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wwcsmd Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 12:07 AM
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Cynthia McKinney for Prez?
I know, not ever expecting it based on "odds" but, just tell me I wouldn't be the only one to vote for her were it an option?...

There are times when I get so frickin scared of this world, well, this country's authoritarians, I just wish I had enough money for a passport and some gas money, because then I'd run in fear across the border and disappear into the woods of Canada...

One thing that has sometimes kept me from losing my mind, even though I'm not able to do that, is that my Representative happens to be (same Dist I was born and raised in BTW) Ms. McKinney, who happens to be just about the most progressive/aggressive/honest/tinhat (in a good way) representative this country currently has to offer. And knowing my neighbors are progressive enough to have supported her for a long time now too is also a positive thing.

Just sayin, if it was up to me, she's one person I know of whom I'd actually trust to go in and clean up the shit. If it were up to me, I'd nom her prez.

(Too bad this is just a theoretical/wishin post from me.)

PS Why is there no Cyn icon on DU?! She deserves one! Actually, I went to make one for myself, then I found out you can only add your own if you're a contrib (not a complaint, just is), and alas, at the moment, I have only spare change to my name, not to mention no credit or banking acct. :P
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 12:11 AM
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1. She's great
But I believe the most qualified in the last election was Mosely-Braun
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 12:12 AM
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2. Oh please......
no.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 12:18 AM
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3. Where is carol Moseley-Braun these days anyway?
She's so incredibly well-spoken and is a truly incredible person. :hug:

But she seems to have faded completely off the radar lately..
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 12:34 AM
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4. Yes, there are many points where she is right on
but there are also major issues that I have with her

She was correct on the Iraq war, but when she made sweeping generalizations about Jews during her campaign she lost me along with her father

It could be argued that her support from Muslim donations allowed her to win back her seat in the house

Instead of going after "Jews" she could have gone after PNAC, or the Israelli lobby, and it would have had more credibility

When the discussion selectively blames a whole group of people, that is where I have a problem

It is as obscene as many Americans blaming ALL Muslims for 9/11 or that all Muslims are terrorists

When it gets down to the bottom line, most people just want to live and let live



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wwcsmd Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 01:54 AM
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7. Please edumacate me...
Cause honestly I don't want to be a dumbass regarding my support for my rep. :) Maybe I don't actually have all the info I need on CM. I was just so bolstered by what she's said about 911, and lately, about Katrina, and has said against Bushco and the Military-Ind Complex... such a different tune than most every other porkbarreldweller.

From what I understand, there's some complexity in seperating the truth from the 'ganda regarding McKinney. I do remember seeing ads against her featuring her father, but then, I'd also heard that 'they' used 'ganda to run her out of office that time because of her 911 questioning. (My dad held totally different views from me on a number of things, so I didn't give much credence to Billy McKinney ads.) I was just going by things I knew she said, along with a few articles pointing out things she didn't actually say even though it'd been said she did.

But if she was indeed wholesale "blaming Jews" for anything, eek. Someone please point me to a decent source and I will reevaluate what I thought I thought about her. Thanks.

PS I try, I do, best I can with lots of other stuff going on in my life... but if someone were to say "Jews" honestly my first thought would be, "I love their Manischewitz Blackberry Wine." I know it can be a bigger issue, regarding Israel in particular, but having grown up with, dated, and lived with various Jewish people, it's a keyword that has tended to go in one ear and out the other as being a "difference" no greater than was soccer player vs. track & field team vs. pep club member.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 03:19 AM
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8. I am not saying you shouldn't support her
Edited on Mon Nov-21-05 03:23 AM by still_one
I am just saying that in my view there are definitely some character flaws

She has definitely made some reckless statements, some through her father

She accused bush of allowing the 9/11 attacks to proceed so his friends in the defense industry would profit from the ensuing war

I personally sympathize with that view, but as a congress person, it is an extremely reckless position, unless there is unrefutable proof. In general that is what distinguishes the Democrats from these repuke thugs that have taken over their party. In her defense she did call for an investigation to see if bush had prior knowledge, but you must have some basis before you do that. Today there is a basis

After 9/11 Giuliani returned a 10 million gift to saudi prince alwleed bin talal, after he indicated that events like 9/11 occur because of Israel. McKinney issued a public letter supporting the prince. What bothered me at that time was the majority of the hijackers came from Saudi Arab, which is one of the most supressive regimes in the region

These are just my feelings. There is no question that she does support liberal positions, and I personnaly do not believe she is anti-Jewish, but like I said, I do have some issues with her over-reactions in some cases.

Please keep in mind that the media also misrepresented her after 9/11, but then again they misrepresented everything, including why we should NOT have gone into IRAQ!!!

Incidently, McKinney supported a House resolution condemning European antisemitism, a measure which passed in a unanimous vote, and she supports Israel's right to exist

She is a very complicated person, and for me that is not a way to win the white house today


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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 01:01 AM
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5. Bad idea.
:puke:
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 01:45 AM
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6. She speaks for us all
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 03:23 AM
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9. and who gave you the authority to "speak for all of us"?
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 08:46 AM
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10. And you speak for yourself.
or at the very least, not me.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 09:05 AM
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11. I'd find it very hard to vote
for her. Very hard.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 09:08 AM
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12. Yeah, why not?
Can't be any worse than the Bozos we have running things now.
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whatever4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 09:32 AM
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13. I made a point of remembering her name after watching her speak on CSPAN
I'm a terrible one for names, so I made sure I remembered hers, because of what she said and how she said it, after I watched her speak. Her mannerisms, with her glasses. And how stern she was. When it mattered to be stern, and more people should have been, she was. She was honest and she reflects the outrage of the people, with dignity.

I'd vote her for any office she'd seek to hold. President? Absolutely.
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wwcsmd Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 08:51 PM
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19. That's awesome...
"I'm a terrible one for names, so I made sure I remembered hers, because of what she said and how she said it, after I watched her speak. Her mannerisms, with her glasses. And how stern she was. When it mattered to be stern, and more people should have been, she was. She was honest and she reflects the outrage of the people, with dignity."

Do you remember what she was speaking about? Or, how long ago was this?

I don't expect that she's perfect, but there's something about her that makes me relieved she's out there.

I'm particularly interested in her House address of 9/11/05 on Katrina, both for what she said, and for what she supposedly said which supposedly got omitted from the official transcript (http://www.rense.com/general67/specorder.htm), but I've already paged through CSPAN's video files and alas could not find it archived there.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 12:21 PM
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14. Cynthia for pres. is OK by me
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Hyernel Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 04:08 PM
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15. No, never
:thumbsdown:
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 07:07 PM
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16. I'd certainly vote for her in the general election
In the primaries I doubt that I would, only because electability is a major consideration in the primaries. And there will probably be good candidates that are a whole lot more electable than her.
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woldnewton Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 07:29 PM
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17. They wanted her...
as the Green Party candidate. She turned them down. She is a great example of being as left-leaning as you can get, to the point of being considered "radical" but working within the party for better or for worse, even when that party lets you... and her down.

They abandoned her, but even fighting on her own with the scorn of her hometown paper, the AJC, she came back, and is fighting hard.
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wwcsmd Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 08:16 PM
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18. And she continues to speak to her people as best she can...
Even in the AJC... This from their Opinion section just 4 days ago (11/24)...

"Nuclear plants safe? Claim is unsound"

http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/opinion/1105/24edmckinney.html

Final paragraph, with fab closing statement: ONLY A SPIN DOCTOR:

"Anyone who raises concerns about nuclear power safety gets branded as a fearmonger. Were the writers at the Times-Picayune labeled that when as early as 1998 they predicted that a Category 3 hurricane could breach the levees and flood New Orleans? But even when the "fearmongers" turn out to be right, as they did in Louisiana, why should we worry? Haven't we all seen how swiftly and judiciously the Federal Emergency Management Agency and the Department of Homeland Security respond to catastrophe? Frist wants Georgia to embrace building nuclear reactors. I am told Frist is a doctor. What kind of doctor would tell Georgians that their nuclear plants have a "sound safety record" when the facts say otherwise? Only a spin doctor."
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