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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:28 PM
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Always remember and never forget that Tom Delay...
was not indicted by Ronnie Earle, he was indicted by the Travis County Grand Jury.

They can scream "partisan witch hunt" all they want, but grand juries indict on EVIDENCE of a case.

If Earle went witch-hunting, he "got himself a witch."
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Seansky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:30 PM
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1. very good you pointed this out ...
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:34 PM
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2. How many people on a grand jury in Texas?
I think the number varies from state to state. I'd like to point out to freepers that "X number of Texans indicted DeLay, not the DA".
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:37 PM
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3. Texas has 12 members on the
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:43 PM
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4. Someone should mention that to Tweety.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:46 PM
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5. True. eom
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:51 PM
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6. After mentioning it
It might be a good idea to tap him gently on the head with a shovel to make sure he got the message.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:30 PM
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8. Gently, hell....
:o
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Stockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:51 PM
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7. Good point, needs to be repeated over and over again
nominated
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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:32 PM
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9. But don't forget....there is also...
an old saying about how it is very easy for prosectors to get indictments...I've tried to find it, but can't...will still look..

might be something about ham sandwiches.....
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:37 PM
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10. Yes, I know the saying...
"prosecutors can indict a ham sandwich," as if members of a grand jury are without brains. There are many "ham sandwiches" that prosecutors have tried to indict that grand juries refused to indict. The point being, you need to prove to a grand jury that you have a case that more than likely you can prove beyond a reasonable doubt. The GJ that brought indictment against DeLay has been sitting for how many months? Eighteen? Earle wants a conviction. He's got the proof. Now, all he needs is a trial or a plea bargain. I'll bet Tom DeLay pleads guilty to keep from going to jail for two years.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 05:24 PM
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15. Trent Lott must be reading DU. He just used that saying on TV.
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:39 PM
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11. Also, he has prosecuted 15 politicians in his career.
12 were Dems.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:44 PM
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12. Yep. I'll take bets on what happens...
What do you think.

1. The indictment gets thrown out because of a lack of evidence.
2. The case goes to trial, and DeLay is found innocent.
3. The case goes to trial, and Delay is convicted and sentenced.
4. DeLay accepts a plea bargain by pleading guilty to avoid jail time.
5. DeLay receives a presidential pardon.
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 05:14 PM
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13. I'm looking forward to #3.
But that would likely be followed by #5. #1,#2, and #4 are probably even odds.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 05:23 PM
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14. I'll bet that #4 is already a done deal...
Edited on Wed Sep-28-05 05:24 PM by rateyes
See this excellent post:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

On edit: Which, of course, does not rule out #5. All I can hope for in that regard is that * is impeached and removed from office before he remembers to pardon BugBoy.
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