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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 07:27 AM
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Iraq: "If you knew then, what you know now,...
would you still have voted to...blah blah blah..."

Why are the Dems dropping the ball on this question?
Seems to be a common question on the talking heads circuit now.

Being asked this question is the PERFECT opening to run down the "laundry list" of falsehoods and lies from the Bu$h Junta regarding Iraq, and to claim deception.

Instead, people like Schumer, are saying, "Yes I still would vote to invade".

When is my party going to get some balls, swing for the fence, and start telling it like it is?
I am fucking sick of this shit.
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BobBoudelangFan69 Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 07:32 AM
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1. But, I Did Know Then That It Was Wrong, It Is Wrong,
Don't let anyone off on this. Those who sent USA to war must be held accountable.

Don't accept I didn't know what was being done. Hold them accountable!


Bush Lied. People Died. Media Cheered.
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 07:40 AM
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5. Double that...
If a brain dead twit like myself could use Google to find the fallacies of the Bushie's war propaganda during the lead up to the slaughter, there's no excuse for our Dem leaders to have dropped the ball so egregiously.

Hold the bastards accountable, indeed.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:03 AM
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12. Right on. And I love your DU name. It must rip the Freeper spies
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 12:36 PM
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18. Hi BobBoudelangFan69!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 07:33 AM
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2. No win answer
"I made a mistake' means I'm stupid, believed the propaganda and can't be trusted to make good decisions by ferreting out truth from fiction.

"I would still support invasion" means, I'm stupid and would go into an idiotic war for no reason even though I now know that its a disaster that we won't win, will cost tens of thousands of lives and hundreds of billions of dollars to make matters in the world worse.

they should have voted the right way to begin with.
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bluethruandthru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 07:33 AM
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3. It's too bad that Shumer and others
think that if they say they were lied to by this administration and that's the reason they voted for this war..that they'll look weak. Why don't they realize that admitting this would make them look strong?
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 07:34 AM
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4. I frankly thought Congress would not give Bush the power
He had become President so oddly I was sure the Dem. would not go along. I think a list of every one that voted for this war should be run daily and we should vote no on every one of them. They should have protected us.
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 07:40 AM
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6. You're right
Prior to them voting I was researching the "lead up" to war.
Just my internet searching and research told me that this was a smokescreen.

Now, if little old me can know this then why the HELL didn't those in power? Don't they have staff members that could have researched this?
Bullshit...absolute bullshit.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 07:46 AM
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 07:50 AM
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8. I guess they thought that...
voting for war would give them "cover".

It just may have the opposite effect.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 07:59 AM
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9. If you're a New Yorker, vote against Schumer in the primary.
Otherwise, focus on your own elected officials.
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:01 AM
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10. Then tell Schumer to...
stay off National TV shows with his tripe!
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:03 AM
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11. Tell the shows that invite him to stop doing so.
Otherwise, you really don't have any say over what Schumer does or does not do. He is not your elected official. You are not his constituent.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:16 AM
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13. 1. They don't want to risk being called flip-floppers
is my guess.

2. They're afraid they don't have enough "cover" to step up and say they've changed their minds.

3. They're beholden to the oil companies and military contractors who are making huge bucks off this war.
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wishlist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:21 AM
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14. Bingo- don't want to be labeled flip-floppers and undermining troops
Dems are afraid Repubs will smear them as wishy washy unpatriotic wimps who would have let Saddam remain in power, if they now say they would have voted against the war. Repubs would talk about them wanting to cut and run when the going gets tough and soft on terrorism, etc.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:45 AM
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15. "They are afraid"
that's the problem in a nutshell.

They are cowardly whores, selling out, and killing tens of thousands in the process.

They should all be in the Hague at a war crimes trial for enabling the neocon war of aggression
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 04:53 PM
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20. What are the dems so afraid of? The press?
Why does no one have any courage?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 09:15 AM
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:47 AM
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16. Why, when the war is so unpopular, our guys keep saying this crap is
beyond me. For the love of God, admit you were duped and then go on from there. It is indefensible.
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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 01:05 PM
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19. If I knew NOW what I knew THEN.
I still wouldn't have voted for it then....or now.
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