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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 04:06 PM
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Roberts had Role in 2000 Fla. recount.
Edited on Wed Jul-20-05 04:10 PM by IChing
Role in 2000 recount
In the aftermath of the disputed 2000 presidential election, Judge Roberts played a key, if quiet, role in the Florida recount.

Although his name did not appear on the briefs, three sources who were personally aware of Judge Roberts' role said he gave Republican Gov. Jeb Bush critical advice on how the Florida Legislature could constitutionally name George W. Bush the winner at a time when Republicans feared that if the recount were to continue the courts might force a different choice.

Okay, everybody who says that Roberts is an acceptable choice... here is a report that he told Jeb Bush how to "constitutionally" name Bush the winner if the recount proved that Bush got fewer votes.

Role in 2000 recount
In the aftermath of the disputed 2000 presidential election, Judge Roberts played a key, if quiet, role in the Florida recount.

Although his name did not appear on the briefs, three sources who were personally aware of Judge Roberts' role said he gave Republican Gov. Jeb Bush critical advice on how the Florida Legislature could constitutionally name George W. Bush the winner at a time when Republicans feared that if the recount were to continue the courts might force a different choice.

I SMELL MORE DOG SHIT
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestne...
edited for source :
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 04:08 PM
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1. source for the above?
Edited on Wed Jul-20-05 04:11 PM by pnorman
pnorman
On edit: I just found a source in "The Greatest": http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestne...
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 04:12 PM
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3. edited with the source from Dallas Morning News
His wife is also a member of "Feminist for Life" and I an' talking about being a feminist for the rest of their life.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:03 PM
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13. Yeah, it's freakin' the Orwellian
Way!
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 04:24 PM
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7. Thanks I didn't see it.
I don't care about the nomination just that this info gets out.
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Son of California Donating Member (467 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 04:10 PM
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2. it keeps getting better
doesn't it.
Give it a month or two.

we'll find eveything on this guy.
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 04:21 PM
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4. Good -- keep bringing stuff like this up
Thanks for posting this.
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mandomom Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 04:22 PM
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5. I want to see the billable hours.
And what was a DC law firm with ties to the presidency doing advising a state governor on how to put the slip to American voters by overturning a legitimate election? They were gonna steal it one way or another, but do we really want a judge who was apparently willing to help Jeb Bush undo an election should that need have arisen, ie, if SCOTUS had not pulled the worm out of the tequila bottle and made Bush president? Was that kinda just "representing a client" or was that a more insidious example of a willingness to engage in situational ethics and moral relativism? How partisan does a nominee have to be before he/she is ineligible for Americans' trust? Just asking.
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mandomom Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 04:23 PM
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6. BTW, was he licensed to practice law in Florida?
Or was this just a behind the scenes political tricksie, the kind where partisanship rules and no license is needed?
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 07:04 PM
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18. Advised Jeb..read my link I posted the same on a different thread
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 04:25 PM
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8. And don't forget Bolton, the other nominee
<http://blogs.salon.com/0002255/2005/04/19.html >

Stop wishful thinking about the Cheney/Bush administration ~
the perfect raw image of this arrogant and corrupt presidency is John Bolton .

Bolton's self righteousness and kick down the doors and
take-no-prisoners approach to power has been well documented
but one story, by John Nichols, stands above the rest ~ a story that should seal his confirmation fate.

It was December of 2000 and former Secretary of state & Bush counsel James Baker was nervous ~ He needed a Republican bully and stooge to shut down the recounts of the ballots from Florida counties before those counts revealed that Gore had actually won the state's electoral votes and the presidency.

He found his thug ~ who came crashing into that Tallahassee
library on December 9th, 2000 screaming " I'm with the Bush-Cheney team, and I'm here to stop the count."

That man was John Bolton.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:01 PM
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12. Yeah,Bolton, he is a thug and bully, Roberts role was legal advice.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 04:30 PM
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9. Like This Is Going To Matter!!
I don't care what the issue, what the crime, what the affront to our Liberties, We The People have yet to make any headway!!

There have been so many instances JUST SINCE the election of 2004 that COULD/SHOULD have made some heads roll! BUT as yet, it's a BIG FAT ZERO!!!

Heil Hitler!!!
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 05:18 PM
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11. It's demoralizing, isn't it?
Somedays I wonder how much more of this shit I can take. These guys are so heavily coated with teflon it is simply mind boggling! It will take decades to undo the damage they have done to our republic, & that won't begin to happen as long as election fraud is never addressed.

In spite of the fact that it feels hopeless somedays, I'm still here & I'm still involved. Most of my dem friends are no longer involved with politics at all. They don't keep up on anything going on, they don't want to hear what's going on. ARGHHHH!!! I refuse to do that regardless how hopeless I feel. It was my years of apathy that helped get us in this mess.

But somedays it's hard to stay in the ring!
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 09:43 PM
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20. Unfortunately... I Can't Blame Apathy For What I Feel...
I've been politically active for so long that most people simply KNOW what will be coming out of my mouth.

I've been a drum beater since the late 60's, and even before that as a very young kid. Got the bug when I was around 12!

What is going on now is a phenomenon that is totally UNREALISTIC! I'm sure I won't be able to get it out of my blood, but being constantly CONFOUNDED is certainly putting a KABASH on my enthusiasm!!

I think a great deal of it stems from the fact that I feel we are not only getting royally screwed, but that we HAVE NO real leaders these days. Oh, a few here and there, but mostly D.C. looks like Wimp Town to me! What is even more irritating is I can't FIGURE it out! I recall a time when things looked gloomy, BUT there were the Abbe Hoffman's and many many others out there to take a stand. And it MEANT something. These days, and even though it may seem tongue in cheek, I actually think we are in a state of ANARCHY!! This is NOT A DEMOCRACY that I've ever seen!!!

So I'm royally PISSED!!!
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 04:47 PM
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10. Yup,same article in our paper today....n/t
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AlGore-08.com Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:22 PM
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14. I posted a similar thread about the same article
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bejammin075 Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:49 PM
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15. Great Opportunity To Bring Up Fact that Gore Won FL
If the info above is correct, I say, when we talk about this, remind people that FL would have be WON by Gore, if they had done a real recount. I don't remember who or how it was done (i'm sure there are hundreds here who do know), the recount that is, but I recall hearing that after the election was over, they did a real recount and Gore won.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:59 PM
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16. quid pro quo, eh?
Roberts helps slip Bush into WH, Bush gives him plummiest job.

Just sickening.

I suppose the next nominee will be Ben Ginsberg.
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 07:00 PM
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17. Funny we're on the same page, I just posted the same thing!
Edited on Wed Jul-20-05 07:02 PM by demo dutch
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

heared it on Hardball from Katrina vd Heuvel and googled it.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 09:07 PM
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19. Sending this link to FL newspapers ASAP.
This ought to get the angry folks down here going, ALL OVER AGAIN.
Like we need any prodding. We have been boiling angry since November, 2000.

All of this stinking corruption...

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electron_blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 09:45 PM
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21. oh. are you saying there's a conflict of interest here?
duh duh

i hope we hear more about this.
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