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Michigander4Dean Donating Member (588 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:16 PM
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Politics1 says Gore will NOT run.
Edited on Fri Sep-30-05 12:17 PM by Michigander4Dean
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:18 PM
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1. He'll do something, then
Secretary of State? Ambassador to the UN? We cannot let that talent go to waste...
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Michigander4Dean Donating Member (588 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:19 PM
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3. I hope so
The guy is amazing!
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oldtime dfl_er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:18 PM
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2. At least he had the decency to tell us
But i'm kind of crushed about it.

http://www.cafepress.com/scarebaby/724561
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:20 PM
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4. Yes. He said this many, many months ago. nt
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:21 PM
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5. Politics1 is wrong about that "liberal television network" thing
(CurrentTV is not a liberal network), so perhaps they're wrong about the rest of it, too.
;)
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:21 PM
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6. If true, then it looks like I won't be voting Dem for Prez in 2008 for the
first time in my life.

I'm not enthralled with the crop of potential candidates touted for 2008.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:23 PM
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7. A lot can happen in three years.
;-)
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:28 PM
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11. So lets keep the status quo then.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:42 PM
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12. What a load of crap. You don't know who is running in 2008. First 2006!
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:45 PM
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13. I have a pretty good idea who is
I won't be voting for any of the pro-war Dems, that's for sure.
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 01:43 PM
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28. So you will make a defacto vote for the really REALLY pro-war GOP.
Thanks.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 03:55 PM
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34. No, I won't vote Repuke
I'll either write in a name or vote Green Party.

I live in a blue state anyway, so my non-Dem vote is not a defacto vote for a Repuke.

BTW, I'm not voting for Repuke favored Sen. Lieberman in 2006. I'll probably write in a name.
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drummo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 06:23 AM
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47. And Gore was pro-war, right?
He was against it long before it was cool.
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 06:43 PM
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38. .
:eyes:
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jfern Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 04:36 AM
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41. Bad idea
Any Democrat is better than President Allen.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 05:14 PM
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45. Hey, Lark, don't give up!
Lotsa time between now and 2008. We have got to hope for a better world. This is a bad time, I know. But we'll come back (if the war, Avian flu, global warming, whatever) doesn't kill us all.

I'm pretty depressed now. But I hope that a new, bright leader will emerge and we can come back stronger than ever before and will have an era of prosperity, peace, and prochoice.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:24 PM
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8. The two that we need most out of that list,
Edited on Fri Sep-30-05 12:25 PM by rateyes
are listed as not running--Dean and Gore. I still hope we can persuade at least one of them to change his mind. The best of the rest, and someone I could support whole-heartedly is Clark. I think a Gore/Clark ticket would be fantastic. Absent that, a Clark/Cleland ticket or a Clark/Boxer ticket sounds good to me.
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election_2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:45 PM
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14. How about Clark/Feingold?
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 02:09 PM
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31. Yeah, that works, too...
I didn't like Feingold's vote for Roberts, but I'm not throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:24 PM
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9. crap eom
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:27 PM
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10. It says Tweety said Gore told him he wouldn't run...
Edited on Fri Sep-30-05 12:31 PM by ms liberty
But I don't see a link to Tweety there. This would not be the first time people were wrong. There is a lot of jockeying going on already, and this could be disinformation. It could also be just plain old wrong. Until I hear Al Gore say it definitively, like he did for the 04 race, I will keep an open mind. He's who we need, he's who I really want.

edited to add: It says he said it in March 05...that's a little early to take anyone at their word on a presidential race. In March 05 he was promoting his new network. Naturally he wanted to talk about it, not about a race that was about 3 1/2 years away!
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:46 PM
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15. all old news . . . and it doesn't mean he can't change his mind . . .
or be convinced that his country needs him . . .
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election_2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:47 PM
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16. Gore should start an ICGCC
Gore should take a proactive role by starting an International Coalition on Global Climate Change...because there's nothing currently in existence that has any real teeth.

Why wait around for 2008?
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 07:24 AM
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55. Great idea !
Much like Edwards' work with the Poverty Center?
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:52 PM
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17. Gore's campaign was horrible
he should have beat Bush, and yes, I know if it wasn't for Florida, blah blah blah

you know what--he shouldn't have needed Florida--he should have been able to carry at least one of the southern states that Clinton did without too much trouble

he picked what had to be the worst VP candidate in modern history

he ran one of the worst campaigns in recent memory

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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 01:25 PM
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22. Psssttt...he did beat Bush by half a million votes!! NT
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 01:26 PM
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23. and remember since we have the Electorial College
how many votes one gets for president doesn't mean anything

he lost where it counted

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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 01:30 PM
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25. psssst,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Gore won Florida too.
Remember that whole SCOTUS selecting the President thing.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 01:59 PM
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30. blah blah blah
what about Arkansas, West Virginia, his home state of Tennessee, Louisiana?

those were states, may not Tennessee, that Clinton had won and Gore lost

no Republican had won West Virginia since 1980.

Dukakis won West Virginia! If he could do it, why couldn't Gore

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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 02:35 PM
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32. That was then, this is now. Gore may not have run the most successful
campaign that's true, part of the fault lies squarely with the media's portrayal of him. Since the coup took place however, Gore has emerged as a strong, clear, progressive voice, not afraid to call out the criminals on their actions. I think he could go a long way to reversing some of the destructive policies this corrupt Bush administration has inflicted on the American people. This is a tired arguement, saying that the Gore of 2000 was a loser. HE WON, regardless of whether or not he carried West Virginia. It's my understanding that this website was founded as a response to the outcry over the presidency being stolen from Al Gore. Not sure why you assume people don't change and that they should be judged forever for mistakes they've made in the past if they clearly have shown their efforts to do things differently.
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jfern Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 04:38 AM
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42. So if home states are so important
Did you know that President Humphrey and Vice President Muskie won all 4 of their and Nixon / Agnew's home states. Good thing that Humphrey / Muskie won.
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drummo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 06:33 AM
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48. Where were you in 2000?
Any state in the South?? Clinton had a 30% or worse favorable rating in red states. He lost in every poll to Bush except in one in Oct, taken by ABC, Even that was within the margin of error. Clinton would have ended up in a close race just as Gore did.
Every poll showed in 2000 that swing-voters were fed up with Clinton and his administration. But you say that Gore, who was JUST vice-president, should have won easily?

Then explain to me why was Clinton behind Bush in 2000 as an incumbent president after 8 years of economic boom?

Blowjob and lies. Those are the answers. And you cannot blame Gore for that.

He ran a very reasonable campaign, considering the circumstances. There's no evidence that any Democrat, let alone someone linked to Clinton, could have done better.

Moreover, if just 1000 of Palm Beach voters hadn't been blind Gore would be in the White House today and your claim that he ran a bad campaign wouldn't hold any water.

You say Clinton won some states in the South. Yes in 1992 and 1996. But it was 2000! After Monica, after the lies, after impeachment. And based in the polls and exit polls Clinton would have lost the South in 2000 even more than Gore did.
There are quite a few cultural conservative over there, you know?
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 01:30 PM
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26. Kerry's was worse. Gore won the popular vote. Kerry did not
And as Jimmy Carter recently said, Gore won the 2000 election and should have been our president.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 04:39 AM
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43. You might want to read the Election 2004 Results and Discussion forum
before you post that anymore.

How many times am I going to have to remind DUers to do that? How? Many? Times?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 01:48 PM
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 05:40 PM
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37. Gore had other Democrats sabatoging his campaign.
With Dems like Lieberman (and others).....who needs enemies?
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:57 PM
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18. I do not blame him
No one said a word when he was cheated out of the presidency.
Why should he put his neck out yet one more time?
Our loss. We do not deserve him.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 01:06 PM
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19. This doesn't look like the most credible source.
Edited on Fri Sep-30-05 01:09 PM by BullGooseLoony
It's second-hand reporting with an opinion worked in. And it's poorly written.

It's the kind of thing one would see on a message board. I wouldn't take it too seriously.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 01:15 PM
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20. Gore himself has said that he will not run
I do not understand why some of his supporters believe that the is a liar.
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 05:07 PM
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35. Huh? No one said he was a liar
Candidates change their mind all the time---you know that. Or is this another one of your posts that damn dems with faint praise?
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 04:35 PM
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44. He was pretty empathic that he was not going to run
If you remember when he launched Current TV, he stated that he enjoyed being a non-politician because he could speak his mind without fear of political repercussions.
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drummo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 06:40 AM
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53. Yeah and how do those statements prove that he will not run in 2008?
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drummo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 06:35 AM
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49. Wrong. He never said that.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 01:24 PM
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21. And I should believe this site why???
It's silly...
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 01:28 PM
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24. On the Sept 26 Morning Sedition show, Mark Martin asked Rob Reich
if Gore would run in 2008. Mark was referring to Ostroy's report Al Gore could be our Next Presidenthttp://ostroyreport.blogspot.com/2005/09/al-gore-could-...

Reich did not validate or deny that Gore could be in the 2008 Prez mix.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 01:39 PM
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27. No one but Gore can do that.
So we'll just have to wait. :shrug:
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 02:39 PM
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33. This is what he has said all along.
Doesn't mean there are not folks hoping he will change his mind.
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drummo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 06:37 AM
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50. False, he never said it.
Gimme a quote from a reliable source where Gore says in black-white terms I will no run for president in 2008.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 05:20 PM
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36. Chirs Matthews is a liar, Gore never made a definitive statement
Edited on Fri Sep-30-05 05:22 PM by Uncle Joe
to that effect and if he did, it would not be to Chris Matthews.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:56 PM
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39. I would like to have Gore. He does need acting lessons though.
Smart man with a level head.
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drummo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 06:37 AM
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51. Oh please no!!! No more actor!
We had that with Reagan and Clinton and now with Bush.
Phonies!
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 01:03 AM
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40. Just 2 words: Richard Nixon.
A few more: "You won't have Dick Nixon to kick around anymore."

8 years is not a long time - in fact it's just about right.
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leanin_green Donating Member (823 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 07:13 PM
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46. Yep, it could possibly be history repeating itself in Democratic garb.
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drummo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 06:39 AM
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52. Bullshit. Chris Matthews' unnamed source
is not a source.
Second, Current it not a liberal TV network.
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win_in_06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 06:41 AM
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54. At this stage in the game doesn't no really mean yes?
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