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desi826 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 07:39 PM
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I'm shocked no one is talking about the most incredible part of the Rove
affair.....that the Grand Jury is composed of mainly African American females!!!

Is there NO ONE here that understands the implication of this?

Bush, a man that got where he is today by stepping on the backs of blacks all around the country, now has to deal with the fact that the very race that he burned, now has the power to take him down completely.

Ain't God grand?

To be even MORE direct, there is NO ONE in the African American community more reviled, hated, and despised than one George W Bush.

Or anyone connected to George W. Bush.

Cooper said that he was "grilled" by these women for 2 1/2 hours and they weren't playing around either.

I know it.

If there is a way to nail them on anything, they will do it and not think 2wice about it.

Rove's a goner (and Bush better watch out as well)unless he tampers with that jury; which I wouldn't put past him.

I cannot wait to see how this plays out.
Des
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 07:41 PM
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1. suppose they indict; who's the jury in the trial?
I just about stained my shorts when I found out.
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MO_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 07:49 PM
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10. Who?
Do tell, please. I didn't even know the make up of the grand jury. Can it get better than African-American WOMEN?
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 07:52 PM
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12. IIRC in trials like these
The Supreme Court acts as the judge and the Senate as the jury.
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MO_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 07:58 PM
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13. Oh, shiiiiii.......
I have the same reaction as you.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 08:30 PM
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19. Um I think that's only the Prez...
Anyone else is simply indicted as any other non-muslem citizen would be.

Google Agnew.

-Hoot
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 08:41 PM
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21. encouraging news
Bush himself is a puppet anyway, so Fitzgerald can indeed take out the AEI cabal.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 07:42 PM
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2. I don't think of them as anything other than patriot citizens who CARE
so much about their country and fellow citizens that they intend to uncover the truth no matter what.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 07:42 PM
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3. Are you serious? I had no idea the GJ was mainly A-A women!
Oh, that is fantastic - the irony! :rofl: I love this!
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 07:42 PM
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4. i did not know this
thanks for the glimmer of hope, Desi826
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 07:44 PM
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5. Had no clue! You are certain of this?
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 07:46 PM
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8. Yes, it was in Cooper's article.
"The grand jury, Cooper writes, somewhat reflected the demographics of the District of Columbia. The majority were African-American women and disproportionately women. He writes that one third of his 2 1/2 hours of testimony was spent answering their questions, not the prosecutor’s, although he posed them on their behalf. "

http://www.time.com/time/press_releases/article/0,8599,...

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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 07:48 PM
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9. Wow
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 07:44 PM
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6. I noticed it this weekend and this was my feeling
:evilgrin:
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TrueAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 07:45 PM
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7. On the downside
These brave patriots will probably face the Karl Rove Republican smear machine. On the other hand, they'll have the law on their side.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 07:50 PM
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11. Rove wouldn't be able to obtain their names without breaking more laws.
It's not exactly a publicized list of people.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 08:02 PM
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15. Verifying.
If there are any indictments then the jury will be members of the Senate and the Judge will be a SC justice? Which Senators and what Sc Justice? More info please.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 08:23 PM
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17. I believe that if he is indicted, he will face a trial in a Federal court.
With a sitting jury comprised of DC residents. I believe you are mistaking this with an impeachment.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:12 AM
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28. I can see it now. OJ will become a household name again
Republicans will be claiming it was a racial event and had no basis in Law using the OJ verdict as their evidence. They just refuse to accept Blacks are actually people too.
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writes2000 Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 08:00 PM
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14. They are AA Women But Do The Grand Jurists Actually Indict?
Edited on Wed Jul-20-05 08:01 PM by writes2000
I thought I read that they are there mostly as witnesses to make sure nothing improper goes on.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 08:19 PM
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16. The role of the grand jury is to indict...or not indict. n/t
Edited on Wed Jul-20-05 08:28 PM by tx_dem41
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 08:26 PM
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18. i just read that tonight. it made me very happy. however,
if they indict on flimsy evidence, the indictment won't pass the smell test. keeping my fingers crossed.

ellen fl
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writes2000 Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 08:36 PM
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20. Website explains what a Grand Jury does & how indictments are determined
Here's the site.

http://www.udayton.edu/~grandjur/fedj/fedj.htm

Sounds like the OP is right. Rove's indictments will be determined by a group of African American women.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 09:00 PM
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22. And I'd expect them to do the same thing that a jury composed
Edited on Wed Jul-20-05 09:40 PM by igil
of Latino males, WASP females, or left-handed transgendered Asian males.

Look at the data, apply the law as they're told, and come to the same conclusion that any other group would come to.

This is only "news" because of an assumption that they "vote" or "think" differently, or allow their biases free rein.

(edited to excise and errant <g> ;)
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poetsdream Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 09:23 PM
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23. WOW. This is Fabulous!!
It has been blacks - J Conyers, B Lee, etc., who have played a key role in seeking justice during Bush's tenure. They are the true heros who believe in the dream of America and are living up to the legacy of those who over the past century have sacrified their lives for the fight for freedom.

You go sisters!!!!!!!!!!!!


:bounce: :yourock:
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 09:38 PM
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24. Sometimes I think that African Americans are the only ones
Edited on Wed Jul-20-05 10:20 PM by senseandsensibility
that can see this administration for what it truly is. At least they've done most of the protesting against * so far, EVEN BEFORE IT WAS COOL to do so. But they are not biased against him. They simply have the facts and are not blinded by the BS.
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poetsdream Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 09:53 PM
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25. I Agree - Blacks Have Heard them so long....
they can 'smell' a lie a mile away. They have lived with the lies of politicians, bosses, etc. their entire lives, so can detect it much more easily.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 10:18 PM
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26. only the black caucus protested the 2000 vote verification...news media
OF COURSE, said the only people concerned were black Americans....IOW, the whole thing is totally irrelevant....

someone on a webpage wrote an article along the lines of 'gee, I'm upset...so I must be black...and I never even knew it'

anyone remember this and have a link?????????


I think there was a DU thread on this; each poster started out along the lines of 'I just found out I'm black'
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:05 AM
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27. Wow, I like what I'm reading on this thread...here's a kick!
:kick:
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:13 AM
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29. I thought justice was blind....
:eyes:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:14 AM
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30. Yes
especially if they follow Fitz's lead and indict. Justice comes full circle sometimes.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 11:29 AM
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31. .
Kick
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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 11:44 AM
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32. It's all so sweet so many ways! Rove's talent and ruthlessness
got him and W. to the top of the heap, but it was the exercise of these qualities mixed with the inevitable hubris of their existence that will bring him down. And this is further ironic when we realize that he is exercising his all his talents now to engineer his won demise, that it might do as little damage as possible. Literature follows life.
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