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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 10:11 PM
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NO MORE MACHINES...If Hackett wins OR loses...(and Gawd, I hope
a miracle occurs!!)We need to use this to illustrate that these goddamn voting machines open up our elections,and therefore our very Democracy to FRAUD. NO MORE!!! Paper ballots NOW!!!
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 10:13 PM
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1. I dont think this election was fixed

BUT I totally support paper ballots...absolutely ... and that should be in place by 2006.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 10:14 PM
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3. Transparency too, or you can get a receipt for a
lie.

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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 10:17 PM
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5. You are probably right. An excellent showing by an excellent candidate..
I get a little nervous, however, when there are 'malfunctions' due to 'humidity'. We may never know if there was fraud...but this can serve as a jumping off point for the movement that removes the possibility of any more fraud in the future. These machines MUST GO!!
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ThumperDumper Donating Member (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 10:13 PM
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2. Catch 22...
We won't be able to require paper ballots until Democrats have the majority and we won't have that until we and insure fair elections.

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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 10:15 PM
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4. Which is why we have to start from the ground up. Straighten out
the local and state voting issues and take it from there.

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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 10:21 PM
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6. we need to get half the country to go on strike or similar
We're not getting listened to.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 10:37 PM
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7. This election USED paper ballots. That's NOT the solution!!!
AARRGGHHH

I'll say it AGAIN, LOUDER THIS TIME:

WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE SECURITY PROCEDURES!!! THE TABULATORS USE CLOSED SOURCE CODE. THERE COULD BE PROGRAMS WRITTEN THAT SWITCH VOTES AND YOU CAN'T SEE IT. UNLESS THERE IS A RECOUNT, AND THAT REQUIRES A CLOSE MARGIN!!!!

THE MEMORY CARDS THAT STORE THE DATA CAN HOLD PROGRAMS TO SWAP THE VOTES. THE MEMORY CARDS CAN BE SWITCHED. THE DATA TRANSMISSIONS CAN BE HACKED. THE DATABASES CAN BE HACKED.
THERE ARE SECURITY LOOPHOLES ALL OVER THE PLACE.

WE NEED TO GET OUR LEGISLATORS TO LISTEN AND TO WRITE LAWS THAT ADDRESS THE SECURITY ISSUES! WE NEED THEM TO WRITE PROCEDURES THAT THE SECRETARIES OF STATE HAVE TO FOLLOW!!!
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