Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

What ever happened with the oil barrons that lied

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
Check12 Donating Member (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:32 AM
Original message
What ever happened with the oil barrons that lied
to congress?

What are our beloved republican congress critters going to do about it?

Let me guess.. not a damn thing?

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:56 AM
Response to Original message
1. I have the feeling that they all want to leave that alone. If the lid...
...ever comes off of the secret energy summit meetings, people are going to end up in prison.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:59 AM
Response to Original message
2. They're all looking
for bigger mansions to sink their ill-gotten gains into
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 04:24 AM
Response to Reply #2
3. In Florida right?
the tax laws let you do that sort of thing there, even if you are convicted of a felony, don't you get to keep your "homestead"?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 07:10 AM
Response to Reply #3
4. I don't think any state takes your home if you're convicted of a felony.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 07:10 AM
Response to Reply #3
5. I don't think any state takes your home if you're convicted of a felony.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 01:48 PM
Response to Reply #5
6. Homestead Law
This is what I was thinking of:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homestead_exemption

Immunity from forced sale

States provide different levels of protection under their homestead exemption laws. Some only protect property up to a certain value, and if a home is worth more than that, the creditor can still force the sale of that home, but the owner can keep a certain amount of the proceeds of the sale.

Texas, Florida, and Oklahoma have some of the broadest homestead protections in the U.S., in terms of the value of property that can be protected. Texas' homestead exemption has no limit on dollar value of the homestead with a 10 acres limit inside a municipality (the urban homestead) and 100 acres outside a municipality (the rural homestead). The rural acre allotment is doubled for a family--200 acreas can be shielded from creditors in Texas for a rural homestead. The Texas homestead includes all substantially affixed items on the homestead--houses, swimming pools, a water tower, barn, pumps, roads, etc. The Oklahoma exemptions protect 160 acres of land of any value outside of a municipality's corporate limits (as well as those areas annexed by cities and towns after 1997) or 1 acre of land of any value within a municipality's corporate limits.

Florida's homestead exemption provision has no limit to the value of property that can be protected, so long as the property occupies no more than ½ acre (2,000 m²) within a municipality, or 160 acres (647,000 m²) outside of a municipality.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:36 PM
Response to Original message
7. They went to the same place the abu garib photos & videos went...n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
obreaslan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:39 PM
Response to Original message
8. They received record profits for the 4th quarter....
and went home to wipe their asses with the American flag while laughing at pictures of poor Americans struggling to pay their bills. :grr:


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:49 PM
Response to Original message
9. You mean these oil companies? The ones boosh invaded Iraq for?
THE ROVING EYE
China, Russia and the Iraqi oil game
By Pepe Escobar

November 1, 2002

The war of positioning for a possible post-Saddam Iraqi environment is getting more ruthless by the minute. American oil conglomerates are openly courting representatives of the Iraqi National Congress (INC), the umbrella opposition. The darling of Exxon Mobil and Chevron Texaco is Ahmed Chalabi, US vice President Dick Cheney's pal and major contender for the title of Iraq's number one opposition figure. Chalabi, the INC leader, has already stressed on the record that he favors the creation of a "US-led consortium to develop Iraqi oil fields. American companies will have a big shot at Iraqi oil."

. . .

China has been playing an extremely active role behind closed doors in the current negotiations on the text of the new Security Council resolution on Iraq and arms inspections. The dispute only apparently is between a US-led and a French-led text. UN sources confirm the Chinese align with the French position - even though President George W Bush has said that he had a "deal" after he met Chinese President Jiang Zemin in Texas at the weekend. China is positively against an American attack on Iraq: it fears subsequent sky-high oil prices or even the interruption of supplies.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/DK01Ak02.html

That's odd. I don't remember the American press talking about boosh divvying up oil with the Chinese when he was still telling us that Saddam was a bad man but that he hadn't made up his mind yet about war.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
3waygeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 07:24 PM
Response to Original message
10. Well they weren't under oath
so they didn't perjure themselves.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 07:34 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. not perjury but still a crime
lying to Congress is a crime ...

the last i heard, Dems were pressuring Stevens to recall the oil boys and make them testify under oath ...

also, Lautenberg was supposedly going to refer the matter to the Justice Department ...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed Apr 24th 2024, 04:56 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC