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dubyaD40web Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:18 PM
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Rove's mother commited suicide in 1981?
I was just reading this thread:

KKKarl Rover's role in Watergate
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

And went to the link and read a little more about Rove. Here's what else is said:

Adoption, divorce, and suicide
Rove learned at age nineteen, during his parents' divorce, that the man who raised him, a mineral geologist, was not his biological father. Rove has expressed great love and admiration for his adoptive father and for "how selfless" his love had been. Rove's mother committed suicide in Reno, Nevada, in 1981 (New Yorker profile <7>).
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BigDaddy777/Karl_Rove

As much as I dislike the guy, that is sad.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:20 PM
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1. Yes -- gives an insight into why he's so sick. n/t
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 02:09 PM
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18. Let's not got there. Isn't it enough to stick to his crimes instead of
dredging up his personal sad life?
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 02:35 PM
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21. His attacks are so viciously personal --
--that finding his own image now in the mirror was bound to happen.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:00 PM
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24. You have no idea what drives a person to suicide --
And a suicide in someone's family - including Karl Rove - is a cruel, sick thing to mock. Obviously, you've never lost a loved on to suicide.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:15 PM
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26. There is no mocking intention in my statement
I'll take responsibility for not expressing myself clearly enough and will clarify my intention in the statement.

If my father had deserted me, and my mother had committed suicide, that would really, I suspect, wreak havoc on my emotional and psychological life, and in all likelihood would drive me to all sorts of anti-social behavior, and perhaps even criminal behavior.

This is what I meant by my statement, not what you concluded.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 04:49 PM
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29. Not neccessarily --
Some people are strengthened by such personal tragedies and overcome the odds to do great things with their lives.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 05:16 PM
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30. I agree, but I don't think this is the case with Rove. n/t
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:21 PM
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2. Wouldn't you love to know who is bio-dad is. That would help too
evil may be genetic.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:21 PM
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3. Some suicides aren't always really suicides
Rove may well just be a bad seed.
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:26 PM
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6. I couldn't keep my mind from wandering in that same direction, valerief.
:tinfoilhat:

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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:33 PM
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9. How did Damian kill his mother in the "Omen"?
Was he riding the trike upstairs while she was changing a light bulb?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:34 PM
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10. Hey hey hey come on!!! lets be fair about these comparisons
Edited on Wed Oct-19-05 01:35 PM by underpants
Damian didn't wear glasses
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:46 PM
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14. You're right and Karl rides Scooter, I mean a scooter.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:07 PM
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25. Well, he's gotta ride Scooter better than Chimpy did



But I thought KKKarl was riding JimmyJeff?
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:54 PM
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15. LOL. I can't f'ing believe I'm laughing at this. n/t
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:58 PM
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16. Hitler's one possible personal murder was cousin he slept with
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:27 PM
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7. The first time I read those two things I thought the same
At this point nothing would suprise me about him.
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koopie57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:23 PM
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4. yes, it is very sad and explains
so much of why he is so mean, but that is a very good reason why he should not have such a powerful position. The man is very sick.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:24 PM
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5. yep, I said on here once before that when his father saw...
what he created he ran off and his mother killed herself.
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:29 PM
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8. Karl and George,
Edited on Wed Oct-19-05 01:31 PM by musette_sf
and their mentally deficient mothers. Karl's mom a suicidal mess, and George's mom, in addition to every other awful truth about her, broke little George's heart after his beloved baby sister died. From all accounts, it was as if little Robin had ceased to exist after her death. Witness this account from Justin Frank, author of Bush On The Couch:

"Young George was 6 years old when his sister Robin, 3, was diagnosed with leukemia in the spring of 1953, which set in motion a flurry of extended trips his parents took with her in search of treatment. Yet, while George was close to his sister, they never told him of her illness or the reason for their absences. Instead, on the occasions she was home, he was told not to play with her.

Robin died in New York in October 1953; her parents spent the next day golfing in Rye, attending a small memorial service the following day before flying back to Texas. George learned of his sister's illness only after her death, when his parents returned to Texas, where the family remained while the child's body was buried in a Connecticut family plot. There was no funeral."

Sick, sick, sick. I can only feel sorrow for these young men. It is a sin (and I rarely use that word) that their families cared more about how things looked, than how its children's hearts and souls fared through sadness, loss and grief. This sick family infrastructure more than explains how they turned into vicious animals.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:39 PM
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11. They played golf the day after her death and no funeral was held for her?
Good lord, that it just damn cold. :(
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:40 PM
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12. but you're not surprised
are you?
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:45 PM
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13. No, I suppose I'm not. I'm shocked, but not surprised. :( n/t
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 04:29 PM
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28. I'm shocked and surprised
because I would expect them to follow normal American norms and customs - to not have a funeral for a person who died is extreme. These customs actually help people get past the horror of the situation, painful as being at the funeral would be. It may be they had something small and private and just them (possibly with a minister). How would anyone know? Even if true, it may be that they simply couldn't deal with it. (The golfing is harder to picture)
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:59 PM
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17. And yet there are different ways that people react to that kind of
background.

Some direct the hidden sickness outwardly and seem to have no empathy or moral compass.

Others develop more empathy in reaction to their own pain, and do not take it out on others.

Everyone is still responsible for their actions, society must hold them accountable.
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 02:10 PM
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19. oh, I completely agree!
It's just so completely disgusting to me that the family infrastructures of these two monsters did nothing but encourage their complete lack of morality.
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 08:18 PM
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36. Yes true, and then again it is often a repeating cycle of abuse.
Chances are there was stuff in their own past that led them to be such crappy parents.

The cycle has to stop somewhere.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 02:12 PM
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20. Talk about Sympathy for the Devil
Edited on Wed Oct-19-05 02:13 PM by tasteblind
Seriously, cry me a river.

:nopity:
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CdnObserver Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 02:39 PM
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22. I'll admit that my first thought was that she was "suicided"

Now, I'm wondering who his biological Father was.

Has anyone ever seen Rove with his shoes off? What's the chance he's got cloven hooves?

Or did his Father meet an untimely end during or in the aftermath of WWII?


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CdnObserver Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 02:45 PM
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23. He was also already up to dirty politics at 19, and snuck into a Dem HQ

FUCK THIS GUY!

Too bad he didn't benefit or learn from any of his adopted Dad's selfless love.

From the Wiki:

In 1970, Rove used a false identity to enter the campaign office of Illinois Democrat Alan Dixon and stole some letterhead, which he used to print fake campaign rally fliers promising "free beer, free food, girls and a good time for nothing," and distributed them at rock concerts and homeless shelters. Rove admitted the incident later, saying "It was a youthful prank at the age of 19 and I regret it." (The Washington Post, 7/23/99).
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Obamarama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:19 PM
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27. If Karl was your offspring, wouldn't you commit suicide too?
God...to know that's what you gave life to would be too much for me to bear. Karl Rove: A man even a mother couldn't love.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 05:18 PM
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31. It explains a lot about what's WRONG with him.
Two dysfunctional whackjobs attracted to one another...George & Karl, the Toxic Twins.
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 05:25 PM
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32. If I were his mother, I might do the same. nt
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montana500 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 06:41 PM
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33. This thread is in poor taste. nm
nm
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 06:43 PM
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34. It'll come ou that he was molested, you watch
he'll try to get off on insanity plea. LOL.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 06:52 PM
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35. You people can't be happy -- have you no life, no ANYTHING
all you can do is be the voyeristic losers that you are, link DU threads and cream over us.

Can't you find something else to do?

Plant a fucking tree. Draw a painting. Write a poem.

This DU obsession can not be healthy.

:hi: Bijou.

See -- wer'e not so bad. We want to help. Really we do.
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