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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 05:53 PM
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Government needs to control big oil?
I think when it comes to products that people cannot live without government needs to have some control over the prices.Gasoline, natural gas,fuel oil.We cannot make usual consumer decisions on these products,and they have a large effect on the economy especially jobs.I don't see how we can trust a handful of greedy corporate thieves with our countries lively hood.
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 05:56 PM
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1. Especially NG, a natural Monopoly in local areas, yet many...
governments thought it was a good idea to "deregulate" them as well, idiots!!!!!
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 06:00 PM
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2. But here's the deal: The big corporations and the government ARE THE SAME!
This is the plan. If it's not the King, it's the Church. If it's not the Church, it's the Big Corporations. The nice thing is, they make us like it by giving us the consumer crap we so desire.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 06:16 PM
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4. First estate clergy, second estate nobility,
third estate Congress, fourth estate press. Everyone else is disposable.
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 06:57 PM
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5. And each of these estates has been been corporatized:
The RW church, the "investor class," the lobby-ruled legislature, and the MSM and cable "news." It's a done deal.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 08:43 PM
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11. Sounds like you've hit the nail dead straight on the head!
Now I know why people become drug addicts.
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 07:56 PM
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7. It's time We The People
took back our society!We need afew good people to root out corruption and expose the fraud government has become.
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ken_g Donating Member (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 06:05 PM
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3. I think a better way would be a government research project for
alternatives. An "Apollo Project" on energy (that term is almost getting cliche). If the government and the people truly got behind it, prices for oil would lower as far as the market could bare. That's what happened in the early '80's (Saudis swamped the market) and destroyed backing alternative energy research funding - and young George Bush's dream of oil wealth.

Only this time, they'd have to commit to it long term no matter what the oil companies do.
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 07:55 PM
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6. I agree 100%
A Manhattan project for alternative fuel source,but until then some limits on greed should be in place.WE do need to keep beating the alternative fuel source drum consistently.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 07:59 PM
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8. Oh bring it on!
Throw in national health and I'm with you!
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 08:01 PM
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9. You certainly don't let corporations control big oil.
Now that corporations control the government, well there is nothing really to stop them now.
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 08:05 PM
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10. I disagree. The government DOES need to regulate, but not actually
control the industry.

Look at the BMV.

Do you really want to stand at the front of the line for a half hour just to get a gallon of gas?
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 08:22 AM
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15. If economy goes in the crapper
because of their greed it'll be a moot point,because I won't be able to afford a car or heat my house.
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Pharlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 09:15 PM
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12. Khaddafi figured that out in 1972.
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Lannes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 09:18 PM
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13. I dont want them nationalized
But I wouldnt mind seeing a windfall profits tax put on them that cant be passed on to the customer.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 09:28 PM
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14. Let's analyze this
Even if it was nationalized, prices still would be high for fuel do to high demand and short supply. What is a better proposal is to create a seperate national energy company that produce alternative fuels on a moderate scale, just to get balance out prices. That way you would have price control, that would help the economy because of the increased competition.
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 08:25 AM
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16. I'm all for alternative fuels.
Until then,something must be done.Just the fact that you have no choice in the matter makes it ripe for fraud.
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I_am_Spartacus Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 09:22 AM
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17. Yes, let's analyze this. Oil companies are having record profits
on record revenues.

So, substract those profits from revenues and you have some idea of the price at which oil could be sold by a nationalized oil company. It probably would be significantly lower.
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