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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 05:51 PM
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Wes Clark on Hannie & Homie (Faux) today at 9:00 p.m. E.T.
Edited on Thu Jul-07-05 05:51 PM by FrenchieCat
Wes Clark is to appear today to discuss the Terrorist bombings in London.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 06:05 PM
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1. Okay!
Finally... a voice of reason in a world gone mad!

TC
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 06:36 PM
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2. Thanks
I hope he gets called by CNN -- it's the only news channel I get here.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 06:41 PM
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3. I'll force my TV to that station at the designated hour,
It doesn't like to go there but I have it trained on command.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:20 PM
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6. Here's the website....(Yuk!)
Posted on "Hannity and Colmes"
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,134671,00.html< ;http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,134671,00.html >
Thursday, July 7 - 9 p.m. ET

We'll have complete coverage and analysis of the terror attacks in central London earlier today. At least 45 people are confirmed dead in the aftermath of three explosions on the city's subway system and one on a double-decker bus. At least 1,000 people are injured and among them 150 people are said to be seriously injured.

Our guests this evening include:

Former NYPD Commissioner Bernard Kerik who joins us from the Middle East

Former NATO Supreme Allied Commander and current FNC contributor Gen. Wesley Clark

Rev. Jesse Jackson

Radio talk show host and former Education Secretary Bill Bennett

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sundancekid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:49 PM
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16. ok, so it's ONE MAN and 3 babies ... another backwards movie day on Faux
Sock it to 'em, General. Snap the starch out of all their nappies, and start with Hannie.
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:49 PM
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17. The last time I saw Kerik and Clark it became evident who was qualified
to be Homeland Security Chief. Is Kerik back in the Middle East to pick up some more of the cash cache?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:16 PM
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25. No Wes yet....
Ridge is on, and he wasn't listed in the line up. Hope they didn't decide to replace Wes....and have Jesse Jackson as our only Dem talking about Terrorism on that show!

I wouldn't put it past them!
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:00 PM
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4. Should be worth it
Clark always puts Insannity in his place, and I need to hear some intelligent words on the terrorism issue.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:10 PM
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5. You ain't kidding.....
After seeing Guiliani talking shit on CNN......I need some reason.

At least James Rubin was on CNN talking sense! Guess it must be cause he's a Clarkie! LOL!
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:11 PM
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10. Well.
Look. Who's. Here.

:hi:
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:21 PM
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7. Thanks for the heads up
:kick:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:35 PM
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8. Also.....
General Clark will appear on Fox News Live tomorrow morning (Friday) at 9:00am EDT.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:01 PM
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9. I hope to God he repeats his prediction that the terrorists now training
in Iraq (thanks to Bushco) would be fanning out into Europe and beyond.

I hope Clark really puts it to Hannity--shove the contract, they would do us a favor it they canned you, Wes. We need to see you EVERYWHERE!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:24 PM
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11. Yep...Clark was prescient
as usual!

You've got that right!
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:31 PM
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13. Wow, now that a frame
Love note from Al Quaida: "Gee thanks for the spiffy training ground, America. Now we have all the networking and weapons and personnel we need. Never have we had better recruitment. Not to mention the motivation as well as the drug trade you so thoughtfully haven't stopped in Afghanistan yet.

If only we didn't hate you we'd give you a big hug for all the help. But don't worry. We'll meet soon enough. Hrrr... hrrrrr... hrrraaahahhahahahaha!"

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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:42 PM
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14. Amazing really
He told them that 3 times last week.

I'm expecting him to be tough tho, Wes doesn't like terrorists.

Of course, since I don't get fox, I won't know anything.

Keep me posted all you brave DUers.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:48 PM
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15. I don't like 'em either Donna
Intentionally blowing up city buses, and Social Justice, conflict for me.
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:53 PM
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18. And!!!
Not only are people who get killed powerless themselves to effect policy, and thus, innocent.

Because of the terrorist (a term we've yet to define, I mean I doubt that this is a monolithic group) our leadership uses them to destroy our Constitutional rights.

Pisses me right off.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:11 PM
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23. Wes said that this F*cking administration doesn't know what
they are doing with their foreign policy....and he's worried about it. And so am I!
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Texas_Kat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:27 PM
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12. Thanks for the heads up!
I can't believe that bald Bernie is gonna be appearing with him.

Well, we knew they need WKC to class the place up!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:05 PM
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21. The bald dumb guy is on right now....
and is saying absolutely nothing!
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:15 PM
Response to Reply #21
24. Well, he can say "9/11" in every breath.
That's all the guy says.
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:56 PM
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19. For Clark, I will bravely face the faux network, while
he bravely kicks their asses in such a nice-iron-fist-velvet-glove way...
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:02 PM
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20. it's 9:00PM EDT....
pass me a barf-bag... I'm going in, Rambo!

Only for Wes would I watch this network! LMAO!

TC
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:06 PM
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22. I'm watching the screen with my mute button on.
Edited on Thu Jul-07-05 09:21 PM by FrenchieCat
Worse than watching Faux is listening to it!
So much torture, so much time!

Waiting for the General.

I think that Wes is on after the break!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:25 PM
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26. Ok, Wes is on....
Got to follow the evidence on this one. Listed a litany of what proof the British have to find prior to determining what action should be taken.

Al-Queda is a "franchise" now. Got to get the Islamist countries involved in not allowing the young Muslims to believe that God is on their side.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:28 PM
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30. Hannie asking stoopid questions.....
minute interview....

started the music, when Wes started talking about strengthening all of the treaties out there....that we have not.

He started listing them......music.

Thank you General Clark!

They really don't want to hear what he has to say. He makes so much sense....as opposed to Sean warmonger chickenhawk Hannity!

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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:26 PM
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27. Wes: "Can't depend on a military action abroad to protect us at home."
Now Insannity is on a rant. :puke:
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:28 PM
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28. Wes ignores the rant and turns Insannity's comments
praising Idiot Boy President and talks about how to strengthen NATO and other worldwide organizations.

Clark NEVER agrees with Insannity's kiss-Bush-ass comments - he just winced and ignored them. :rofl:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:32 PM
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33. They should be wanting to hear what Wes has to say.....
Edited on Thu Jul-07-05 09:35 PM by FrenchieCat
Cause he told Hannie, just last week...

that more and better trained terrorists are moving out of Iraq and into Europe and are plotting other attacks
http://www.commongroundcommonsense.org/forums/lofiversi ...

They must not want to know!
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Lecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:28 PM
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29. Hannity is such a scum bag
"Doesn't this prove Bush was right?" WTF!?

Also, what is the point of Colmes existance on that show exactly?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:30 PM
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31. P-R-O-P-A-G-A-N-D-A ! n/t
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:33 PM
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35. I like how Wes won't let Insannity frame the debate.
He never falls for the carrott. He just keeps ticking off the points regarding what national security and foreign policy SHOULD be about and leaves the ranting to the Faux News idiots.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:36 PM
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39. And he's so smooth at it.
"You're onto something important when you mention WMDs, Sean. That's the reason we need to work on homeland security and deal with the $100 billion shortfall after spending $200 billion in Iraq." (Paraphrasing)

He's so right, too. And in typical fashion, AFTER something happens they'll start on "security," always locking the barn door after the horse escapes. And if it's a WMD launched from a ship, they'll stop exports and imports to/from our ports and our economy will crumble.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:31 PM
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32. Wasn't that incredible? "Bush was right to get Saddam's WMDs?"
What WMDs, Sean?
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:34 PM
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37. Yeah Sean, we sure kept London safe
What would getting Saddam's non-existant WMD's have to do with the London attack anyway.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:37 PM
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40. He's hoping no one will notice....
Edited on Thu Jul-07-05 09:42 PM by FrenchieCat
that we are all too busy singing the British National Anthem.

That's a Repugs thing...if it's National Security, they think that they can say whatever they want. They are convinced that the "own" the issue!

Arrogant know nothing blowhard assholes!
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:40 PM
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43. "Doesn't this prove Bush was right" was the Right's talking point
Everything got spun by those jerks around to , "doesn't this prove Bush was right?" No logic needed, just: This is evil, Bush said we have to get evil doers, Bush was right."

God even when there is a real tragedy, a real danger, a real threat, all they could do was spout Republican talking points.

Clark wouldn't go there with them, he wanted to make several important points instead, so he used his time to make them.

You can't resort to military responses to everything was a point Clark made. Police work is what is needed now to trace the links to who was responsible

Terror is now a franchise operation was another. It doesn't need to be directed from afar by some elaborate organization, the skills and the model are out there now.

Trying to protect America by spending 200 Billion dollars fighting in Iraq won't work, was a BIG point. Clark showed the hollowness of "fighting them there so we don't have to fight them here".

This is an ideological war was something Clark chose to focus on. It is a war of ideas, it has to be fought on that basis, We need to coutner act those who say God wants you to murder.

We underfunded homeland security by 100 Billion Dollars while we spent those 200 Billion in Iraq, another point.

International cooperation to stop the spread of WMD was the last point Clark got to make while the music was rolling and they were pushing him off camera. Clark ticked off International treaties and organizations that the United States needs to work closely with.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:45 PM
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47. Great "scribing"
Tom! :hi:
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 10:11 PM
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58. Well I had to do something to justify my time spent watching FOX n/t
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 04:03 PM
Response to Reply #58
66. Today's Non-Sequitur
is hilarious and is about Fox News ... dead on!

So, Tom, this ones for you!

http://www.ucomics.com/nonsequitur /

TC
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 05:11 PM
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68. Way, way, too funny!!
I've been out all day, what a great thing to log on for. Yep, that's fox alright. I loved the "Since when?" "Just kidding..."
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 05:28 PM
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69. When I saw it, I thought of your post!
I love that Danae character so much, anyway... but today's was especially great.

So glad you liked it!

TC
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:32 PM
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34. Hannity is pure evil

Wes did well, he did wince at Hannity.

Hannity wanted to get Wes to say that Bush was right to go to Iraq. He had two points to make tonight - we are right to use serious efforts to extract evidence from Gitmos detainees and we are right to go to Iraq.

Wes ignored him and got in the important point that we spent $200B in Iraq and are $100 B short in US on homeland security
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:33 PM
Response to Reply #34
36. Whoop, there it is!
Shaka-laka shaka-laka Shaka BOOM! :headbang:
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Misskittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:48 PM
Response to Reply #34
48. I love West, but I didn't like his WMD comeback this time.
By saying "I'm glad you brought up WMD," he impliedly validates Hannity's ridiculous rant. Wish Wes had said, "No, Sean, that's not right. But I'm glad you brought up WMD...(and then changed the subject).
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:53 PM
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50. I won't quibble with ya on that one, but...
...It's almost like saying to a boxer, I'm glad you set him up for that left hook of yours, but you shouldn't have dropped your right and let him land that jab on you.

These "interviews"/combat are fast and furious. Us arm chair quarterbacks can each come up with something we could have said better, but if we were in the middle of that brawl probably the other guy wold have landed 8 punches while we were thinking of it. I'm sure Hannity is kicking himself right now ( or did during the break) for giving Clark so many chances to make his points. Clark made a lot of them.

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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:54 PM
Response to Reply #48
51. I see your point, but they give him so little time.
He just tries to stay on HIS message and ignore theirs.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:56 PM
Response to Reply #48
52. Did he say that
before or after he mentioned the non-prolifiration treaty that we neede to address for that very reason? That this proves that terrorists don't need WMDs to do damage.....

But I do think that he should have said "what WMDs?"....in relations to the Saddam reference that Hannie had the audacity to bring up.
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judy from nj Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:36 PM
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38. Thanks for the update
I wasn't able to see it. Where was Wes?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:38 PM
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41. In Colorado! n/t
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:44 PM
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46. Anyone know why?
Business or pleasure for the General?
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:38 PM
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42. In Aspen. n/t
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:41 PM
Response to Reply #42
44. Do any of you know what he's doing in Aspen, CO? (n/t)
TC
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:43 PM
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45. No clue.... n/t
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:56 PM
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53. He's on a board of a Colorado Co.
The people who are working with Microsoft to develop a plane that is highly computerized and get greater lift using less fuel and creating less pollution.
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judy from nj Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:52 PM
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49. Found this about the Aspen Conference

Hey there. I'm up here in the high mountain country attending a big bipartisan sit-down at the Aspen Institute's stunning Colorado campus. I arrived late last night as fireworks illuminated the shadowy ridgeline and the explosions reverberated off multiple mountain faces. By morning, I had trouble catching my breath because the country out here is simply beautiful beyond words.

The Aspen Institute is having a gigantic week-long big-think jamboree out here, and it is a remarkably bipartisan venture. I'm hoping to do a little liveblogging from various events here, including a couple different discussions with appropriately diverse views about the future of the Supreme Court. Tonight is David Boies and Ted Olson with Chris Matthews moderating.

http://www.liquidlist.com/archives/2005/07/admin_where_...
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:58 PM
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55. Bingo
He's done panel discussions there before.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 10:01 PM
Response to Reply #49
56. Ah-ha!
That sounds like something the General would attend.

Thanks for posting!
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 11:52 PM
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59. Aspen Institute
He went in 2003, too.
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:57 PM
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54. Clark was in Aspen at Ideas Institute - Speaker
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 10:09 PM
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57. Thanks....
Didn't know that!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 03:53 AM
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60. Review from Newshound!
http://tinyurl.com/ca2z2


Hannity Tries To Spin London Attacks As Proof Of "The Wisdom In Why Bush Went To Iraq"
Sean Hannity came up with a novel, if incomprehensible, way to spin yesterday's attacks in London - by claiming they prove Bush did the right thing by invading Iraq.

>snip
Clark immediately showed himself to be several cuts above the run-of-the-mill FOX military analysts who are so hawkish, they have probably already appeared on other shows advocating why the London events prove we need to invade Syria, Iran and God knows where else.

Instead, Clark figured out a way of turning around Hannity's nonsensical "questions" and used them to his own advantage. Clark said Hannity was on "to a very solid point" by talking about WMD's, that the London bombers seem to be a very localized group, but we have to make sure they never get WMD's.

Hannity, seemingly pleased that Clark appeared to agree with him, said, "That's why we take it out of the hands of Saddam when he won't abide by the world community. That's the wisdom in why Bush went to Iraq." (Comment: Another incomprehensible feat of reasoning, but mental acuity has never been Hannity's strong point.)

Clark, having lulled Hannity into complacency said that rather than look at what has been done, we need to talk about what to do now. He then went through a laundry list of to-do items that Bush has so far failed to do: "Strengthen the nuclear non-proliferation treaty, the UN inspection regimes, working on biological weapons treaties and inspections, chemical weapons treaties, We need to work to isolate rogue states."

Attention all Democrats: You can learn to get your talking points in, too.
Reported by ellen at July 7, 2005 11:15 P


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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:08 AM
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61. Okay...
That sounds like the interview I saw!

And, also -- a big thanks about the info on the Aspen Ideas Forum.

Sounds like a great thing for Wes to speak at and attend. Wouldn't you LOVE to attend a forum where a number of great thinkers go and share Ideas? -- I could do without the RW-ers, truthfully (Toni Morrison and Wes in one place would be Nirvana for me), but if it is set up to be a BIPARTISAN sharing of ideas, what better place to pick their brains than in a place like the beautiful Aspen, CO, over a few days of schmoozing. Knowing Wes, he came away with every RW-ers brain picked clean! LOL!

Thanks, everyone, this is a wonderful thread!

TC
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CarolNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:17 AM
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62. well, I still didn't see this but I quite liked this analysis
that I received via email with an invite to forward it on....


General Clark shined on Hannity and Colmes. Here is a summary of General
Clark's major points that he made starting with what he said to Alan Colmes:

1) He first told Alan Colmes that the Brits have done a wonderful job as our
allies and he commended them.

2) He said that a complete investigation of the facts of the London bombing
was needed by police and law enforcement first before a military response.

3) He said that there are al Qaeda copy cat organizations and we do not know
if there was any central direction involved in this attack.

4) He said that we need to take away the extreme terrorist ideology that God
approves of terrorism and bombings. He said that is a responsibility of the
Islamic community and must be done more at home and abroad.

5) He said that we have to invest more in homeland security and mentioned
that we are about $100 Billion short on that here in this country while we have
invested about $200 Billion in Iraq so far.

6) The last key point that he made to Alan Colmes was that you cannot depend
on military action abroad (in Iraq) to insure that you do not have a threat at
home!

This was the end of the interview with Alan Colmes. Now we go into Sean
Hannity's loaded questions of his trying to justify what Bush did in Iraq.
Hannity's whole line of questioning was about weapons of mass destruction and trying
to justify the "wisdom" of why Bush went to war in Iraq!

Gen. Clark handled Hannity is a completely masterful way in my opinion. He
did not play Hannity's game and get sidetracked into a debate about why we
initially went to war in Iraq! Here are the main points that Gen. Clark made to
Sean Hannity:

1) He mentioned a danger of local terrorist cells having the sophistication
to do what they did with weapons of mass destruction such as the London
bombings.

2) He made the best point to Hannity by saying that we need to talk about
what we need to do NOW rather than why we went to Iraq!

3) He then went on to say that there are lots of things that we need to do to
go after this and he named all of these things that need to be done right off
to Hannity:

A) Strengthen nuclear non proliferation treaties.

B) Strengthen United Nations inspections.

C) Strengthen chemical weapons and biological weapons treaties and
inspections.

D) Isolate rogue states.

That is where time was up and the interview ended. As Clark started
mentioning this list in answer to Hannity's question about the "wisdom" of Bush going
to war in Iraq, I thought I heard Hannity sigh in frustration under his
breath. Please check the tape for that if you taped the interview! Hannity was not
able to get another word in on Clark after Clark went down this list of
things that need to be done!

Clark maintained full credibility and composure of himself and he did not let
Hannity's stupid questions about trying to justify Bush and the Iraq war get
to him. Clark turned everything that Hannity said into his own brilliant
points and observations to the clear frustration of Hannity from what I could see!


This is why Clark being on FOX News is such as good thing. Clark had to have
made a very positive and credible impression to the many millions of moderate
and impressionable red state voters who happen to regularly watch FOX News!

I just wish that Clark had more time on FOX News to get his message across
because this is the right message from the right person at the right time......

Clark is above partisanship, he is completely credible, he does not mind if
people disagree with him on issues and he will not question their patriotism if
they do, and he stays right with the facts about what he is talking about....


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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:30 AM
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63. On yesterday's Hugh Hewitt Show, Hugh was going to get Clark but...
he asked the guys around him in the studio what they thought. One toadie piped up with "He has like 3 different stances on the war in Iraq"

Hugh decided not to try and interview Gen. Clark.


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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 04:02 PM
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65. Is that an AAR show?
I'm not familiar with it. Thank you.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 04:55 PM
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67. Never heard of it, myself...
anyone?

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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 12:24 AM
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70. No. He's a Rush Limbaugh wanna-be...right-wing talking head
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:02 AM
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64. Kick!
:kick:

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