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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:23 PM
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GOP Gay Ole Party
Edited on Wed Sep-28-05 01:47 PM by newsguyatl
they have...

a gay house majority leader...


a gay chairman of the national party...


a gay spokesman for the white house...


and soon to be gay supreme court justice...


what am i missing here? :freak:


seriously, this is too much.


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Neocondriac Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:24 PM
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1. hey !
"Any of you homos think about touching me ......I'll kill ya!" lol
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MemphisTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:55 PM
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8. Stripes is an absolute classic
:rofl:
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StaggerLee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:43 PM
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48. It is!
I've been meaning to get a copy of that movie. I must've watched it a hundred times as a kid.

"Lighten up Francis."

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kmla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:50 PM
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52. "Lighten up, Francis."
Gotta love Sgt. Hulka....
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:31 PM
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2. the sad thing is
they're all ANTI-GAY!

:banghead:
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:38 PM
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3. Spokesman for the White House?
Scotty McClellan is gay?!?!?!

Not that there's anything wrong with it!
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:40 PM
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4. very
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Riverman Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 01:20 AM
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69. He likes visting gay bars in Austin - does that make him gay or
just curious!
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:45 PM
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5. Roberts is gay?
I hadn't heard that. Is his marriage just for show, then?
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corbett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 08:22 PM
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66. That's My Guess
His wife looks like cold prune. My gaydar definitely twitched every time I watched him. He's as closeted as they come.
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:49 PM
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6. I'm up for an old-fashioned "outing" as anyone but really?
Drier I've seen proof on RawStory but the others? C'mon! A link or two please.
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:53 PM
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7. for starters
Edited on Wed Sep-28-05 01:54 PM by newsguyatl
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:08 PM
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19. Links to Nothing
The first link is to a Washington Blade article that doesnt back any of your claims.

The second link says that Mclellan knew Gannon and had been seen at a gay bar in 1995. It reported rumors, but specifically said that there was no proof Mclellan is gay.

The third is from a blog and looks like it is mostly intended to be a joke. At most, it is rank speculation about Roberts.

The fourth is more rank speculation that thinks that Roberts adopting children and marrying late are proof he is gay.


Those are links to nothing but rumors and jokes. They arent proof of anything. Just because you find a website that says, Roberts and gay on the same page, does not mean it is proof of anything. I can find links to websites that say that aliens built the pyramids. That doesnt MEAN anything. You provide a link to the New York Times running a picture of Roberts with his tongue down Scott Mclellans throat and Ill believe.
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:10 PM
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21. see message 11
it's for you too...


oh and while you're at it, 13.

:hi:
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:16 PM
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28. Is that supposed to MEAN anything??
"Lighten up"??

If you don't want a variety of reactions, don't post on a message board with a variety of members. I don't think it's that funny or light hearted. Sorry.
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:18 PM
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29. sorry you don't think it's funny
but this is a message board, with a variety of members and a variety of reactions. :hi:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:21 PM
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32. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:21 PM
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34. you got it
:hi:
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:21 PM
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33. dupe
Edited on Wed Sep-28-05 02:22 PM by renie408
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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:33 PM
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43. Just because Roberts was the original 40 year old virgin, it doesn't
him gay.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:37 AM
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68. Link!
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:55 PM
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9. Proof? Maybe that's what you are missing...
Can you prove any of that? I wouldn't doubt it, but until somebody can prove it, I can't get too excited about it, either.
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:57 PM
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11. lighten up.
if you wanna go "prove" someone's sexuality, go right ahead.

happy huntin.


in the meantime, i'm MORE than happy to spread the rumors about the rightwing hypocritical homophobes.
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:12 PM
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22. Are you gay?
I would like to get the opinion of a gay person. To me, this avid speculation about someone's sexual orientation for use as a weapon seems demeaning to gays. It is like Homophobia-by-Proxy. I get that it *might* upset those far right members of the GOP. But is it worth it to fight that dirty? I KNOW, I KNOW...they fight even dirtier. But that does not make it right. I don't care whose side they are on, someone's sexuality is their business.
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:18 PM
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31. why yes, yes i am.
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:25 PM
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36. Ok, so it doesn't bother you when people, no matter who they are
or for what reason, use homosexuality as a weapon? As if it is a BAD thing? That would bother me, I think, if I were gay.
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:26 PM
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37. when it comes to outing
rightwing hypocritical homophobes who work for the enemy?

absolutely not.

but perhaps you'd have to be gay to understand.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:31 PM
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40. I stand with you 100%....
out the fuckers, I say. :mad:
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:37 PM
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45. No
I think I can understand that it would make you bitter for 'one of your own' to be working for what you consider to be the enemy. But it still seems like a personal, private thing to me. It seems to me that giving it this kind of emphasis is belittling (there is a better word for this, but I can't think of it right now) to homosexuals somehow. And it is still low. I think we need to fight like Republicans in that we don't back off, not in that we sink to their level.

But that's just me.
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MadAsHellNewYorker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:29 PM
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39. I say its like outing Jews who worked for the Nazis...n/t
Edited on Wed Sep-28-05 02:30 PM by MadAsHellNewYorker
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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:31 PM
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41. It's the hypocrisy that bothers me most.
If I could out every duplicitous closet case in the GOP I would do it in a heartbeat.

Closeted gay republiCONS exploit bias and ignorance in order to profit financially and politically. This gay man thinks they're scum.
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:40 PM
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46. It doesn't bother US, dear. We KNOW it isn't a bad thing.

They think it is. It bothers them and them only. And it shouldn't.

It's a win-win.

Their position is an insult to us, pretending that homosexuality is this dirty thing to be ashamed of. It's their closettedness that makes the whole thing "shameful". If they want to be ashamed of it, they can be, though they've no reason to be. We will simply laugh at them. And that's all it is, laughter.

It's only a weapon against them if THEY LET IT be a weapon against them.

The ball's in their court. Either they drop the pretense and adopt sensible positions reagrding gay rights or they sit and suffer.
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:58 PM
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59. Now THAT I understand.
It is only a weapon if you are ashamed of it and if you are ashamed of it, you are an asshole. THAT I understand. It just seems to me that who a person has sex with is important only to the two of them.

In a weird way, it reminds me of the argument over whether Creation or Intelligent Design are true. What does it matter? It is irrelevent. Neither are science and therefore have no place in a science class.

To me, that is sort of the gay marriage thing. What does it matter that they are gay? They are consenting adults entering into a legally binding,legally recognized relationship. That they are of the same sex shouldn't interfere with their rights as citizens of this country.
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MadAsHellNewYorker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:03 PM
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60. and to spiral off your last point...
Edited on Wed Sep-28-05 03:04 PM by MadAsHellNewYorker
these are "gays" trying to take away their own rights and make themselves second class citizens. Imagine a Black person saying they don't deserve voting rights and should be considered 3/5ths of a person? its ludicrous. Thats what these guys are doing...and if the only way to get them out of power is to expose them, then thats the way it has to be.
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UDenver20 Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:54 PM
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56. Oh lord...
I'm a big old homo and I think its hilarious...

And we forgot that they have a gay prostitute/reporter, too
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:33 PM
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42. Dearest, take it from this old queen...

Thank you for your support.

BUT... the thing is, it's fine for us lefties to be gay because we're open and honest about it but it's NOT fine for them to be gay because they are all anti-gay and closetted and weird. It's not about sexual orientation, it's about truth or lies...

Us - honest gays
Them - dishonest faggots!

And it is they, THEY who draw the line. We simply dance up and down next to it pointing at it and laughing. They have themselves to blame, no-one else...

It isn't dirty if it's *us* doing it, darling, I know that seems unfair, but really THEY are the ones causing the enormous disparity. You couldn't insult ME by calling me gay, I'd just laugh. How then can I take someone else objecting to being called gay seriously?
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:36 PM
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44. there it is, folks
:yourock:
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:50 PM
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I am trying here...but
I dunno, it just feels...icky. Maybe I am the one being some kind of weird version of a homophobe because I think this subject should be off limits in an argument as a weapon. To me, it is..ahem...below the belt to drag personal stuff like this into a debate. If gays are to be equal, I guess that should mean that I need to stop treating the subject with kid gloves. You old faggot, you. (see?? I am getting better already!!)
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:09 PM
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61. How can it be weapon if there's NOTHING WRONG WITH IT?

bangs head against wall
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comsymp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:28 AM
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70. Everybody's right, everybody's wrong...
Edited on Thu Sep-29-05 08:32 AM by comsymp
In principle, I agree w/ Newsguy... to a degree. The hypocrisy of ppl like Drier does need to be made public, IMO. But even though something isn't "wrong", it can still be icky.

As for the others - McClellan & Co - well, I see a huuuuge difference between outing a verified closet case, and spreading rumors about possible ones based on flimsy "evidence." That, to me, is way beyond icky.

Edited to add that anyone who doesn't believe that outing is a weapon, is being disingenuous at the very least.


/eligible to vote on this
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 02:44 PM
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74. you pretty much nailed it
it's about honesty -

We're not laughing at the fact that they have so many gays in their party, we're laughing at the hypocrisy of it, and the stupidity and dishonesty of the ones who are gay and in that party.

Let's face it, they are either so full of themselves and delusional they believe they can change the party from within (yes Virginia, there is a Santa Queer), or, there are just as many crazy irrational gays (proportionally) in the human population as there are crazy delusional "moderates" who claim to be republican.

They're a bit like those few wealthy Jews who aligned themselves with the German Nationalist party in the early years of WWII hoping to be close enough to the seat of power not to come under its lash . . .

It didn't work out so well for them in the end.

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ticapnews Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:56 PM
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10. Don't forget the reporter.... (eom)
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ticapnews Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:59 PM
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12. Is it true?
I've said it before and I'll repeat it again. I have learned two things from this Administration.

If you believe something it isn't a lie.
If you repeat something often enough it becomes truth.

I believe these Republicans are gay. Therefore they are gay. I can now repeat that they are gay, knowing that it is the truth.

I think this is a huge step forward for civil rights in this country :sarcasm:
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:59 PM
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13. your other website is missing you
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ticapnews Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:01 PM
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15. What other website?
Please enlighten me. :shrug:

Actually, I gotta head to work. Will have to wait until later to get edumacated.
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:18 PM
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30. He means the Grown Ups website.
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ticapnews Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:25 AM
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67. LOL (eom)
OK...
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MadAsHellNewYorker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:01 PM
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14. damn, its a closeted queens wet dream
:rofl:
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:05 PM
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16. that's probably just the tip of the iceberg nt
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MadAsHellNewYorker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:06 PM
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17. I thought you'd be able to come up with a better euphemism then "iceberg"
:hi:
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:09 PM
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20. harris this a family discussion board. none of that..
:hi:
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:07 PM
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18. oh, of course
i mean, i didn't even mention senator graham or congressman mark foley for example ;-)

the list goes on and on and on...
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:12 PM
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23. i never saw them all listed like that...
it gives one pause...hehe.. :hi:

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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:15 PM
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25. yeh someone should compile a list
and include rick santorums communications director, robert traynham...

yep, even rick has some gay around him...
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:22 PM
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35. well....we are everywhere...even where we are not supposed to
Edited on Wed Sep-28-05 02:24 PM by jonnyblitz
be or are not welcome. I was in the navy...haha..'nuff said.

it's troubling to see our "uncle toms" helping and supporting the enemy though. that is why i have no compassion for them. let them be outted and embarrassed.bastards.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:46 PM
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50. I thought Rick was just into dogs?
:shrug:
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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:28 PM
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72. What about Chris Shays?
I was watching him yesterday and kept seeing it, but I don't know how good my Gaydar is these days.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:14 PM
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24. Of those...
Gay House Majority Leader
Gay National Party Chairman
Probably Gay WH Press Secretary.

Roberts? I don't think so and there's no substantive info to back it up.

Now, I'd go with Mark Foley and a few other CongressCritters, though.
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:16 PM
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26. i was being more facetious
about roberts...

but still, the rumor's there, so i'm gonna go with it.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:16 PM
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27. Their values argument is gone
With their leadership going against what they say they stand for
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:27 PM
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38. what makes it bad
Edited on Wed Sep-28-05 02:27 PM by Ksec
is there core belief system that just despises gays
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:41 PM
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47. Yeah, those faggots are ruining EVERYTHING.
:eyes:
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:47 PM
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51. Isn't it AWFUL?

Everywhere we turn there's more hot guy on guy action!

I feel rather spoiled.
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:52 PM
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54. I KNOW, it's like you can hardly walk down Pennsylvania Avenue anymore
without getting your cock sucked.
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:54 PM
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58. Honey, it's enough to turn you STRAIGHT.

Batting the little buggers away like flies these days...
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:46 PM
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49. There's also Gannon's sugar daddy in the white house...
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:50 PM
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53. Some photographic clues...
Edited on Wed Sep-28-05 02:55 PM by Julius Civitatus
Here are some pictures of some of the current leaders of the PARTY OF HOMOPHOBIA:

John Roberts, gayest photo ever!


Ken Mehlman... so, so gay


David Dreier... gay!


Scotty McClelland... oh no, you di-in't!


;)
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:20 PM
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62. You forgot Jeff Berkowitz - Liaison to the Jewish Community
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 02:48 PM
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75. and those perfectly plucked, arched and slightly penciled eyebrows
dead giveaway. Heck even if he is straight he deserves to be mocked for that.

:evilgrin:
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:52 PM
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55. Rumors about KKKarl, too.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:54 PM
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57. Self hatred is the root of all evil
Isn't it? I've read some speculation (no proof of coursre) that Hilter feared he had a Jewish father.

It's too new-agey for these parts-but don't we just project our self hatred out?
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:28 PM
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63. "don't forget Poland"
this thread made me wonder how Victor Ashe is doing ...

wonder if he's enjoying Poland ...

Ashe being the former mayor of Knoxville, now Ambassador Ashe, and Yale-Bonesman 'friend' of Smirk Bu$h

if you have to ask, kindly google:
"Victor Ashe and George Bush"

aside note:

it's intersting that Al Gore's opponent for Senate in 1984 was ... Victor Ashe ... wonder if Smirk helped him campaign???
http://www.answers.com/topic/u-s-senate-election-1984








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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:39 PM
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64. If your thesis has merit, a whole lot of hypocrisy
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:49 PM
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65. Don't forget the gay male prostitute sleeping-over in The White House
Why the fuck wasn't Jeff Gannon enough to sink them!?!?!

If Bill Clinton had a gay male prostitute having Pajama Parties in The White House, there would have been a trial to make the Monica Lewinsky hearing look like traffic court.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:34 AM
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71. Perception is reality...
.... and I don't have gaydar but I trust yours :)
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 01:30 PM
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73. Gay versus Homosexual
There are some men, especially powerful ones or those who really want power, who engage in homosexual acts, not always overtly sexual, to reinforce or establish a power structure. They get off on the control and dominance they have over other men, even if it's just a theatrical fantasy that uses paid escorts to enact.

Other times they just want to get off. There are men and women who bind with each other or are just attracted to each other and who sometimes have sex. Consenting adults, whatever. It's when they establish or promote policies that enable them to live out their fantasies or actual sexual orientation, yet deprive others by law or statements of being able to live their lives freely and openly, that they're just wrong. So it doesn't matter if they are gay or homosexual or straight, just that they are depriving others of their rights, or promoting oppression or discrimiination.

That's what Mrs. Doubtfire said,right,puppet?

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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 07:52 AM
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76. Ah, yes...nothing like good ol' homophobia on DU
Being gay is not a character defect. It's not some cudgel to bash people with.
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