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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 04:14 PM
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Anyone heard about Bushco extending Daylight Saving Time?
News to me, but then the government has a way of sneaking changes in quietly.

"Congress is quietly about to extend daylight-saving time by two months. If President Bush signs on - and, after all, it is his energy bill - DST will end the last Sunday of this November and resume on the first Sunday in March.

<snip>

Congress bills extended DST as a way of saving energy, although the potential savings are somewhat in doubt. What's interesting about extending DST, however, is how little attention it has drawn. We suspect many Americans would have wanted to voice their opinions - and would have, too - had they known it was buried in this monstrosity of a bill."

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/opinion/article/0...
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 04:15 PM
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1. OMG, now he is trying to control the sun!
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 04:16 PM
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3. Damn, you read my mind. What a control freak. n/t
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Fiona Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 04:16 PM
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2. Hrm...
what're they gonna do with all the extra daylight?
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 04:20 PM
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5. Put it in the bank for when the sun goes out.
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 04:19 PM
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4. Personally I support it.

As far as I know, daylight savings time was just there so farmers could get some work out of their kids before they had to send them off to school. Or something like that. Being a late riser, daylight savings time has always just pissed me off. All it does is ensure that it is dark by the time I get off of work in the winter.

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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 04:30 PM
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8. When I was in school it was because the farmers needed the extra daylight.
Time to get rid of some lies.

I'll start with yours. Kids back then didn't got to school during the summer - like now.

As for mine - I've met some farmers. It does nothing for them. The milk farmers still milk the cows at the exact same time. They can't switch the cows to daylight savings time. Farmers that plant work from sun-up to sun-down. Doesn't make a bit of difference to them either.

Found a neat site that has the history of time. Seems we went to a standard time because of railroad schedules. We and the world started daylight savings time during WW1 to save energy. It was repealed after the war and then reinstituted during WW2. So we were lied to in school. Again. Why does just about everyone in power lie to the people? Actually, can anyone think on anyone in power who don't lie to the people?

Anyway, neat site:
http://webexhibits.org/daylightsaving/index.html
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 04:20 PM
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6. Congress actually. It was on the news last night. They've just started
the bill process.
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 04:22 PM
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7. Ive heard candy manufacturers are the major lobby against changing
seriously - because the extra hour of daylight on Haloween means more candy sales for them.
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:04 PM
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18. True
http://webexhibits.org/daylightsaving/k.html

Also, for decades, candy manufacturers have lobbied for a daylight saving time extension to Halloween, as many of the young trick-or-treaters gathering candy are not allowed out after dark, and thus an added hour of light could mean a big holiday treat for the candy industry.
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newswolf56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 04:32 PM
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9. The hidden issue here -- as is often the case with Bush -- is...
Edited on Wed Jul-20-05 04:43 PM by newswolf56
Fundamentalist bigotry. The original Daylight Savings Time (not including War Time c. 1941-1945) ran from 31 April to 31 October or the Sundays closest thereto. Coincidentally, these were pagan high holidays: May Eve, or Beltane -- on the old calendar of Celtic paganism, the first day of Summer; and Samhain or Hallowe'en -- on that same calendar, the night the year dies and the first day of winter. The other significant seasonal dates were Lugnasadh, July 31 or August 1 -- the first day of autumn; and Imbolg, January 31 or February 1 -- the first day of Spring. (Anyone familiar with the environmental and/or agricultural year will immediately recognize that all of these days are more biologically accurate than the dates we use today.) The Fundamentalists fear that MayDay to Hallowe'en daylight saving time might re-emphasize the old pagan calendar, which was an expression of the intimate connection between pagan metaphysics and the biophysics of nature. The Fundamentalists are even more terrified that public knowledge of such connections might re-validate (and thus revitalize) paganism itself. Regarding daylight savings time dates as a potential near occasion of "heresy," the Fundamentalists protested accordingly. Hence the changes in dates, first imposed by the Reaganoids, now by der Bushler.

Edit: for clarity (details added).
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 04:41 PM
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10. LOL,just like Nixon did??
It was so damn dark all the time when kids were going to school that it was finally cancelled. Didn't save a fucking dime in energy,just moved it an hour.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 04:44 PM
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11. How will it play with the Religious Right: " Let there be light".
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 05:10 PM
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12. And when its dark up till 9:30 AM no one will use lights? Bawhahaha
Edited on Wed Jul-20-05 05:10 PM by OneTwentyoNine
Jesus what a fool,the same energy will be used regardless of whether its rolled back or not.

DST is merely for an extra hour for outdoor sports and recreation,it hasn't got SHIT to do with reducing energy use,the day is STILL 24 hours.

Gawd.....
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GracieM Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 05:24 PM
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13. Who's idea was it?
Guarantee Bush wouldn't have thought of it...
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 05:27 PM
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14. Benjamin Franklin's, I believe
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GracieM Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 05:29 PM
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15. Sorry, I meant the extension
I'm not funny...
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 09:17 PM
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19. I know, I'm not funny either but here's a good one that is funny
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 05:30 PM
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16. From the linked article:
Benjamin Franklin is credited with the idea for DST. It was the province of cranks and visionaries until World War I, when Europe and, for a year, the United States adopted it to get more work out of the war workers. It lapsed here, was reinstated during World War II and then lapsed again into an issue of local option. Each time it was the subject of heated national debate, pitting country folk against city folk. Now it's mostly parents of children who have to get up for school in the dark who object.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 05:53 PM
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17. Why don't they just set the time either
back or ahead by one half hour and then leave it that way all year??? :think: I think that would be a good compromise and we wouldn't have to be fooling around resetting clocks and timers.
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djg21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 09:29 PM
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20. I'd love to see permanent, year-round DST.
I hate it when it's dark by 4:00 p.m. in the winter. I'd much rather have an extra hour to be outdoors in the evening then in the early morning, when the temperatures here remain in the single-digits. In fact I'd support two hour switch!
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