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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 04:24 PM
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Young Republicans declare war on Hillary...
Members attending the group's biennial convention said it's not too early to talk about how to keep a Republican in the White House, and they believe Clinton could help them win again if she were on the Democratic ticket.

"I think it's very likely the senator from New York will run," said Rick Veenstra, 27, chairman of the Illinois Young Republicans. "She'll bring a lot of people to the polls. The name Clinton before a number of Republicans is akin to waving a red flag."

Convention guests attended several panels and training seminars on Thursday, including one on how to mobilize young voters by "keeping it positive not partisan." They were told the only demographic President Bush lost to Sen. John Kerry in 2004 was those ages 18 to 29.

"This party cannot afford to allow that segment of the population to be Democrat," said Frank Fahrenkopf, former Republican National Committee chairman and Thursday's keynote speaker. "This is where the Young Republicans can be of particular value."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050708/ap_on_re_us/young_r...

Ah, my young Siths in training, you're STILL losing ground in that demographic:

Youth Say: Bad Bush, No Biscuit!

Greenberg Quinlan Rosner (GQR), in conjunction with internet survey firm Polimetrix, is conducting a "Youth Monitor" series of surveys of 18-25 year olds. The first survey in the series has just been released and it suggests that youth, as they showed in the 2004 election, are very much not with the Bush program.

According to the poll, youth give Bush a strongly net negative approval rating--42 percent approval,with 58 percent disapproval, for a -16 net. Even more tellingly, youth hold the following views: by 63-37, they feel the war in Iraq has not been worth the cost in US lives and dollars; by 65-33, they believe the Democrats, not the Republicans, do a better job representing the interests of young people; by 64-36, they think Bush and the Republicans "are going too far by invading peoples' personal lives and family decisions", rather than "are doing a good job in trying to uphold moral values and protecting families"; by 58-42, they believe we need to work harder at tolearting people who are different, particularly gays, rather than work harder at upholding traditional values and strong families; and, last but not least, by 57-43, they think that Bush has not made us safer from terrorist attack.

By these data, the Democrats should replicate their recent strong performance among young voters in 2006 and perhaps beyond.

http://www.emergingdemocraticmajorityweblog.com/donkeyr...

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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 04:27 PM
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1. That's the only kind of war they will participate in
Those sniveling cowards.
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adarling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 04:28 PM
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2. i can't stand them,
they give my generation such a bad name. They are the gutter trash and the most cynical group of people i have ever met. The young republicans on campus here at IU are such sleaze and are soooooooooo dumb. I can't stand it. I wish the young democrats would start becoming a little more involved in things. the chapter here on campus are not addressing alot of things, due to the fact that we are majority here, but those kids are just so damn insane and lame.
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 04:33 PM
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3. those yellow bellied bitches should be in iraq right now.......
if they love and worship chimpy and the GOP they should show their support and pick up a rifle and take the first military flight to iraq.

young republicans = cowardly bitches
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 06:02 PM
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33. Young Republicans --- Fighting them at home, so
they don't have to fight them abroad.


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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 04:51 PM
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4. They're too chicken to fight anyone but a woman?
Ptooey! These are girlie-boys.
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 04:52 PM
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5. They know Hillary cannot win the general election.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 09:47 PM
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20. Hillary is our best shot in the General Election...
If they truly believed she was a pushover they would shut their yaps and let us nominate her as it looks like we may (which is A-ok with me). The fact that they are going after her now, 3 years before the election tells me they are worried...and they have good reason to be.
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:34 PM
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23. I think she scares the shit out of them but at the same time, the orcs
relish using her to raise more money for their neferious and corrupt agendas.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 01:11 PM
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27. True...but she raises money for us too...
And remember what ultimately happened to the Orcs!!!
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 05:19 PM
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6. Good. Better to waste their time on Hillary than other things.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 05:19 PM
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7. why do young repugs hate America?
why aren't they fighting in Iraq?
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sambird90 Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 05:22 PM
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8. "I want you"
said Uncle Sam. The army is having trouble filling its recruiting quotas and are camped out at our nations high schools to fill its need. Would it be fair to ask if there were any military recruiters in attendance? :shrug:
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 05:23 PM
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9. I'm sorry... I know this is a serious subject...
but, did the subject line make anyone else laugh out loud?

It reminded me of "Attack of the 50-Ft. Woman" or one of those cheesy horror flicks...

Who cares what a bunch of white-boy RW chickenhawks thinks about Hillary Clinton? With her intelligence and good political sense, she won't run, and this'll all have been for nothing. They will have been spinning their wheels.

Until then, though, I'm still chuckling at the thread title!

TC
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woodleydem Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 06:00 PM
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10. Very similar to how Democrats in 1979 were salivating at the thought of
facing that RW nut Ronald Reagan. The RW should be careful for what they wish for.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 06:06 PM
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Oh, please...
Reagan wasn't reviled by the other side the way Hillary is. Many Democrats didn't even know him, politically. To most he was a former actor who was a so-so Governor of Calif. Her record is well out there, both as a Senator and a First Lady. And, as much as I like and admire her as a person, she and Bill are absolutely hated by most on the other side, and far too polarizing to do us any good in a GE. Plus, and this is only personal, I really don't like that she has moved so far right to become more palatable to more of the Party. I just don't.

TC
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:56 PM
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19. Actually his reputation as Calif. governor
was pretty bad. The state universities used to be free to residents until he was governor. I believe there were a lot of free-speech issues during his governorship. A lot of progressive folks were terrified when he won the election. We were afraid of what would happen if this right-wing lunatic got his hands on America's WMDs -- kind of the way people felt about Barry Goldwater in the 60s.
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woodleydem Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 03:19 AM
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25. Oh please. As if the 2004 election wasn't the most polarizing election we
will see in the next twenty years. Have there been two more "polarizing" Presidents in the last two decades than Bill Clinton and George W. Bush? "Polarizing" isn't enough to defeat someone. If a fired up base was enough to win, then John Kerry would be President right now, because the our base was real fired up in 2004. The litmus test for most Americans in the 21st century when it comes to Democrats is: NATIONAL SECURITY and pragmatic foreign policy. The problem with Kerry was he never had an overarching theme to his campaign, like Bill Clinton always had. That large percentage of people that "hate" Hillary are called strong Republicans, who will hate anybody we put out there. This country has no qualms about electing "polarizing" individuals as President. I don't know if Hillary can win a national election, but at least I know she is surrounded by the best and brightest political consultants who have been in the trenches for two WINNING national elections. There will inevitably be many "swift-boat" like-attacks on Hillary, but I can guarantee you it won't take her campaign two weeks to respond to the attacks. And if the fringe liberal wing and the fringe conservative wing both hate Hillary, it probably means she is doing something right.
:toast:
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 06:06 PM
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11. Oh, please...
Reagan wasn't reviled by the other side the way Hillary is. Many Democrats didn't even know him, politically. To most he was a former actor who was a so-so Governor of Calif. Her record is well out there, both as a Senator and a First Lady. And, as much as I like and admire her as a person, she and Bill are absolutely hated by most on the other side, and far too polarizing to do us any good in a GE. Plus, and this is only personal, I really don't like that she has moved so far right to become more palatable to more of the Party. I just don't.

TC
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 06:17 PM
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12. If they *really* want a war, there are two places with the real thing
Go get 'em, boys!!!

:eyes:
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 06:31 PM
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13. Who cares? Man these people are stupid! Why are they wasting the
resources of colleges. They are clearly ineducable. Who cares about Hillary besides Republicans?
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ten Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 07:37 PM
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16. Different groups
Young Republicans and College Republicans are different organizations.

College Republicans: members are college students
Young Republicans: members are between 18 and 40 years "young."

College Republicans: swindle money from senior citizens.
Young Republicans: swindle money from each other.
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Puglover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 06:25 AM
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26. Very funny and true 1st post Ten!
Welcome to DU!


:toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast:
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BlueStateGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 06:36 PM
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14. Young Repubs V Hillary?? My money is on Hillary.
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 07:16 PM
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15. How about a few practice runs in a circular firing squad?
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:33 PM
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17. So, the 18-25 group goes 2 to 1 Democratic
not bad.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 06:12 PM
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34. except the third that goes Republicans are some of the worst
sheepish, goose stepping, master race... many are really convinced of themselves as the "chosen people".
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:53 PM
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18. My question: why haven't they suited up yet? Iraq is over there.
Let's get the Junior Chickenhawks in Basic Training. Pronto.
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:01 PM
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21. What they're not saying is that they are afraid that BILL will be back!
And he will put impure thoughts in the minds of their women who will then demand SEX which is something that they can only accomplish with a hooker. :)
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Gyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:41 PM
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22. They're hoping like hell she'll get the nomination.
If she doesn't, then they're gonna have to explain a 20+% difference between the exit and official poll results. Another repiglican win is much more probable, to the average American, if Hillary is in the race.

Gyre
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derbstyron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 01:50 AM
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24. Well, if they're so willing to fight....


I can think of a few places they can go.
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darkism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 01:20 PM
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28. If you thought the nutjobs came out in force to vote against Kerry...
...just imagine what will happen with a Clinton on the ballot.

Hillary cannot win. Mark my words.

Clark is our best shot.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 01:30 PM
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29. they are being trained
to take over the country. check this link http://www.phc.edu/about/default.asp
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 02:32 PM
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30. Yawn.
They're creaming their jeans over something that's just not going to happen.

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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 04:09 PM
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31. looking forward to see how "the Book" DOESN'T effect her standings
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MODemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 05:23 PM
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32. Typical neo nazi snobs; hate women, especially a smart one
Hillary can handle them with ease. They're not even dry behind their ears yet; surely they won't be that stupid for the rest of their lives! :toast: Here's to you Hillary, you have them running scared.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 06:13 PM
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35. I suppose any war that doesnt involve harming their precious
clean white superior bodies or getting mixed up with 'undesirables'... bout the only war they have the balls to declare.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 06:14 PM
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36. I find it really funny that they're freaking out so early about Hilary!
It's not only these Young Repubs, but all of them! I can't tell if they're just trying to slam whichever candidate appears first so they can knock 'em down one by one, or if they're sooo freaked by the idea that there could ever be another Clinton in the WH!

Ya know, in a way, I have to kinda sympathize with them. I'd be acting even worse if I thought there was going to be another Bush!!!!
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