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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:39 PM
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Hit 'em hard now or hold back a while?
Okay, the Hammer's been nailed. What do Democrats do about it?

Hold back and watch the fun?

Pile on and point to every shit pile under the sun?

At the moment, I really don't know.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:45 PM
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1. hit em while they are down. cruel but hey--we want to keep em down.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:50 PM
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7. That's right.
Hit 'em when they're down and vomiting blood. We don't stop till the wooden stake is through the heart. Then we toss it all in the incinerator.
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:15 PM
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19. What was that DeLay quote? Something about don't just kick an enemy
when he's down; roll him up in burlap and throw him over a cliff.

So the question becomes, not so much do we want to stoop to his level (fuck yeah we do), but, did that really work out so well for him?

Personally, though, I'm thinking that as long as we stay away from the gross corruption part, being a hardass should be just fine. I say go ahead and kick, and lace up those Docs first.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:45 PM
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2. I'm of a mind
that we should pile on and not stop until they are buried under all the crap we know about.

Think about it, people voted for Bush** as the "manly" candidate who sticks to his guns right or wrong and does not back away from a fight. The guy who takes it to them rather than wait for them to come to us. Now I have little hope that most of the people who voted for Bush** because of that will switch over but it may bring in some and it would solidify us.

Personally I am tired of holding back but maybe that is just me. I am an impatient sort. :shrug:
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:45 PM
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3. Tie it together with Frist, Rove and the Cronieocracy
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:37 PM
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25. Cronocracy!
That's pretty good! :thumbsup:
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:48 PM
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4. The Dems should start using the word corruption every time they
open their mouth. Even a redneck understands that word and the Republican corruption is becoming extremely evident more and more, thanks to Cheney and Halliburton.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:49 PM
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5. Hammer the Hammer!!
And this is from a guy that usually has to preach political prudence around here.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:53 PM
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9. What about an outing of Drier by some Dem surrogates?
As I said in another post, the nutties know what a gay man looks like. We won't even need a smoking gun ... just the allegation and the circumstantial evidence. Remember how he went and hid behind the drapes last time it got hinted at?

Now that he's got some juice, I'd love to see us go for it.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:59 PM
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11. I fall into two camps on that one
1) By actively outing someone, in a way you're saying that being gay is wrong, and I certainly do not want to send that message.

2) But then again, a lot of the GOP constiuency does believe that being gay is wrong and they'd love to know that tidbit of information.

So I'm going to punt on that question and leave it up to people who have the ability to actually make that decision.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:50 PM
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6. Crucifixion.. too lenient?
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:59 PM
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12. So long as it's followed up with the spear, I think it'll work.
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dretceterini Donating Member (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:00 PM
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13. Bush already thinks....
he is the second coming of Jesus.

Cruxifiction might actually make some of the fundies happy, as they also believe in resurection.

I say simply lower them all into the wood chipper...
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:31 PM
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23. I think a stake through the heart will keep him from resurrection
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bearfan454 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:52 PM
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8. Stomp them into the ground. Never stop, ever.
Kick the living shit out of them.
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:53 PM
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10. IT'S THE CORRUPTION STUPID
For whatever reason, the media has picked up on and has started investigating corruption in regards to Katrina. The dike has begun to leak and we need to blow it up.
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Real Time Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:09 PM
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14. Hiit them back with this
This is for everyone who wants to know the TRUTH.

Please go to justacitizen.com and sign the petition requesting our government/Bush Admin to release the DOJ-IG Report.

"Sibel Edmonds"
The most gagged person in America.

www.justacitizen.com /

The ACLU is also asking the Supreme Court to reverse the D.C. appeals court's decision to exclude the press and public from the court hearing of Edmonds' case in April. The appeals court closed the hearing at the eleventh hour without any specific findings that secrecy was necessary. In fact, the government had agreed to argue the case in public. A media consortium that included The New York Times, The Washington Post, and CNN intervened in the case to object to the closure.

Edmonds, a former Middle Eastern language specialist hired by the FBI shortly after 9/11, was fired in 2002 and filed a lawsuit later that year challenging the retaliatory dismissal.

It is way past time for a little bit of critical thinking. The Attorney General cites two reasons to justify the unconstitutional and panic driven assault.

Reason one: To protect certain diplomatic relations - not named since obviously our officials are ashamed of admitting to these relations.

Reason two: To protect certain U.S. foreign business relations. Lets take each one and dissect it (I have given up on our mass media to do that for us!) For reason one, since when is the Department of Justice, the FBI, in the business of protecting US sensitive diplomatic relations? They appear to be acting as a mouthpiece for the Department of State. Now, thats one entity that has strong reasons to cover up, for its own self, what will end up being a blunder of mammoth scale. Not internationally; not really; it is the American people and their outrage they must be worried about; they wouldnt want to have a few of their widely recognized officials being held criminally liable; would they?

I am doing all I can to get Sibel story out for, "us" The American Peaple.

The truth will set us free!!!!
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:10 PM
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15. Full force and keep going so they don't have a chance to recover.
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:12 PM
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16. Pile on!
Let me ask you a question. If the shoe was on the other foot how do you think the Republicans would handle it?
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:13 PM
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17. Pile on.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:13 PM
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18. Have the indictments come down?
I thought that was tomorrow.

Please link me!
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:15 PM
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20. Hand me that Louisville Slugger
I feel like doing some holdin' back.
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Real Time Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:17 PM
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21. Hit with this.
This is for everyone who wants to know the TRUTH.

Please go to justacitizen.com and sign the petition requesting our government/Bush Admin to release the DOJ-IG Report.

"Sibel Edmonds"
The most gagged person in America.

www.justacitizen.com /

The ACLU is also asking the Supreme Court to reverse the D.C. appeals court's decision to exclude the press and public from the court hearing of Edmonds' case in April. The appeals court closed the hearing at the eleventh hour without any specific findings that secrecy was necessary. In fact, the government had agreed to argue the case in public. A media consortium that included The New York Times, The Washington Post, and CNN intervened in the case to object to the closure.

Edmonds, a former Middle Eastern language specialist hired by the FBI shortly after 9/11, was fired in 2002 and filed a lawsuit later that year challenging the retaliatory dismissal.

It is way past time for a little bit of critical thinking. The Attorney General cites two reasons to justify the unconstitutional and panic driven assault.

Reason one: To protect certain diplomatic relations - not named since obviously our officials are ashamed of admitting to these relations.

Reason two: To protect certain U.S. foreign business relations. Lets take each one and dissect it (I have given up on our mass media to do that for us!) For reason one, since when is the Department of Justice, the FBI, in the business of protecting US sensitive diplomatic relations? They appear to be acting as a mouthpiece for the Department of State. Now, thats one entity that has strong reasons to cover up, for its own self, what will end up being a blunder of mammoth scale. Not internationally; not really; it is the American people and their outrage they must be worried about; they wouldnt want to have a few of their widely recognized officials being held criminally liable; would they?

I am doing all I can to get Sibel story out for, "us" The American Peaple.

The truth will set us free!!!!
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:18 PM
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22. Hit 'em now
You KNOW they'd do the same to us. :evilgrin:
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:35 PM
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24. Forget 'them', start selling Democratic
The GOP is doing a fine job of killing itself. And so far, THEIR poll numbers going down are not helping OUR poll numbers go up.

So let them continue to screw themselves into the ground. Beyond using their behavior as a comparison, I would leave it alone. Just start selling what Dems could do BETTER.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:36 PM
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26. Just let the truth out. That is all we need.
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