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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 06:07 PM
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Best Possible Running Mates
Edited on Mon Dec-22-03 06:10 PM by liberalpragmatist
I'm going to go through and name some names for each of the candidates that would be ideal running mates for that candidate.

Howard Dean

Though others ridiculed me when I said it, I honestly believe that if Dean is the nominee, as appears likely, I expect Senator Jay Rockefeller of W.Va. to be his running mate. Why? He's extremely intelligent, with years of experience in domestic and foreign policy, comes from a key swing state/region, one of the strongest liberal records in congress, and opposition to the Iraq War Vote to boot. In many ways, he'd be absolutely ideal.

However, there are plenty of other good names, mostly in the Senate -- Dean will pick somebody from Congress who can help him work with Congress. These names include Senators Carl Levin of Michigan and Dick Durbin, both of whom would be absolutely great, especially Levin, who was the chair of the armed forces committee. Joe Biden, and Bob Graham would also be good. However, Biden doesn't seem likely to stir much enthusiasm, and neither does Graham, who appears quite old and in relatively bad health. Don't forget that Graham is 68 years old. Somebody else floated the name of Bob Kerrey, former Sen. from Nebraska. He may be a good choice, but controversial. Certainly, they're both mavericks, and it would be an appealing ticket.

Wesley Clark

Clark has said he might name New York AG Eliot Spitzer his VP. That could work well with Clark, since there's geographic balance, and it would reinforce Democratic domestic positions, including heavy-handedness with corporations and Wall Street. However, he has no Washington experience, and that could be problematic. I think John Kerry would be an excellent pick for Clark -- two purple hearts, both excellent in foreign affairs, Kerry with a strong domestic record and could well potentially act as a "co-President" in dealing with Congress, at least for a few years. Otherwise, again, Levin, Rockefeller, and John Edwards could be good choices as well.

John Kerry

Just as a Clark/Kerry ticket would be good, a Kerry/Clark ticket would be excellent as well (actually this is the ticket I favor) - strong credibility in national security affairs, unite the prowar(ish) wing with the antiwar(ish) wing and stick it to the AWOL team of Bush/Cheney. John Edwards would be excellent as well.

John Edwards

Again, Clark is an excellent option for VP. Rockefeller, Levin, Graham are good choices with him as well, and Chris Dodd would be great, although a little bland. A number of former senators/elder statesment could work well too, including fmr. Sen. George Mitchell.

Dick Gephardt

John Edwards could be an ideal running mate for Gephardt, b/c ideologically they match quite well, both are basing their campaigns on working families, and there's good geographic balance. Durbin would be another excellent choice, as would some governors. I can't think of many more names for Gephardt, but I'm sure there are plenty.

I could go through Lieberman's prospects, but at this stage, I'm getting sick of writing, and I don't want to -- it's a totally moot point, anyway.

Regarding some other VP candidates: Many people have mentioned Bill Richardson. I can see him as an excellent candidate, especially with Kerry, Gephardt, or Clark. However, others have more experience in Congress, and I think that it would probably be best to let him serve out some more years as governor - he's only into his 2nd this year. Some have mentioned Evan Bayh and while that's reasonable, I think the nominee will see the party's mood wanting someone more liberal than Bayh. He would have been a good running mate were Bush not the president, but he just doesn't draw a strong enough contrast. Many have also mentioned Mary Landrieu. I don't know -- she doesn't really have the presence to be President -- she isn't commanding or a particularly experienced or illustrious. Plus, she's quite conservative, co-sponsoring the cloning ban, for instance, and supporting the war, and Bush's tax cuts. As for Blanche Lincoln, eh, she's very nice, good senator, but she also isn't commanding nor does she have the record needed for president. Unfortunately, there just aren't too many realistic female prospects for vice president that I can see. Pelosi is needed in the house, and Hillary's definitely a potential nominee in '08 but would be far too divisive right now. We have a number of governors, but most of them have started only within the last 2 or 4 years, and the most presidential, Jennifer Granholm, is ineligible. Unfortunately, 2004 is not likely to be a year for a woman VP.

(on edit) Sam Nunn has been floated too, as a possibility. He'd bring strong national security credibility, and electorally, he'd be good. Like others, have said, he'd be a Democratic Dick Cheney. However, he was always a conservative Democrat, and he's increasingly so these days. He's a much more loyal Democrat than Zell Miller, without a doubt, but he may be ideological uncomfortable with the ticket, esp. if Dean's the nominee. One troubling aspect is that he's a notorious homophobe, author of "don't ask don't tell" and he didn't want to allow gays in the military at all -- that was his compromise. I'm not sure what his position on abortion is.
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morgan2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 06:12 PM
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1. CMB
would make a great vp for any of the candidates.
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 06:15 PM
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2. I'm not sure
WAY too much baggage -- it doesn't matter how well she defends herself from it, she couldn't even win reelection in Illinois, and many in that state consider her a crook, whether or not she's guilty. She's very well spoken, and I hope she gets a cabinet post or something, but I just don't think she's a realistic prospect for VP. It's too bad. Had she not screwed up her senate career so badly, she could have been credible.
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savior93 Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 06:25 PM
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3. depends
well i think it depends on you. if you have short legs chose somebody who has short legs. if you got long ones pick someone with long ones. however, you could always just run with people who like you. that way you just naturaly stay together.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 07:33 PM
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4. Dean/Clark is a winner.
They will be #1 and #2 in the primary. What Dean lacks in foreign policy (i.e. waging war) will be countered by Clark's prodigous ability and experience. Vice versa for domestic issues.

That's discounting the recent VP flap.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 08:38 PM
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5. 4 candidates are missing. N/T
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DaisyUCSB Donating Member (455 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 08:49 PM
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6. has anyone brought up Clark-Graham?
that's the ticket my polici/history professors say the GOP want least

When you think about it it makes sense, Graham doesn't outshine him, and cancels out all his potential weaknesses, as well as making the opposition work just as hard in the south as in the midwest and west(unlike the 3 northern loser dems of the past).
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Kathleen04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 10:12 PM
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7. Good post..
Alot of people are bringing up Bob Graham on different tickets, mostly Dean or Clark at the top, and the idea just doesn't excite me. It could possibly bring us Florida, but we also run the risk of looking like we're too obsessed with the past. In my opinion, picking Bob Graham isn't looking at the bigger picture and seeing as he is getting older, not far enough into the future.

My favorite ticket would be Clark/Edwards. A strong southern ticket. John Edwards is very personable and would be an asset on the campaign trail. He brings more energy to the campaign than Graham. He would bring his Senate experience and (seeming) youth to the ticket. He's an great presidential candidate now, but in the large field--he just isn't getting the attention he deserves and people are saying he's "too young" or "inexperienced", but after 8 years in the White House as VP, he would make an excellent candidate in '12.
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GBD4 Donating Member (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 10:43 PM
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8. FL is where it's at
Bob Graham or Bill Nelson . . . winning FL takes a big load off our shoulders, Nelson's won 3 statewide races, Graham has won 5, so I think they would be strong enough to swing the state to the Democrats

Bill Nelson: former US House member, current US Senator, former Columbia astronaut and former chair of House Space Subcommittee, member of Senate Foreign Relations Committee and Senate Armed Services Committee

Bob Graham: you already know everything about this guy :)
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mb7588a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 10:45 PM
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9. Female VP Options
I posted a few ideas a while back, but I have since forgotten all of them.

Jeanne Shaheen (Fmr. Gov. NH)
Katherine Kennedy Townsend (Fmr. Gov. MD)
Mary Landrieu (Sen. LA)
Diane Fienstien (Sen. CA)
Janet Napolitano (Gov. AZ)
Ruth Ann Minner (Gov. DE)

I think Fienstien or Townsend are the best of this bunch... someone like Napolitano from a swing state would be good though. I don't know anything about her.
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GBD4 Donating Member (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 11:03 PM
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10. Landrieu is probably best
Napolitano was just elected in 02, so I'm not so sure she's ready for prime time

Minner is from a state with 3 electoral votes that will vote Dem anyway

Feinstein is from a state that should be voting Dem already

Townsend is a former Lt Gov that lost her bid for Gov to a Repub - in Maryland no less!

Shaheen couldn't win the Senate race, but she did seem to be extremely popular as gov...she's also from a tiny state but the state is a swing state that we need to win

Landrieu seems like the best option of the female candidates, nine electoral votes, my concern is it took her a runoff to win a Senate race so she's not overwhelmingly popular despite her family name and her incumbent status

Lincoln and Stabenow also come to mind
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 08:53 PM
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13. CMB
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 02:59 AM
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15. I will officially register as independent if Townsend is VP...
I'll still hold my nose and vote for the dem for the sheer interest of beating Bush. The woman went on a national campaign to ban dodgeball in schools!!! It's not only wrong, it's the biggest waste of energy I've ever seen.
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 05:21 AM
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16. Maxine Waters
She rocks
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jsw_81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 05:55 AM
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11. Maria Cantwell
I'm somewhat biased since she's my senator, but I think Maria Cantwell would be an outstanding candidate for national office. Maybe not in 2004, but someday.
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Deesh Donating Member (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 06:48 PM
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12. Possible VP nominees
Just a few names to consider:

Congressman Harold Ford of Tennessee

Former President Jimmy Carter

PBS News Analyst Bill Moyers
--he'd rip Cheney in any debate

Former GA Senator Max Cleland

Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee of Texas





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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 02:56 AM
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14. My dad says whoever wins should pick John Corzine...
So that their slogan can be "Vote for us, we won't ask you for a dime in campaign controbutions because we don't need to".
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