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sandyd921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:28 PM
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Cuts in student aid are "good" for students
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It was clear from the very start of the long and drama-less drafting session that the top Republicans on the education committee, having agreed to cut more than $18 billion from the programs under their jurisdiction as part of a larger “budget reconciliation” effort by House leaders to cut $50 billion, would stick together and pass the legislation, which the panel’s chairman, Rep. John A. Boehner (R-Ohio), said would “strengthen higher education programs and expand college access for low- and middle-income students,” while doing the committee’s part to reduce the burgeoning federal deficit.
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link: http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2005/10/27/reconciliation

I'll bet there are lots of students and their families who will be down on bended knee thanking the :puke:s

:sarcasm:
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:29 PM
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1. I know I will!
I'll be thanking them with the business end of a fucking Louisville Slugger to an effigy of George W. Bush. Assholes.
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sandyd921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:35 PM
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5. We need to
let all the students and parents we know who will be affected. Just another opportunity to make sure they know who's stickin it to 'em:argh:
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:31 PM
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2. yeah, the same way that low wages are good for workers...ala anti-min wage
Republicans!
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:53 PM
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8. Yes, like less wealth
is good for rich people.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:33 PM
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3. This happened in the early 1980s. It kept me out of grad school.
The Reaganistas advanced the same failed solution.

And don't get me wrong, I'm not crying for pity. It was a major personal setback at the time, but I eventually got into the field I wanted -- psychobiology -- through on-the-job training in subfields that were uncredentialed at the time.

Of course, the rise of Professionalism™ makes that back-door method impossible these days. The Man has sealed off all entryways that did not have tollbooths and ID checks. Keeps the riff-raff out, don't y'know.

--p!
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:34 PM
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4. Historical Note About The Post WW 2 "GI Bill"
In retrospect, we know that the Post WW 2 "GI Bill" moved the depression reared "Greatest Generation" into the Middle Class.

But, the personal papers of Admiral Ben Morrell (who in the latter stages of WW2 was FDR's "Assistant Secretary of War for Post War Demobilization") originally proposed the Post WW 2 "GI Bill" to delay the re-entry of the veterans into the labor market for 2-4 years.

The worry was that the flood of demobilized GI's would cause the Great Depression to continue.

Hence the massive pump priming of GI Bill Education and Housing and the Reconstruction Finance Corp demobilization of munitions factories.

Of course, we have already conceded the 21st Century to India and China s BushCo dismantles the country, so, WTF.

:wtf:
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 10:25 PM
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12. I am no expert in this but I have seen two stats that
should be considered in planning for our education. First was a small newspaper item (source ?) that said in the next 4-5 years 50% of government workers would be retiring. That is probably similar to the other sector.

Secondly, we are still dealing with the need for skilled workers to replace the boomers as they retire. I suppose this last item is somewhat alleviated by outsourcing! However, we will still need many skills right here. If we are not going to educate the students now who is going to fill these empty spaces?
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:36 PM
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6. yeah I'm happy that I had to go part-time and sit out a year, it was good
for me to do so. I should have my degree by now and I would if Al Gore was president.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:40 PM
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7. John Boehner is a corporate shill if I've ever seen one
That's the only people he seems to care about.
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:55 PM
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9. I'm trying very hard to understand this
can anyone spare a moment to share their understanding of this, to a layman? My head is spinning. I have a parent who believes that I should be spending some savings for my child's college, on a trip for him to Florida. I said I can't touch it, God knows I don't want to see the day his grades would get him into a great college and it would be the money that kept him out. She said he could just take out loans.

The reasoning I know is flawed all in itself, but I do very much want to back up my statement that I felt he may not be able to count on loans.

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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 10:13 PM
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10. Yes. And wars are good for the military, hurricanes help coastal areas,
and Republicans are compassionate.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 10:14 PM
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11. up=down, clear skies=unending pollution, etc. . . . .n/t
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drb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 10:37 PM
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13. Cutting congress-schmucks' pay would be good for them, too!
nt
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