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joeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 01:29 AM
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Freepers try to explain Bush's record low numbers
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1515445/posts

They use everything from the standard, polls are BS to someone actually claiming that Bush's numbers are pretty good compared to other presidents. What reality are these people living in?

I'm surprised they even let the thread continue because the original story is so negative for Bush. While you are over there, hold your breath from the stench then give it a kick.
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keopeli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 01:32 AM
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1. I don't want to waste my beautiful mind on the calamities at FreeperVille
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 01:33 AM
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2. They are silly people
There's not a poll in the country who doesn't reflect Bush with negative ratings. They just don't want to accept it. You can educate, but you can't stop silliness.
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 02:01 AM
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8. You are so kind to call it "silliness."
Seriously, that's really nice of you. I'm not nearly as forgiving.
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AussieDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 01:36 AM
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3. Asshats
"These polls make me sick. I've yet to find someone who took part in a legit one, but then again I could never find anyone during the Clinton Administration who would admit they voted for him, so his 2 terms of office must have been 'fixed' or 'bought'.<<

Clinton never got a majority of the vote. Ever hear the dems admitting that?

It was minority rule, that's why he was so impotent.

DK"


I want some of what these jerkoffs are smokin' !!!!!!
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 01:36 AM
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4. they need a day where no one can bring up the name CLINTON
LOL OMG THAT WOULD BE FUNNY WOULDN'T IT ??? THEY WOULD FOAM AT THE MOUTH.
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joeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 01:40 AM
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5. They hate that the big dog left office with 65% approval.
But they never mention that fact. I'm sure in their world that poll was a sham too.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 01:40 AM
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6. They might have to defend W
Edited on Fri Nov-04-05 01:41 AM by Erika
who is indefensible. They would rather hate Clinton, who's been out of office for five years. Freepers can't quite manage logic.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 01:49 AM
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7. They'd lapse into catatonic schizophrenia.
:spray:
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 02:18 AM
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9. Two weeks ago it was because of "high gas prices"
After the congress requested Exxon Mobil's presence at a hearing on price gouging, a gallon dropped from $2.80 to $2.10.

Buxh's approval rating dropped from about 43% to 35%.

Maybe it's his breath.
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Daphne08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 02:44 AM
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10. Unacknowledged cognitive dissonance
The freepers will have to look up that one. :rofl:

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ballaratocker Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 03:37 AM
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11. My analogy.
Bush is (for the moderates who were fooled at the last election cycle) like waking up with someone unsavory after a night of a few too many amber beverages. However, the Freepers are yet to take the cold shower that will sober them up and snap them back to reality.
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Craig3410 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 08:48 AM
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22. Except, unfortunately, there isn't a cold enough shower in the world.
Welcome to DU. :hi:
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 11:35 AM
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25. Hi ballaratocker!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 08:34 PM
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33. 111,135
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Robert Cooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 04:19 AM
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12. This says it all...
"Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We're Know We're Dead Wrong."

From a freeper sig.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 05:34 AM
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13. What?
That's a real signature?

Seriously?
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 05:47 AM
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14. yes, it's real bumpersticker. they stick to their convictions... libbey
and delay included.
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Robert Cooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 07:34 AM
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16. Here's how you find it
Use the link Joe provided at the top of this discussion and look for the following:

--
To: ruschpa
Inflation is low, the price of gas is coming down, grocery prices will come down as well and even eating out is getting cheaper. How people can say the economy is in bad shape is beyond me. Of course if all have to go by the MSM's picture, the country's in the dumps. The reality is different. Makes you wonder who they polled when people say the nation is on the wrong track.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We're Know We're Dead Wrong.")

24 posted on 11/03/2005 11:48:13 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
--

"24" is the response number


Apparently the conviction they stick to is stupidity ;-)
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semillama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 08:52 AM
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23. how funny is that sig line
that they quote William Shatner's delusional lawyer, uttering a line that SLAMS republicans, and think it's a good statement that represents them?


VERY funny.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 07:39 AM
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19. Geeeez!!!
:rofl:
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 06:20 AM
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15. Oh boy. And the old fall back...
<<Mr.President you need to use the Bully Pulpit more.>> :eyes:

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Robert Cooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 07:35 AM
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17. Keyword: "Bully"
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 07:37 AM
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18. Hell.... it has to be CLINTONS fault isn't it??
I can't go over to that pathetic site but come on people but the blame where it lies--on Bill Clinton!!!
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Orrin_73 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 07:49 AM
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20. freeper mind is not evolved it is at the same level as the
neanderthaler, oh wait they ARE neanderthalers.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 08:45 AM
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21. "Polls are BS"???
Freeptard Bushbots did NOTHING but cite polls during the presidential election season!
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 09:41 AM
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24. His polls are "good compared to (WHAT) other presidents"?!!
That's sort of like a drunken driver who just totaled the car...standing back and saying, through blurry-eyes, the damage's not bad.

Sorrry Freeper's, time to sober up. No more 'rabbit hole' defense. Come to the day "light."
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 12:08 PM
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26. Someone needs to post this article for the Freepers to ponder
http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1998/12/20/impea...

December 20, 1998

In the wake of the House of Representatives' approval of two articles of impeachment, Bill Clinton's approval rating has jumped 10 points to 73 percent, the latest CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll shows.

That's not only an all-time high for Clinton, it also beats the highest approval rating President Ronald Reagan ever had.

At the same time, the number of Americans with an unfavorable view of the Republican Party has jumped 10 points; less than a third of the country now has a favorable view of the GOP.

...snip

The poll, released Sunday, also shows that 35 percent approve of the House's decision to impeach the president.

MORE...

(Gee, I do believe more people now support a Bush impeachment than ever did Clinton's!)
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 03:10 PM
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27. Freepers live in a sort of bio-sphere only instead of a glass dome they
Edited on Fri Nov-04-05 03:12 PM by Mountainman
live under a denial dome. No truth or reason can get through and only waste can come out. They manufacture their own truths on the spot to convince each other that what is real really isn't real.

To bad little freepers, most Americans do not buy the lies anymore. They demand the truth.

Why don't you get about 4 or 5 porta potties and hold a pro Bush rally on the Mall in DC. You might just get a handful of people to show up. Then post the pictures and write a glowing post on the successful freep you had. Those are so fun to read and you all look like such dumb shits in your pictures with your anti-liberal signs. By the way, the troops don't support the war anymore either.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 03:41 PM
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28. This Freep's signature line is a hoot...
"Inflation is low, the price of gas is coming down, grocery prices will come down as well and even eating out is getting cheaper. How people can say the economy is in bad shape is beyond me. Of course if all have to go by the MSM's picture, the country's in the dumps. The reality is different. Makes you wonder who they polled when people say the nation is on the wrong track."

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We're Know We're Dead Wrong.")

Does he think that statement was complimentary?


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RUMPLEMINTZ Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 05:37 PM
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29. After looking into the demographics of the recent polls
Edited on Fri Nov-04-05 05:38 PM by RUMPLEMINTZ
Democrats are oversampled. According to the Washington Post poll the breakdown is 31% Democrats, 27% repugs, 38% indy. When "leaners" are factored it it's 52% Democrats, 41% repugs, and 6% indys

<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/pos... >

The CBS poll sample is 35% Democrats, 24% repugs, and 41% indys

<http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/11/02/opinion/polls... >

The AP/Ipsos poll sample is 49% Democrat, 40% repugs, and 9% indys.

<http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/11/02/opinion/polls... >

Not sure what difference any of this means but it does look like more Democrats were polled than repugs.

Woops, edited cause I had CBS twice. Here is the AP/Ipsos poll

<http://www.ipsos-na.com/news/client/act_dsp_pdf.cfm?nam... >
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sandyd921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 07:06 PM
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30. They're using a random sample
and this reflects the distribution of political affiliations in the samples. Historically, on a national basis, there has always been more registered Democrats than registered Republicans. Random sampling is standard practice in all types of statistical studies. When the number of participants in a sample is sufficient (1000 or so is acceptable) it should reflect how particular traits or attitudes are distributed in the entire population that is of interest (in this case US voters).
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RUMPLEMINTZ Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 07:25 PM
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31. I thought after the last
election the breakdown was 37%D, 37%r, and 26% Indy's?
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sandyd921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 08:26 PM
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32. Statistics I found for 2004
33% Democrats
28 - 29% Republicans
24% Independents

These are from two sources:
Harris Poll: http://www.harrisinteractive.com/harris_poll/index.asp?...
Pew Research: http://people-press.org/commentary/display.php3?Analysi...
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RUMPLEMINTZ Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 09:10 PM
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34. This says
37% Democrats, 37% repugs, and 26% Indys

<http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/U... >
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sandyd921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 10:54 PM
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35. The ones I've cited are based on
random sampling not necessarily connected with who voted in 2004, yours is based on exit polling of people who voted in 2004.

Of course another possible explanation for the higher number of people identifying as Democrats in the polls you cited in your earlier post is that fewer people are saying that they are Republicans. They don't check people's voter registration cards when they call to poll them. Maybe fewer people are saying that they are repubs? Wouldn't surprise me.
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