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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:16 PM
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Need help responding to this post on another message board.
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 02:25 PM by MelissaB
This was posted on a fan site, and people there usually try to stay away from politics because it divides people. I don't think I need to pass on this one because there is too much "stuff" here that can be debunked, but I need help. I'd to back this up with links to news articles.

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NNR I live in La...their own MAYOR, then BLANKO

are the ones who should be held accountable for the slaughter and suffering of these people.
I have rode out,and evacuated many many hurricanes in 26 yrs...the lack of respect,care and concern for these people are why this catastrophic event is unfolding such as it is...the most important aspect of this entire situation is ...

...why did this happen to begin with??...

Why was there not enough food/water,emergency supplies stored at their so-called "shelters"...Governor, Mr. Mayor...why were there NOT enough supplies,even just for a few days to sustain your own people, your own constituents that you told to GET OUT, or to LEAVE, go to "shelters", yet don't tell them where to leave "to"??? Or give them a way to the "shelters"...

Mr. Mayor and Governor...you both are AWARE of the poverty, and the elderly,the young children and ill, and the handicap in all your PARISHES,they didn't just "appear"....


...this "is" hurricane season...you are a sitting duck living on the coast...did Andrew,Betsy and many others NOT teach you anything..,for Pete's sake...you both should have taken "reasonable" responsibility and prepared for your ill,elderly,the vulnerable people of poverty....

INSTEAD OF ASSISTING YOU WERE TO BUSY DEMANDING...on what they should "do",but not how or where or means to do!!!!!!!!


I saw an aerial view of about 200+ school buses parked the day of your "mandatory" evacs',just parked..in a gated/locked parking lot...it is without a doubt that many of these people could have been saved that were killed...80+ in a nursing home is 1 example..."ONE" bus could have evac'd those alone...the buses sat parked and no one helped get these people OUT..."BEFORE"...it was so unorganized there it is no longer a shock to most of here that what has happened...has happened...

I know here in our own Parish of Lafayette, the elderly,the ill,and those less fortunate are too often "secondary" in some cases...but at least we do have evac plans for them as well.. we don't PARK our buses and just forget about them...this "your on your own" mind set is barbaric...and has failed once again.

I know folks are to bring their own belongings,food,h20 etc,however the shelters are stocked for emergency supplies for at least 2 days....

Your own hurricane evac info says to have at least 3-5 days of water,food etc on hand during the hurricane, as it may take that long for help to get to you...why didn't you follow your OWN RULES of survival...of preparation....

and why were there not more shelters made available!!!! You can sure find enough places there to eat,play,get drunk,and be merry...but you don't have enough to shelter your own in emergencies...

It was clearly the responsibility of the Mayor and Governor to get these people to a safe place BEFORE the destruction. Then most of this suffering would not have happened...and Mr. Mayor and Governor Blanco,most areas hit were your very own constituents!!....


Some 20+ of us complained religiously for 14 hrs via emails and call....asking WHY are there NO BUSES removing the families from a MANDATORY EVACUATION as she gained strength and continued on her path !!!!!!!! Why are 1000's being told to go to the Superdome only as LAST resort...what did you offer them for 1st resort?...

On a mandatory evac, "ALL" buses, city,school,parish as well as many volunteers,i.e., commercial buses, vans etc are to make continuous pickups from STREET to STREET...hospital to hospital,nursing home to nursing home...That is standard procedure in a MANDATORY EVAC here anyway(We are 80 miles as the crow flies from N.O)!!!

The ones who were capable of driving out, had a horrendous time doing so...it was total unprepared CHAOS..."ALL" major roads, but one, should have led out ONE WAY... there should only be 1 allowing for folks to come in and pick up their loved ones to bring them out....but that was not the case...I watched for "HOURS"...HOURS" and HOURS"...the incoming roads were blocked and EMPTY!!!!!! Just empty...no traffic using them for exits...

...it took friends of ours 4 hrs to get ON an exit ramp!!! This was ridiculous ...your plan of "open both lanes out for certain hours" is not the way...it should be ONE way...OUT...until all can get out...

This is not to remove,or shadow the reasons of lack of follow up care,rescues etc...that is to be questioned for a very long time...however, it is still "H" season here in the gulf...and I hope that others will have or are given "life saving options"!


Edited to add bold for major points.
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moc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:18 PM
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1. That's easy. The State of Louisiana sent an urgent letter
to the President on Sunday the 28th. They knew they didn't have the resources to pull this off.

What did the President do? He went to AZ to eat cake with John McCain.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:21 PM
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2. I posted a link to that letter in another thread.
This person seems determined to blame the mayor and governor.
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:38 PM
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6. Link to PDF of Letter:
http://www.gov.state.la.us/Disaster%20Relief%20Request.pdf

And let's not forget--she had to send that letter to CRAWFORD, because that lazy, evil carpetbagger was on VACATION.

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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:24 PM
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9. When was this letter signed? Does anybody know? n/t
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:37 PM
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10. The levee failed at 11:30 the night before, this letter is dated 8/28.
n/t
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:22 PM
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3. Too bad this person wasn't Mayor of NO
I'll bet they could ave made a difference.

The question I'd ask this Bushbot: What would it take to make you lay responsibility where it belongs? I think only when they are the direct recipients of Bush ineptitude will their 1/4 watt LED turn on.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:33 PM
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4. yeah, when the person who made the phone call and pounds
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 02:38 PM by Bluerthanblue
on the door of the fire house asking pleading, beggin for help, and the firefighters say, "yeuh, we're coming.. be right there" and you keep pounding and screaming and your hands are swolen from beating as you see the flames rising and hear the screams for help and when the screams are being drowned out by the rumble of unmoving fire apparatus, the ignorant, self important, dressed-for the part, fire chief FINALLY comes back from playing pool and drinkin beer, and says..."... Well now, let's us go fight a fire , boys"....

And you blame the guy who was screaming for help-for not breaking into the station stealing the trucks and putting out the fire???? DUH- no

NO offense to firemen or firedepts anywhere in any-way.

But you can't call yourself 'the COMMANDER IN CHIEF' and not be the one to answer for screwing up- even if you are a goddamned son of a bush.

It is time the boyking be HELD accountable- and I say let the survivors of NOLA be his judge and jury.
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:34 PM
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5. LOTS and LOTS and LOTS of evidence at this link:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4588088&mesg_id=4588088

I'm not buying the LIHOP/MIHOP stuff, but there are PLENTY of nails in Bush's coffin here.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:39 PM
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7. I'm looking through this one now. Thanks!
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:01 PM
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8. I used this link posted by Larkspur
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2005_09/007023.php

CHRONOLOGY....Here's a timeline that outlines the fate of both FEMA and flood control projects in New Orleans under the Bush administration. Read it and weep:
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