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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 06:56 PM
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Salon: Did Bush lie about Rove -- or did Rove lie to him?
http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room//index.html

Why does Scott McClellan feel so compelled to discredit today's report that George W. Bush knew in the fall of 2003 that Karl Rove had a hand in leaking Valerie Plame's identity?

Over at AMERICAblog, John Aravosis has sleuthed out two good reasons: If the report is true, Bush may have lied. And if the report is true, Bush may have lied.

The New York Daily News says that Bush and Rove had discussions about Rove's involvement in the Plame case "beginning shortly after the Justice Department informed the White House in September 2003 that a criminal investigation had been launched into the leak." If that's true, then Bush may have been telling something less than the full truth during a Cabinet meeting on Oct. 7, 2003, when he told reporters that he didn't know who leaked Valerie Plame's identity. "I mean this town is a -- is a town full of people who like to leak information," Bush said then. "And I don't know if we're going to find out the senior administration official . Now, this is a large administration, and there's a lot of senior officials. I don't have any idea. I'd like to. I want to know the truth. That's why I've instructed this staff of mine to cooperate fully with the investigators -- full disclosure, everything we know the investigators will find out. I have no idea whether we'll find out who the leaker is."

Of course, the Bush-Rove conversations that the Daily News alleges occurred may not have happened by Oct. 7, 2003. But if they happened, they happened long before Bush sat down for an interview with special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald in June 2004 -- an interview in which Murray Waas' sources say Bush insisted that Rove had assured him that he wasn't involved in outing Plame. If the Daily News is right, Bush lied to Fitzgerald. If the Daily News is wrong, Rove lied to Bush. Unless we're missing something, Mr. President, those are the only possibilities. Which is it?
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 07:02 PM
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1. Bush is a liar and Bush is a liar.
n/t
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 07:11 PM
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2. Yep. "You say potato, I say potato, you say tomato, I say tomato..."
..."potato, potato, tomato, tomato, let's call the whole thing off"...

with an IMPEACHMENT.

:evilgrin:
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 08:27 PM
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3. did bush lie about rove? what a silly question to ask about a natural born
liar. BUSH LIED!
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 08:30 PM
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4. Watch a video of * saying those 16 words in the state of the onion
Then think to yourself this is what he looks like when he lies.

Now, how does he look different any other time?

He don't, no no no, he always looks like the liar he is.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 08:41 PM
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5. This also explains why they had to turn off all spin and all discussion
of this topic in any way shape or form. Half the White House was already compromised. I also think that is why they went so heavily into "scripted events" at this time - They could NOT AFFORD to be asked an embarrassing question.
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