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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 10:09 PM
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Bush supporters circle the wagons
Richard W. Stevenson and David Johnston, New York Times
Last update: October 23, 2005 at 9:43 PM

With a decision expected this week on possible indictments in the CIA leak case, allies of the White House suggested Sunday that they intended to pursue a strategy of attacking any criminal charges as a disagreement over legal technicalities or the product of an overzealous prosecutor. <snip>

On Sunday, Republicans appeared to be preparing to blunt the effects of any charges. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, speaking on NBC's "Meet the Press," compared the leak investigation with the case of Martha Stewart, "where they couldn't find a crime and they indict on something that she said about something that wasn't a crime."

Bush said several weeks ago that Fitzgerald had handled the case in "a very dignified way," making it more difficult for Republicans to portray him negatively. But allies of the White House have quietly been circulating talking points in recent days among Republicans sympathetic to the administration, seeking to help them make the case that bringing charges like perjury mean the prosecutor does not have a strong case, one Republican with close ties to the White House said Sunday. Other people sympathetic to Rove and Libby have said that indicting them would amount to criminalizing politics and that Fitzgerald does not understand how Washington works. <snip>

"I think we just need to stick to our knitting on the topics and the subjects the American people care about," Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kan., said on "Fox News Sunday." <snip>

http://www.startribune.com/stories/484/5685363.html

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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 10:13 PM
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1. If Hutchison's comments are a preview of the Talking Points
They are really desperate. I'm not sure how many republicans are willing to die for that mountain of BS.
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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 10:14 PM
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2. Yep. Fitz just doesn't
Edited on Sun Oct-23-05 10:15 PM by Jawja
understand how Washington works these days.

Special Prosecutors overturn every old rock in search of a crime possibly committed by sitting Democratic Presidents and don't stop until one is found and it has to be related to sex; Republicans are just playing hard ball politics when they commit treason by outing an uncover CIA operation and jeopardize national security. To attempt to hold them accountable to the RULE OF LAW is simply the "criminalization of politics."

More BULLSHIT from the RNC. :eyes:
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joemurphy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 10:18 PM
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3. Kay Bailey Hutchison isn't one of Republicanism's brightest
bulbs, is she. Texans, you have my deepest sympathy
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 10:31 PM
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11. This Texan appreciates your kindness. She is a lying crook who
doesn't think for herself.
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Nashyra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 10:18 PM
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4. Just like perjury was no big deal for Clinton
Hey if perjury was good enough to impeach, then it is certainly a good enough reason to indict.

Every last nasty BS crap thing they said about Clinton should be repeated verbatim and applied to the scum.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 10:20 PM
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5. So she's admitting, Martha Stewart
went to jail on republicans' bogus charge?
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tulsakatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 10:22 PM
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6. stick to topics the American people care about?
We care about this topic!!! We want to know if our political leaders are just plain stupid or if they're crooks!!

I was watching Kay Bailey Hutchison on MTP and she was going on and on about how, even if there are indictments, we shouldn't be too hard on these people. And it was almost as if she was saying.........don't be so hard on us even if we are guilty. As if they can't take the heat.

You wanna know what I think? These guys didn't seem to have a problem when they were conducting their criminal behavior and cooking up their fairy tales about Iraq's WMDs!! I think they deserve everything they get now...........and more!!!

I didn't hear any Republicans saying let's take it easy on him when they were prosecuting Clinton...........and all he did was get a BJ in the Oval office!! There really is no comparison between this and what Clinton did.And yet these same people were out for blood when it came to Clinton.

Anyway, back to KBH, after I saw that interview, I thought...........she thinks they're going down. That's why she's saying we shouldn't be so hard on them.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 10:33 PM
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12. !
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 10:24 PM
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7. Did you see the "criminalizing of politics" montage that Olberman
did, either Tursday or Friday. Hysterically funny, and yet a very good illustration of how the pukes just parrot things. Unfortunately the parroting does work sometimes, but seeing it all together I thought was a good counter to it, especially because Keith was really making fun of it.
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tulsakatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 10:27 PM
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8. I think that was on Maher's show..........
.........but I know what you mean, he made a good point.

These people repeat the same words over and over because they know if people hear it enough, they might believe it.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 10:29 PM
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9. Not the freepers and the reichwingers...
There is no wagon circle for Dubya.
The chickenhawks are running for cover.
Seems no one likes this loser...
(and they certainly don't want any slime to rub off)


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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:08 PM
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14. Exactly! The old "wagon circle" is getting mighty small... n/t
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 10:31 PM
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10. Fitzmas will make their denial shallow.
Edited on Sun Oct-23-05 10:31 PM by AtomicKitten
Seriously. They're only fooling themselves. This self-righteous BS isn't going to float except with the dimwitted and rabid partisans. Just ignore 'em.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:13 AM
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17. Their denials would be shallow
If those denials are remembered after October 25, and if their past is any indication of their future behavior, the bloviators on the right will simply deny whatever they said. Even presented with taped evidence that they said what they said, they'll insist that the conversation has "moved on," and that their delusional objections are now "old news."

Of course, if all else fails, there's always another terror alert to be issued.
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 10:34 PM
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13. "subjects the American people care about..."
This American, and most of my American friends, co-workers and relatives, want to know why these lying, war-mongering bastards are still running this country and not in jail.

It's a subject we care about. In fact, it's the subject we care about above all other subjects.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:00 AM
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15. They circled the wagons and then shot each other. heh n/t
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:03 AM
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16. I can't WAIT for Keith Olbermann to get hold of the Kay Hutchinson
contradictions--hope he's got lots of footage so he can do a "then, and now" presentation!!
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discopants Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:25 AM
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18. I thought the wheels have flown off the wagon??!!
Ha!
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:54 AM
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19. Hilarious. Perjury and obstruction of justice aren't crimes for Repukes
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