poor countries become more educated and self-sufficient in order to grow food, decrease infant mortality, improve basic health care, to support the education to curb rampant overpopulation and to prevent the scourge of AIDS.

This is the man to overhaul our election system once and for all, where every voter exudes confidence that no skulduggery has occurred when we elect our leaders. This is the man we will NOT likely find guilty of insider trading, drunk driving, military desertion, unabashed disrespect for people less fortunate then himself, disdain for the environment or other countries (when he is shown where they are on the map).

This is the man we will NOT likely find guilty of waging illegal, preemptive and aggressive wars against innocent people, whether it be a war of greed on Iraq or a war of contempt and neglect on the people of New Orleans. This is the man we will NOT likely find guilty of submitting prisoners to torture, illegal detention or gutting their rights to legal representation.

This is the man we will NOT accuse of being soulless and wanton when our children look back on our history. This man will NOT bleed oil when he nicks himself shaving.

This is the man to comfort us and the rest of the world that we have not lost our minds, only distracted for an unfortunate moment in history.

This is the man.
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 04:31 PM
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33. WOW! cool post....Thanks.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 05:38 PM
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40. Outstanding post, sefan!
I agree with everything you said, I feel like we have been living in Pottersville ever since 12/12/20, another day that will "live in infamy".

I believe Al is the most capable, decent, visionary that has come along in over fifty years. He is first on the environment, first on changing our global consumer based economy to a sustainable one, first on the democratization of information when he championed the internet,(for which he was punished by the MSM whores), first to come out against the folly of waging a premeditated war on Iraq, first to come out with a scathing critique of Bush's torture tactics, first for the victims of New Orleans and above all, he was first with the American People,when they elected him to be President in 2000 only to have their voices silenced by a non-precedent setting 5-4 "Supreme Court" (ridden with conflict of interest).

I think if Al were drafted and put back in the White House where he belongs, there would be most excellent Karma throughout the land, and it would go long way to healing our nation and restoring our good standing in the global community.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 04:53 PM
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34. Environmental issues - Global Warming and weaning off Oil, new energy
resources - we need that and his credibility on those issues is better then almost anyone else.

That is another huge plus for him.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 05:19 PM
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37. Gore/Kerry. That's my pick. Platform: "Poetic Justice."
Gore was giving terrific speeches last year. A man on fire. His speech on torture would make you cry. It did me. And Kerry's not doing so bad himself lately--if he'd only drop his "how to succeed in Iraq" malarkey. (Does the man have no memory?)

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Sign Russ Holt Petition: http://www.rushholt.com/petition.html
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 08:13 PM
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44. I like that ticket
These men are NOT damaged goods in my book. :thumbsup:
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Alpharetta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 05:20 PM
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38. Count me in. He's learned some good political lessons since 2000 too

I was disappointed with the way Gore campaigned in 2000.

I think he did not sufficiently separate himself from either Bush or Clinton in 2000, but now he is capable of doing that.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 05:24 PM
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39. He would get my vote a second time...nt
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 06:25 PM
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41. BEEN SCREAMING THIS for ages.
He's the only really viable candidate other than maybe Clark or Edwards; and is stronger than those two. Let's do it.
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 08:08 PM
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43. I would tend to agree w/ you
And I think that adding Clark as VP would be a one-two punch. Then when he is elected, he can put Kerry in his Cabinet! That would create visible steam from most repubs heads! :D
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Gingergal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 08:21 PM
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45. Gore would have my vote any time.
n/t
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:15 AM
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46. Knows most vital of issues: enviroinment and eco catastrophes.
Mocked for his logical interest in the environment and for having excellent views, Gore will appear to be our salvation. Why? By 07, the furies will be string more frequently and we'll realize that the reports that the studies were true: by 2030, millions of us will be choking to death on filth in the air. We will need his wisdome thera more than ever.
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WatchWhatISay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 02:51 AM
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48. He is our best chance
And he has earned the right.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 02:58 AM
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49. I'd go Gore. He's a fighter.
I haven't lost trust in him.
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farmboxer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 03:56 AM
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50. President Gore should be re-elected, afterall,
he won in 2000 and he can win even bigger in 2008!!!!!!
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 04:25 AM
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52. Hi farmboxer! I've been wondering where you've been.
Good to see you again. :hi:
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 04:23 AM
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51. WHY I LIKE GORE?
Edited on Wed Dec-07-05 04:25 AM by iconoclastNYC
He endorsed DEAN.

I'd just love love love for there to be a bombshell like:

GORE DECLARES INDEPENDANT RUN FOR PRESIDENT : "I'm doing it for the country I love and the party I want back from the Corporatists that control it."

If the 2008 primary is as fishy as the 2004 primary then I could see this happening. If the two party system is a racket (THE DLC and Vote Fraud makes me wonder if the fix is in) the only way it can be fixed is by a THIRD party candidate with a HUGE NAME.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 04:29 AM
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53. Yes.
Edited on Wed Dec-07-05 04:29 AM by iconoclastNYC
Maybe we can just hope he's a better actor then Hillary when presented with the "Are you going to run in 2008" question. Even CONDI left herself a little room while answering "NO, REALLY, NO. BUT NEVER SAY NEVER"
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Blasphemer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 05:30 AM
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54. He's my pick for sure
I really hope he changes his mind though I suspect the big reason he doesn't want to is his family which I completely respect. He could unify the party like no one else and I believe he would be the best President the country has seen since FDR.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 05:17 PM
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56. Kick (nt)
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 06:04 PM
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59. Reasons why Gore is not the perfect candidate
"1) VP experience for 8 years"

This didn't help him the first time.

"3) decisively progressive voting record in the senate"

He was tabbed for the VP slot based on his more conservative Dem credentials.

"4) campaign experience for the top job"

That was one of the worst campaign so not exactly a big hope. His people also helped Kerry.

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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 06:28 PM
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61. You're nit picking. Who do you advocate for?
If you have a candidate you want to promote, it's appropriate to disclose that when you explain your reasons Gore doesn't work. Your "rebuttal" is laughable. Gore is perceived as a progressive, and he always has been a progressive. He's considered acceptable by more segments of the party than any candidate I can see on the horizon.

Gore has done something no other Dem has done the past 5 years: win the popular vote. He's clean. He's not identified with the Dem cave in of 2002, and the inability to find a voice for two years.

Tell us which candidate is BETTER than Gore for 2008.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 06:54 PM
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62. Which version of Al Gore did you buy? 2.0, 3.0?
"Gore is perceived as a progressive, and he always has been a progressive"

Percieved is the key word...now he is. Check out his voting record from his Senatorial days.

"Gore has done something no other Dem has done the past 5 years: win the popular vote."

Based on two elections that's quite a record :eyes:

"He's clean. He's not identified with the Dem cave in of 2002, and the inability to find a voice for two years."

Do you really think you'll see the firebrand we have in the past few years? You'll see the muted managed version, I'll put money on it right now.

The biggest factor why Gore shouldn't be the nominee?

The only candidate to win a Presidency after losing a previous Presidential election(not nomination by the party) in modern times was Nixon. And he faced a split Democratic party with the Vietnam War hanging over Dem heads.

Oh and I love that fact that I must disclose any potential candidate I may want to see to be able to comment on Gore.

Here are a couple of candidates I like:

Wes Clark - makes sense on foriegn policy

John Edwards - great speaker, truly gives a shit about the poor.

But Gore? Please, if he were always so progressive, he wouldn't have to wait until he was in the wilderness to prove so. And by that logic should he re-enter the arena he will likely retreat to his incarnation.
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 08:17 PM
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64. I can't take seriously anyone who uses rolling eyes smilies.
I don't even bother reading such posts.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 11:49 AM
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72. How's the view up there? (nt)
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 08:27 PM
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66. exactly
..especially the "conservative Dem credentials" part.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 03:14 PM
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74. Reasons why Gore is the perfect candidate.
Edited on Thu Dec-08-05 03:29 PM by Uncle Joe
1. V.P. experience for 8 years, not to mention sixteen years in Congress as Representative and Senator, apparently this did help as he won the election in 2000.

2. Progressive and Moderate voting record in Congress, he was tabbed by Clinton, because Clinton thought correctly that Al was the most qualified candidate to become President. Al Gore was a much bigger name on the national scene in 92 than Clinton, and Clinton's poll ratings shot up after announcing Al as his running mate and Ross Perot briefly dropped out of the race.

3. Considering the fact that Al came from approximately 20 points down prior to the 2000 convention with the Clinton impeachment scandal dragging at him against a very hostile corpwhorate owned MSM, to beat Bush nationwide by more than a half a million votes, causes me to think he ran an admirable campaign.

4. He empowered you when he championed the internet to post your criticisms of him or your praise for your favorite candidate for the entire the planet to see, tell me anything any other potential candidate has done to empower you so? The MSM whores trashed him relentlessly for giving you this power, sort of like the vulture that would eat Prometheus's liver for all eternity for stealing fire from heaven and giving it to man in ancient Greek mythology. He has not stopped with the internet either, his "Current Television" is the first to allow mass two way communication from the grassroots up. We are only talking about revolutionizing democracy here.

5. Al Gore has been a lone voice in the wilderness with his warnings of the dangers that global warming pose to our entire planet. Bush's daddy called him "ozone man" for his environmental efforts on your behalf. Of course the MSM whores treated him like a kook, until New Orleans drowned as he said it might in 1992 with his environmental classic "Earth In The Balance", this was approximately 13 years before Bush's people thought such a thing could happen.

6. He recently gave a speech to the WE Media citing the dangers to our democracy posed by American Journalism abdicating it's responsibility to tell the truth to the American People. This of course was for the most part not covered by the corpwhorate owned MSM, I will be back on edit with a link to this speech.

7. He is speaking around the world to this day, trying to change our economic model from just consumer based to sustainable based economies, he recognizes and acts (again a head of the curve) on initiatives to save mankind from global disaster. He believes, if we do not act future wars will be over water, or fishing grounds etc. and we must act now to avoid global catastrophe.

8. He was the first to come out against the willful premeditated war against Iraq, the MSM whores did not report on the substance or content of his speech, they just said he was ranting or off his meds. Today the MSM is criticizing Bush for the very things Al warned against, in that speech.

9. Al Gore is a policy wonk and a historical philosopher, this is precisely what the nation needs today. We need a wonk in charge because the processes are all so screwed up now, and Al has a better grip on our core democratic values than anyone else. He was the first to come out ripping Bush a new orifice, regarding our abandoning the Geneva Conventions and enabling if not advocating torture in our name.

10. He was elected to be President in 2000 only to be denied by a non-precedent setting 5-4 "Supreme Court" decision riddled with conflict of interest, so he has the moral high ground to be in the White House.

11. Al has never quit on the American People, and I for one will never quit on him.

http://www.tpmcafe.com/story/2005/10/5/14301/6133


Al Gore gave a speech this morning on the decline of the media, our public discourse and the threat to American democracy itself. The transcript beneath the break ...


Remarks by Al Gore as prepared
Associated Press / The Media Center
October 5, 2005

"I came here today because I believe that American democracy is in grave danger. It is no longer possible to ignore the strangeness of our public discourse . I know that I am not the only one who feels that something has gone basically and badly wrong in the way America's fabled "marketplace of ideas" now functions.

How many of you, I wonder, have heard a friend or a family member in the last few years remark that it's almost as if America has entered "an alternate universe"?

I thought maybe it was an aberration when three-quarters of Americans said they believed that Saddam Hussein was responsible for attacking us on September 11, 2001. But more than four years later, between a third and a half still believe Saddam was personally responsible for planning and supporting the attack.

At first I thought the exhaustive, non-stop coverage of the O.J. trial was just an unfortunate excess that marked an unwelcome departure from the normal good sense and judgment of our television news media. But now we know that it was merely an early example of a new pattern of serial obsessions that periodically take over the airwaves for weeks at a time."

<snip>

Well worth reading and much more below snip.


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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 03:17 PM
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75. Excellent, thank you.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 03:19 PM
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76. My pleasure Nimrod2005, thanks for the thread. n/t
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 06:08 PM
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77. Sanctimonious....always a winner of converts...
And pro-life is progressive to moderate?

And a great campaign? a bunch of stupid little mistakes that gave the media free reign to go hog wild? Lockbox was a great one too. Geez take off the rose colored glaases. The fact that Bush was even close is evidence of a bad campaign. That Gore's people also worked on the Kerry campign also speaks volumes.

And its this simple, I will not vote for Gore for the nominee. If Al Gore is the nominee, I will vote for him.

But he will lose.



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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 11:32 AM
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78. Giving you the voice to trash him for all the world to see was progressive
, whether this sounds sanctimonious or not is irrelevant. What human does not make mistakes? If Bush gets his way with Social Security, you will come to wish it had been kept in a lock box. Furthermore the focus on the word "lock box" as opposed covering the multitude of Bush lies and mistakes during the 2000 debates is just more evidence of MSM whore dom.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 08:25 PM
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65. As much as a I like Gore, I have to disagree with some of your list.
Edited on Wed Dec-07-05 08:26 PM by wyldwolf
Gore simply isn't the "progressive" you believe him to be.

For example, the welfare reform package Bill Clinton is vilified for was actually Gore's baby.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 10:49 PM
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67. I like the DLC recovered Gore, I like Dean. I like Kucinich. I like Gov
Doyle from Wisconsin. I like Feingold. Lots of people out there that don't have to be corporate DLC whores.
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Bluesplayer Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 02:53 AM
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71. He's the only one
who can heal things here, as well as in the rest of the world. Show me the petition - I'll sign it.
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capitalistdemocrat Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 12:05 PM
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79. Gore is old news
Besides, Gore was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. We don't need any more politicians like him.

On the other hand, Mark Warner is a self-made man who is the first one in his family to go to college. He will be the nominee in ’08.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 12:18 PM
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80. Al Gore was not born with a silver spoon in his mouth,
his daddy worked his ass off on the family farm to instill discipline, unlike Bush. We have the power to make old news, new again especially when the old news was good news.
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capitalistdemocrat Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 12:39 PM
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81. I agree with you about Bush
I just didn’t think that this thread was about idiots.

Nevertheless, my previous remarks stand. Gore was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. He’s been pampered with trust funds all his life and doesn’t know a thing about what real people face in the real world.

Besides, he sure didn’t handle the set up that Clinton left him very well at all.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 01:32 PM
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82. If someone is born poor, middle class, above middle class or
wealthy, I do not hold that against them, I believe, if I remember correctly Franklin Roosevelt was born to a well to do family. I pay more attention to their words and deeds.

Al Gore has consistently stood for basic American Values, he did it when he championed the internet giving us all a voice,thereby democratizing information, only to be trashed by the MSM Whores for his efforts. He is still doing it today by revolutionizing television with his Current T.V. changing it from one way to two way communication. Most recently he gave a speech to the We Media about the dangers to our democracy by a dysfunctional press which had abdicated it's responsibility to tell the truth to the American People.

He did it when he held hearings in congress on toxic dumps in neighborhoods which began with Toon, Tennessee and expanded to include Love Canal. He did it when he authored his classic environmental treatise "Earth In The Balance", well worth reading if you have not. He warned us in that book about the dangers of global warming and the potential of New Orleans being flooded by a hurricane in 1992. He did it just recently when he came to the rescue of 270 patients, doctors and evacuees stranded in New Orleans by covering the cost of two flights at $50,000 each, (I think a Pizza Man may have insisted on covering one of them later) and bringing them to Tennessee. Apparently Al knew what those people were facing.

He did it when he was the first to come out strongly against the premeditated willful war against Iraq, this was when it was not so popular to do so, the MSM whores did not cover the content or substance of his speech, rather they just reported that he was ranting or off his meds. Today that same MSM is criticizing Bush for the very things Al warned us about in that speech.

Regarding Clinton, I do not think Bill left Al a good set up, Al persevered and won the election in spite of this, only to be denied by a non precedent setting 5-4 "Supreme Court" decision riddled with conflict of interest. Too bad, we did not have a real Supreme Court like Ukraine.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 03:11 PM
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83. I like Gore, but let's debate about 2006 and getting out of Iraq
then he can run (if he wants to).
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