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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 03:54 PM
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They are going to steal VA!!!!! Here we go again
Read this from Citizens for Legitimate Government:

November 8, 2005
Voters report problems with voting machines in Roanoke Co.

Election day voting is going on across the Old Dominion, but everything has not gone smoothly in Roanoke County.

News 7 has received calls from several voters in at least four different precincts who say their votes for Tim Kaine were not recorded or took several attempts to go through.

They contend the electronic touch screens repeatedly indicated they were voting for Republican candidate Jerry Kilgore instead of registering their intended vote for his Democratic opponent Tim Kaine.

Roanoke Co. Registrar Judy Stokes says she doesn't want to say the problem is operator error on the part of the voters, but she points out the touch screens are sensitive. She says anyone who is having difficulty voting should ask one of the poll workers for assistance.

State election officials have been told of the problem. They believe if there is a problem, it could have been caused by the way the machines were stored.

The Kaine campaign is reportedly watching the situation in Roanoke County.



I'm pissed and I just found out that next year I'll be voting on Diebold machines which Va. Beach has just purchased, 900 of them.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 03:55 PM
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1. You don't say. It's the same broken system with the same secret
software.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 03:55 PM
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2. Don't let these reports discourage you from voting.
Go Vote.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 03:56 PM
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3. operator error. they are all supposed to vote for kilgore.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 03:56 PM
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4. We voted. Our precincts use optical scan.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 03:56 PM
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5. I've been thinking that since Bush showed up last night and all the media
started to say how close it was and how the Dems were overselling the races as a referendum on Bush.

It doesn't take much to figure out how the media and BushInc work hand in hand.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 03:58 PM
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6. I believe the only way people will get rid
of diebold machines is to enter the precincts and bash them with bats or hammers. Short of that, you have to trust the corporations that make the machines to be American instead of evil.
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pa28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 03:58 PM
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7. I'd like to see this on video.
Hopefully somebody will capture it.
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yy4me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 03:58 PM
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8. The way they were stored? Who had access to the storage
area? Was someone checking the storage area in the dark of the night. This is pathetic, or is a better word "criminal"?
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Christa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 03:58 PM
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9. I will be surprised if we win any of the elections
I hope I am wrong - but I just don't trust them.

According to all the polls we should win, but will we?
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 04:00 PM
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10. Noticably - glitches seem to always favor GOP candidate
If this was a random bug it should only favor the Republican candidate half the time. How many times has this happened? The odds of accident are cut in half each time.

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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 04:18 PM
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18. Yeah, No SHIT !
:puke: :argh:
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 04:00 PM
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11. "could have been caused by the way the machines were stored." Now
that I don't believe.
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 04:00 PM
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12. Here's the original source: wdbj7.com
Edited on Tue Nov-08-05 04:04 PM by greyl
http://www.wdbj7.com/Global/story.asp?S=4089899

edit: btw, I think it's a bit early to make such a defeated outcry.
Vigilance is great, sensationalism is much less great. :)
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 04:06 PM
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13. We are at war, you know, so all means are allowed to protect Ameican
people from Democrats. Is that why Bush -- and Kilgore -- felt it was safe for B to appear yesterday and campaign for K?
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 04:06 PM
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14. I'm pissed too
I also found out about the Diebold machines today in Virginia Beach. I watched a demonstration, and then I asked the horrid question, "where's the paper". The guy looked at me its all counted up right here in the machine. :banghead:

He gave me the choice of using Diebold or punchcard, well I used the punch card. What made me even madder is who the hell decided this, I don't remember being asked or that we voted on it. :argh:

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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 04:39 PM
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21. I'm calling Pat Harrington at 757 427 8683
She is the head of the Voter Registrar. We should all call her and tell her she has not heard the last from us.
I plan to fight these machines until they sell them back to Diebold.
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 04:39 PM
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22. I'm calling Pat Harrington at 757 427 8683
She is the head of the Voter Registrar. We should all call her and tell her she has not heard the last from us.
I plan to fight these machines until they sell them back to Diebold.
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 04:40 PM
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23. I'm calling Pat Harrington at 757 427 8683
She is the head of the Voter Registrar. We should all call her and tell her she has not heard the last from us.
I plan to fight these machines until they sell them back to Diebold.
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 04:40 PM
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24. I'm calling Pat Harrington at 757 427 8683
She is the head of the Voter Registrar. We should all call her and tell her she has not heard the last from us.
I plan to fight these machines until they sell them back to Diebold.
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 04:41 PM
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25. Woops! my machine is moving slow, I hit post message too many times.
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 04:10 PM
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15. caused by the way they were stored?
B fucking S. Caused by the way they were fucking made is more like it. DUH!

I'm so glad we vote with paper up here, and it will probably be a long time before we get those stupid fucking diebold P's O S.

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lakeguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 04:27 PM
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20. maybe they meant WHERE they were stored....
in kilgore's basement until the night before the election i'll bet.
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 04:11 PM
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16. Yes, people still vote!
This is the "dry run" for the big races in 2006. Vote and then let www.blackboxvoting.org (consumer protection for elections) know what your voting experience was like.
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tibbiit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 04:14 PM
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17. You know what, until
the Dems start screaming about this it wont stop.
I believe the fix is in, which is why they are saying its a referemdum for Bush. This happened in 200, 2002, and 2004... when ever they look down, then claim a ref. then the fix is in.

What I REALLY dont get is the "no big deal" attitude of the dems.
WHY dont they seem to give a shit about this?
tib
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 04:21 PM
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19. We all SAW THIS COMING. Dont Mourn. PUBLICIZE IT!
America wants to hear about Election Fraud this time around, because America wants to reassured that it didnt not elect Monkey Boy and Dick Vader in 2004. Give America proof that election fraud is real and that it existed in 2004, too.

Document the fraud that is taking place today.
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darkism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 04:43 PM
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26. Let 'em steal it. They can't hide it this time.
Maybe Kilgore will "win" by a small enough margin (after cheating) for Kaine to contest the election. That means a full investigation, which will once and for all expose how crooked the machines are.

I'd like to see them try and steal this one.
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woldnewton Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 06:35 PM
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32. I'll believe it...
when I see the press conference where Kaine outright tells the American people he believes Kilgore stole the election and that he's contesting the results. Not before!
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smb Donating Member (761 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 04:43 PM
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27. Stored?
They believe if there is a problem, it could have been caused by the way the machines were stored.

Yeah -- the problem is that they were stored where the fraudsters could insert their secret instructions....
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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 04:58 PM
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28. Of course! It is always DEMOCRATS
who are way too stupid to work them new-fangled mo-chines. I'm sure the reason we NEVER EVER hear of Democratic votes being recorded for Pukes is because Pukes are simply soooooo much smarter. Right.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 05:02 PM
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29. Question for anyone who knows....
Does the Democratic party have someone overseeing some of the voting locations?

In a situation in Ohio where Diebold were used, two election officials were fired after they complained that towards the end of the election.. a panel was removed from some of the machines and replaced with another one.

Evidently, they'll be filing a lawsuit.. but in the meantime.. is there oversight at polling places to watch that type of activity? :shrug:
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 06:27 PM
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30. This will never stop.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 06:31 PM
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31. Agreed.
How many elections will have to be stolen before the people wake up & realize that this is not just tin foil hats talking. It's a very real & serious issue.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 06:40 PM
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33. I'm shocked!
There were still DUers around here last night saying this wouldn't happen. Even some of us think the GOP won't cheat to win. How are we ever going to beat something we won't even admit is a problem?
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 06:42 PM
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34. Dump those machines in the harbor NOW!!!
This is anti-american bullshit. Diebold gives accurate transactions with receipts for their ATMs and credit card readers but the voting machines are only to help Republicans.

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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 06:52 PM
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36. I have absolutely no doubt that Diebold is evil
That's what I voted on today and I found myself curious if my vote will truly be counted, however, I do think some of the problems coming up is operator error. Just like the butterfly ballots in FL, I think some people are having issues with the act of electronic voting.
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In Truth We Trust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 08:48 PM
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37. Paper ballots NOW! Hand counts NOW!!!
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 08:18 AM
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38. Apperently not
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