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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 10:04 PM
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Be sure to tell your friends...
I was at the hair salon this week and the stylist (in her 20s) said something negative about Bush and "three more years". We almost never discuss politics. But I took a chance and said "some of his cabal may be gone soon" thinking that she would say, "no kidding!" Instead, I was surprised that she said, "oh, you mean that guy in Texas?" (DeLay) and had not heard anything about the Plame investigations and the indictments. She seemed interested in hearing so I tried to give her the shorthand version and I noticed the guy at the front desk was also listening and both of them seemed to like hearing that justice may be catching up with * and friends. The point of all this is it was a reminder to me that a lot of people aren't paying much attention to the news about Fitzgerald, and that if people are interested, it's good to spread the word.

It also means that the poll #s for Bush are more favorable than they should be!
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GrantDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 10:06 PM
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1. It is interesting
how un-informed most people are. Most people aren't political junkies and get their info from snippets and sound-bites.

Inform the masses..
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 10:07 PM
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2. I had a 90 min massage today and told my Therapist everything she ever
wanted and needed to know about the outing of Valerie Plame, the White House Iraq Group, Downing Street Memos, Fitzgerald etc.

Needless to say, it was cathartic to tell the details and she was very interested in learning more...

Definitely spread the word....
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 10:11 PM
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3. I think you're right/ Especially with the young 18/35 group.
There are very few young people who even bother listening to any news at all! They hear grumblings at work and depending on who they work with, they hear that slanted side.

I know my son, age 34, doesn't listen to any TV at all. What he hears is from the guys at work. Thank God most of his friends know the truth. They send him links to sites that prove what they're saying.

I'm sure if he worked at a place with all RW nuts, he may have a very different view!
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 10:50 PM
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4. You're right. I was shocked when my 35 yr old nephew, who has
been to the war and may have to go again, said "what are you talking about" when I mentioned the impending indictments. Neither he nor his wife watch or read any news at all, but you would think a guy who went to the war and may go again would be just a little interested in what the Hell they went there for. Needless to say I was very disappointed in him and have since sent him articles on the subject, which I know he just deletes. AAARRRGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 10:59 PM
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5. Well, these replies have been eye-opening
It's amazing that someone who's been to Iraq doesn't read and think about politics.

I did not think about whether it might be age-related. And I half-hoped that maybe it was just a fluke experience. But sounds as though it was not.
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:08 PM
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6.  In my nephew/his wife's case,
neither one has ever been interested in politics and their attention span is about a minute and a half. If you can't explain something to them in a nano-second, or in a single sentence, their eyes glaze over and they just zone out, and, you know what? I think I was the same way at their age. There is just so much going on you have to read way too much to really keep up, and they both have jobs, kids and are just too busy, so I give them a pass and just sigh.
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:16 PM
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7. My 29yr old daughter....
Is the same way...but, as you said, so much on her plate, kids, a job, etc...the way I explained it to her was this...anything that happens in DC...affects YOUR life, and that of YOUR children...So it IS important for YOU to know, and be aware of what's going on...did it matter? Yes, to the point that she now understands what I was saying..We CAN'T give them a pass, perhaps our parents did when we were that age, and perhaps that's what's wrong now..it's too important that they are informed...when they are 65, and find they have nothing to live on, or even now, lose their job, and don't understand why, is too late to try explaining what caused it...they have to be prepared for anything, and the only way that happens, is if we keep beating our heads against the wall, until it does..
windbreeze
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:29 PM
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8. I agree with you. I don't expect everyone to spend hours on
Edited on Wed Oct-19-05 11:29 PM by spooky3
these stories, but even most people with kids and demanding jobs spend a lot of time watching TV. If they know about Tom & Katie, NASCAR, the World Series possibilities, Desperate Housewives or who's doing well in the NFL this year, and if they remember paying attention to Bill & Monica, then they have time to get a little bit informed about the events of the day.

Everyone knew about Watergate while it was being investigated.



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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:47 PM
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10. Actually, they are both smart as whips; just bought a very nice
house in So CA, and still manage to put away almost a $1,000 a month because they are aware of what will happen when they get ready to retire. He only has 4 yrs to go as a Marine and he can retire with a decent pension (nothing spectacular) and she works for Kaiser. I'm really rather proud of them for what they have done and what they are doing, but I just haven't found a way to get them involved in politics - I keep hammering at them and I'm sure they whisper to each other "don't mention anything political" before I visit, and I'm just hoping Fitzgerald is the one person who can make people pay attention when he presents his case, and I think that will open a lot of eyes and interests. I should also add that everyone else in the family are Republicans so I am only one voice in this wilderness.
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:41 PM
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9. 18/35
my hairdresser is 26. she said she doesn't think people her age should vote -- that they don't know enough.

the kids today are different. i was married at 18, had a child at 19. was divorced by 26. back in 1960 when i was 19 i couldn't vote -- the age voting age was 21. i was so upset because i so badly wanted to vote for JFK. as soon as i was 21 couldn't wait to get to the poll and cast my first vote.

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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:57 PM
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11. I had a friend call me, dancing a jig re:Tom Delay. But when I mentioned
Edited on Thu Oct-20-05 12:56 AM by chalky
hot-tub being just the hor d'oeuvre, she was clueless.

Which reminds me--anyone got a link to an article I can send her that sums up the WHIGs/Plame connection?

eta: Never mind. I just whipped up a brief history of Plamegate for her, complete with DU provided links. God I love this site!

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