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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 05:55 PM
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This is as big as a Presidential impeachment.
Just to keep it in perspective.

Remember '98? How elated the Reeps were that they were going to take down Clinton? Of course it wasn't at all popular, and it was seen as being extra-legal and purely political, and of course a Dem was merely going to step in to assume the office if they'd managed to convict in the Senate.

But in '98, they were partyin' like it was 1999.

We should be partying today. We should hoot 'n hollar and enjoy. The leader of a house of Congress was indicted, and had to step aside from his post.

The work begins tomorrow, but tonight, enjoy.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 05:58 PM
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1. Congressman Tom Delay. Ooh, man that feels good!
Let me say it again - Congressman Tom Delay. Congressman Tom Delay. Congressman Tom Delay. Congressman Tom Delay.

He's no longer the senate majority leader! :woohoo: :woohoo:
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Singular73 Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 06:18 PM
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8. He never was lol
He is in the house of reps, not the Senate :)
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 07:16 PM
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18. Whatever, it still feels good saying that!
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Singular73 Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 06:18 PM
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9. He never was lol
He is in the house of reps, not the Senate :)
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betterdeadthanred Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 05:58 PM
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2. Karma
You just gotta love it.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 05:59 PM
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3. I was happy for ten minutes. That's all it deserves.
The damage done is so enormous, it will be our lifetimes, and the lifetimes of our children to undo.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 06:03 PM
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4. I won't party until Delay, Frist, Santorum, Bush, Cheney,
Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, and Rice are bitches for some overly tattooed lifers in prison.

I keep thinking about why the Democrats in Congress are so inert. Fear of being Wellstoned? Anthraxed? Such threats can extend beyond Congress to judges.

Don't tell me I'm being crazy. Think of what this administration has done to its citizens so far.

But, I must admit, the indictment did make me smile.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 06:06 PM
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5. Aw, come on. We haven't had a victory like this in years.
Edited on Wed Sep-28-05 06:20 PM by bunkerbuster1
This is, as William Shatner might've hawked, big. Really big.

It'll refocus attention on the horrendous redistricting in Texas and why these rats felt they needed to do that. It'll remind everyone in America just how dirty these guys are.

Yeah, it's just a step, but tonight, if you're inclined to indulge in recreational intoxication and/or gratuitous sex I say go for it!
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 06:16 PM
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6. Now that idea made me REALLY smile!
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 06:19 PM
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10. if fear of being wellstoned is their excuse
then i hope they're all shot when law'n'order's restored, clinton included! i know it's easy for a nobody in cyberland to advise courage, but one would think, if the country's in danger, it would be a given...the denouncers of bush and his criminality would be lined up to do so, even if bush had them all killed! therefore, cowardice can't be it. it's the same thing that hamstrung bill clinton during his presidency (where it was clear our guys were ALWAYS pulling their punches!)...that is: bush and the gopigs are blackmailing the ruling class of usa (beside terrorising anyone who sticks out too much, notice for example, mike moore has gone 'undercover') the blackmail is economic, to wit: if bushinc is brought down, information will be released that will cause collapse of economy and street violence/bloodshed(?)

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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 06:33 PM
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15. But if the Dems take power
Won't they then have the power to suppress information from being released that would collapse the economy?

The media are whores for the power brokers.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 08:39 PM
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20. the point is that the economy can't collapse
if it does, the resulting horror would astonish even sci fi types.....civilization is a hard won state of affairs (notice how many monsters are around even when things are not too bad!)....once legality is ignored (witness bosnia herzogovina -mass murder of multi generational neighbors by their neighbors very quickly became routine!) then chaos must result, and if the vast majority of people are scared now, enough to vote for a reagan or bush, much less when gangs of suburban cannibals are buying homeless kids for food in the middle of town etc!!....the average citizen in a modern society is only days away from dying of thirst, weeks from hunger (supplying water and food to a population requires civilization, once it breaks down ...(?)) therefore, the gopigs can use this apocalyptic threat to prevent the dems from trying to punish them (which explains why the dems remain so quiet when the gopigs literally deliver themselves up on a platter...)
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 06:16 PM
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7. Enlighten me
where WAS he in the line to the presidency?

Sorry I am ignorant. I should know.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 06:21 PM
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11. I know the first 3... not sure after that...
2. Cheney
3. Hastert the Bastard
4. Senator Ted Stevens

Sooo... would he have been right after Stevens?
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DerBeppo Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 07:51 PM
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19. He wasn't in line
* The Vice President Richard Cheney
* Speaker of the House John Dennis Hastert
* President pro tempore of the Senate Ted Stevens
* Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice
* Secretary of the Treasury John Snow
* Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld
* Attorney General Alberto Gonzales
* Secretary of the Interior Gale A. Norton
* Secretary of Agriculture Mike Johanns
* Secretary of Commerce Carlos Gutierrez
* Secretary of Labor Elaine Chao
* Secretary of Health and Human Services Mike Leavitt
* Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Alphonso Jackson
* Secretary of Transportation Norman Yoshio Mineta
* Secretary of Energy Samuel Bodman
* Secretary of Education Margaret Spellings
* Secretary of Veterans Affairs Jim Nicholson
* Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 06:22 PM
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12. self delete
Edited on Wed Sep-28-05 06:23 PM by bunkerbuster1
totally misunderstood the nature of your enquiry...
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 06:24 PM
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14. It's because
I couldn't spell succession...seccession...susexion
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Lancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 06:23 PM
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13. He wasn't in the line of succession (thank God)
but Hastert, as Speaker of the House, is third. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
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desi826 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 06:37 PM
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16. I want the Rove Indictment
This was a drop in the bucket to me.
Nothing.
Repubs will find a way to turn this around, or Dems will screw it up.

But the indictment I'm gonna dance for if it happens, is Karl Rove.

The man responsible for destroying this country as we know it.

I REALLY want to see him indicted so badly.
But with this indictment, Bush may just take Fitzgerald out of his job now, no matter how scared or partisan it makes him look to shut the whole thing down, to protect Rove.

But, if by some miracle, that doesn't happen and that grand jury comes back with an indictment, I am going to get rip roaring drunk...ah I mean, tipsy. :)
Des
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 07:04 PM
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17. Happy Dance Starts Today!
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corbett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 08:53 PM
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21. Lovely Sentiment!
Here's the first thing everyone should do before the hangover sets in:

https://www.dccc.org/campaignforchange/petitions/petiti...
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 08:55 PM
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22. Hell yes! It feels like someone pulled the first nail from my coffin!
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 08:57 PM
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23. Tomorrow: Their throats. Period.
Fuck mercy.

Mac
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 09:08 PM
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24. The quality of mercy is not strain'd;
The quality of mercy is not strain'd;
It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven
Upon the place beneath. It is twice blest:
It blesseth him that gives and him that takes.
'Tis mightiest in the mightiest; it becomes
The throned monarch better than his crown;


I'd settle for merciful Justice.

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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 09:41 PM
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25. "Merchant of Venice", Act 4, Scene 1, Portia's speech.
Well, and good. But Shakespeare's MOV carries it's own important caveat: "The devil can cite scripture for his own purpose." That happens to be a theme in Luke, too. But, the words you quote are words to live by. Thanks ML.


Mac
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