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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 06:40 AM
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Excellent Point About Cheney, Courtesy of Jane Hamsher
"Cheney was interviewed by Fitzgerald last year under oath. That would make it perjury to tell a lie. Although Republican logic tells us that perjury is only a crime if you're getting a blow job in the bargain, a legitimate US attorney might not see it that way.

What indication do we have that Cheney lied? Well, if Cheney he had told the truth when he was interviewed last year, i.e., that he was Scooter Libby's source, Fitzgerald would not have needed to threaten Judy Miller and Matt Cooper with jail in order to counter Scooter Libby's testimony that he first heard about Valerie Plame's identity from journalists."

"...in other words: the testimonies of Cooper and Miller were necessary to bust Libby in a lie."


Source: Jane Hamsher
http://firedoglake.blogspot.com/

Logical conclusion: Fitzgerald has Cheney on perjury. Furthermore, Jane Hamsher points out that it would've been a crime for Cheney to lie to Fitzgerald whether Cheney were under oath or not.
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 06:50 AM
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1. Very good analysis
thanks for sharing this. The pieces are coming together.

Remember - Martha Stewart went to jail for lying to prosecutors - and when she lied, she was not under oath.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 06:54 AM
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2. Heh heh... that's right! No lyin' when it comes to the feds!
This is gonna be fun! Hey--it's ALREADY fun!
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 07:08 AM
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3. Was Cheney sworn? * wasn't.
I recall that they just "visited" with the special prosecutor (with their lawyers present).
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 07:42 AM
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4. Any time that you lie to a federal officer, investigating a crime, it
is a felony - obstruction of justice. It makes no difference whether you are under oath or not...
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 07:50 AM
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5. perjury and obstruction of justice.....
wonderful..!:bounce:

Now... how is it that they can "prove" Bush knew what Cheney apparently knew? He will at least look like the loser he is, when he claims he's unaware what his own VP and staff are doing, and also..not being privy to the same info they had? Then you have, the logic.. of course he knew. Then he lied to everyone. Just thinking it takes "one" REAL patriot, to spill the beans on Bush. Do we have ONE? Just ONE.

No wonder Scotty wouldn't answer Helen, who asked repeatedly, why doesn't the president call in his staff and find out what's going on!?!... They couldn't say he did, and they lied to him. They couldn't say he didn't, cuz then we'd think him the incompetent he is. Besides, he probably didn't need to, since he knew everything anyway. That's my belief. I bet it's Fitz's too. Hope he got the answers.

Can anyone say "unindicted co-conspirator"?
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:02 AM
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7. 18 USC 1001, ask Martha Stewart. She did time for that crime. n/t
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A Simple Game Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 07:55 AM
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6. What indication do we have that Cheney lied?
Well the obvious one is, was his mouth moving?

But yours seems more logical.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:12 AM
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8. A really good one!
If Cheney had told the truth earlier, when interviewed by Fitzgerald, Fitz wouldn't have had to go through that painstaking bit of getting testimony from every reporter Scooty-Scoot had talked to. Scooty-Scoot said he learned about Wilson's wife from a reporter. Fitz has proven that this is not true. Now it comes out that Scooty-Scoot actually learned about Wilson's wife from Cheney.

This is "new news". That means it was not revealed before! That means Cheney did not reveal it. That means Cheney lied to Fitz.
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