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Firenze777 Donating Member (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 09:37 AM
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Ben "Stand by Your Man" Stein on CBS Sunday Morning
Flaunting that false gravitas (kinda like Cheney), Stein did a commentary that Bush should not give the liberals one scent of blood, and fully stand by Rove because he did NOTHING WRONG, and Valerie Plame was just a desk jockey. Republican talking points regurgitated. I don't know why it struck me as so awful that he did that....at the very least, I guess I thought he would be smart enough just to keep his mouth shut.

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Betsy Ross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 09:41 AM
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1. Pretty appalling
How come nobody mentions the two young Wilson children when they call Plame a desk jockey? I suspect she took some time off covert work for her family. Might she not have returned to such work when her children were older?
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sshan2525 Donating Member (311 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 09:48 AM
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4. What an ass clown
I thought Larry Johnson took care of that "desk jockey" nonsene already on Friday. What's even more amazing is that Stein seems to be saying that Nixon did nothing wrong (illegal?). It was all the media's fault. What is he smoking?
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 09:48 AM
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5. She was under deep cover.
Edited on Sun Jul-24-05 09:50 AM by MyPetRock
These people have "desk" jobs at the CIA for a cover, but work covertly. Most in the CIA don't even know their true identities. Her file was marked TOP SECRET.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 09:43 AM
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2. So the CIA
requested the investigation of a desk jockey? Somehow I kind of doubt that. Stein is such a shill for Bush. He is also a pompous ass.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 09:47 AM
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3. priming the pump
Of course all the GOP officials and media pundits know that Bush admin officials, and likely Bush himself, broke the law and definitely did do wrong.

However, their job is to prime the public for no punitive action against these criminals.

If you notice, damaging info and evidence comes out and an investigation or prosecutor is authorized. This in turn produces a case against the criminals which then has to be spun into great confusion and divisiveness among the people. The investigation ends up as a compromise that is diluted and results in no action. The prosecutor keeps on chugging along but nothing happens.

The people have been primed to tolerate serious crimes and institutional corruption in all levels of government, even if it upsets or enrages them.

In the last year or two, there have been plenty of GOP scandals and crimes, but so far, they have gotten away with almost all of them. They have great hubris and now think they are above the law. Now they can do just about anything and they do. The ramifications are dire, and the most compelling one is what is happening to the planet and the environment, to formerly protected species and habitats, and to billions of the earth's people who are suffering or starving.

The only answer for people right now is diversion. I understand that Harry Potter is extremely popular, along with the many other opiates people use: tv, drugs, alcholol, work, the internet... etc.

Sue
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ugarte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 09:50 AM
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6. Was Stein always this big a jerk?
Or has he rotted from the inside like so many bitter white males?
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 09:51 AM
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8. he has always been a piece of shit ...
A chickenhawk, tax-cutter-and-spend, morally ambivalent gop scatavor.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 09:50 AM
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7. Why is that ass wipe even on the tube to begin with.....
He hasn't done anything political sine he wrote a speach or two for Nixon.....

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eallen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 09:58 AM
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9. Ben Stein lives in a strange world.
In my world, Nixon was our most corrupt president, who illegally and clandestinely bombed Cambodia, leading to the rise of the Khmer Rouge, and the slaughter that followed. In Ben Stein's world, rather than being a cause of this, Nixon would never have let this happen, were it not for Watergate:

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=8242

:wtf:

I've seen some whitewashing in my day. But rarely have I seen it laid on so thick and inartistically. Stein undoubtedly is a bright fellow. But working as a young man for Nixon clearly warped his ability to see the world for what it is, rather than how it appears through some strange, right-wing lens.
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Rebellious Republican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 10:37 AM
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10. Shouldn't that Ben "Stand BEHIND Your Man " Stein
:evilgrin:
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 10:38 AM
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11. Rove, Rove, Beuller, Beuller...
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 10:44 AM
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12. Superman was just a mild-mannered reporter
That's what I say when a Repug says Plame was just a desk jockey.
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Lecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 11:18 AM
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13. That dumbass should stick to hosting game shows
Edited on Sun Jul-24-05 11:21 AM by Lecky
He obviously shouldn't be discussing politics, he's lost his mind.
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 11:21 AM
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14. Good advice for Bush. Let Rove take Bush down with him.
Who is Stein anyway to be on political talk shows? Just some idiot
entertainer with a career in the toilet.
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eallen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 11:31 AM
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17. He was one of Nixon's speechwriters.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 11:23 AM
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15. Now, in the interest of being fair and balanced, get Larry Johnson
on the show next week, and let him speak his piece.

On another note, let's keep letting them dig that hole under their feet deeper and deeper.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 11:30 AM
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16. My hope is that when rove goes
Edited on Sun Jul-24-05 11:31 AM by zidzi
down in flames that ben stein will finally be realized for one of the bigger Fools on the Planet Earth.

I've posted this elsewhere but this is what David Corn said about the rw "fog machine"..

"But truth is not the issue at hand. Winning is. For the right, that means firing up the fog machine and creating as many smokescreens as possible. This comes as no surprise. Still, I find it disheartening. (I can only imagine how Valerie Wilson feels.) Larry Johnson says it's a sign of how desperate the White House and its pals are. He quips, "I love the smell of fear in the morning. It smells like victory." Perhaps. A conservative journalist I know recently emailed to say he was coming to Washington and to ask if I wanted to have drinks with him (which we have occasionally done in the past). I told him I'm in no mood these days. He has yet--as far as I know--not pushed Cliff May's ridiculous Corn-did-it trash. But I need some way to vent my anger and disappointment at folks like May, York and Toensing. This episode is causing Bush's defenders to go to the most ugly extremes. Maybe Larry Johnson is
right."


Edit~http://www.bushlies.com

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