FOX News Bashing Clark, criticizing Dean, calling Kerry presidential

[Melodybe]

If there is any doubt that the GOP wants Kerry, I beg to differ.

Clark, Dean, and to a lesser extent Edwards frighten them.

If Kerry wins NH and Dean is third I am throwing my support behind Edwards/Clark.

I don't trust Kerry.

[bicentennial_baby]

1. I'm with you

:toast:

[adamrsilva]

2. They want Kerry

He's a "Massachusetts liberal" they can bring out an old-school playbook on. They think they can do that to Dean too, but they also feel there's a possibility he's different enough to be a wildcard. They fear Clark and Edwards the most.

[Renew Deal]

5. That's exactly correct.

[Valjean]

29. Skull & Bones

Faux must have gotten a memo from the WhiteHouse. They want a Bonesman.

[Printer70]

3. Fox dislikes Dean and Clark

Because they have expressed fairly liberal positions. And they consider any Democrat general to be a turncoat.

[Renew Deal]

4. I partly agree.

I think Kerry is a big, slow, boring, NE liberal. He will get roasted.

[KittyWampus]

6. No! Get Out! They're Pumping Up Kerry & Trashing Clark

with more venom then I've ever witnessed against Clinton.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm

Things that make a thinking person THINK TWICE.

[trumad]

8. They want Dean..No wait, they want Clark, No wait

they want Lieberman...But..But...they want Edwards, but yesterday it was Gep, and tomorrow it will be Sharpton... Does anybody really give a fuck who the Pukes and Faux want... We'd beat their ass with Sponge Bob Squarepants!

[Clark4Prez]

13. I love your picture

It moved me to tears, it a sad legacy that Bush Jr. has left.

[KittyWampus]

28. Well, Since The Media Handed Arnold California-

you are damned right I care if they are using the public air waves to manipulate the voting public.

Are you going to deny the poison that is emanating from the mass media towards Clark?

This is orchestrated and deliberate.

And people DO succumb to psychological warfare.

[blm]

7. Then answer this...Why did they declare Kerry's candidacy dead for months

assuring his fundraising would dry up?

Why was Dean given all the positive press for so long while they ignored Kerry and the others for most of last year?

[Melodybe]

15. The man morgaged his own house to stay in the race!

His candidacy was dead.

Exactly what positive press for Dean are you talking about, cause almost everything I heard about the man was he can't beat Bush, he can't beat Bush! Oh, he hates the caucus system and insults Iowans, he took corperate money (to give to charity), he is obviously insane for criticizing our fearless leader, he's too angry, too angry, he supports wife beating, he wants to get rid of medicare, he wants to tax only the middle class, he is getting his stormers to vote in the caucuses, he called the established democrats cockroaches etc,etc, etc.

Kerry is the one they want cause he is the only one they can beat.

[blm]

20. Wrong. Very wrong. Kerry is the one man who has

exposed more of the government corruption in the Reagan and Bush years than ANY other lawmaker. Many of those people are now in this Bush administration.

Kerry can connect the crimes in BCCI and IranContra to 9-11. Kerry wrote the book on terror and its international funding in 1997, The New War.

Kerry has Joe Wilson on his team.

You really think he is the one they want to face?

[maddezmom]

18. Faux hates every Dem

and will use any chance they get to smear our candidates. Next week if Kerry wins NH they will be back to trashing him.

[lovedems]

9. That was the feeling I had watching all of the Sunday morning

talking heads. The media wants to hand the chimp Kerry on a silver platter.

It was never so obvious as it was today. It wasn't just faux, it was all of them.

[jeter]

37. Oh please. You guys get a grip

This is what the media always does. They don't want to give anyone on any silverplatter. Kerry won. All the assumptions that had been made was thrown out the window. Now they are relooking at the whole thing with Kerry as the potential nominee.

When Dean was doing well...the media was talking up his "inevitability." Now its Kerry. If Clark does something crazy like winning the New Hampshire primary, then next week it will be about Clark being "inevitable."

That's the way it is. It's not a conspiracy.

[gulliver]

10. I agree. They want Kerry. n/t

[JasonDeter]

11. !!!!!!!!!!!!????????? Kerry is just as trustworthy as the rest AND

the republicans know from the polls that bush* can be beat by Kerry, Clark, Edwards and even Dean. Hell even lieberman is 1 point below bush* in national polls going head to head. So

GO KERRY!
GO CLARK!
GO EDWARDS!
GO DEAN!

[OKNancy]

12. Is it too crude to say...

Fuck Faux
Fuck the Republicans
and Screw anyone who believes the cocksuckers

[Clark4Prez]

16. It's important not to hold back on your feelings

How do you really feel, OKNancy?

I loved your post, fuck'em, fuck'em all!!

[Jerseycoa]

23. OKNancy is a pip!!

:bounce:

[maddezmom]

25. words to live by OKNancy

:toast:

[blm]

33. OKNancy...is that you?????

You naughty girl.

[OKNancy]

36. Yes the demure Miss Nancy

but I just hate Republicans!

[AntiCoup2K4]

14. The PNAC network endorses the PNAC candidate.

Why would that surprise anyone? :shrug:

[teach1st]

17. Republicans can't bash Kerry much...

...as long as Dean and Clark are around. If those two drop, Kerry will get the brunt of the Republican attack.

[gardenista]

19. My personal barometer

(my darling Mom, who watches too much tv), has suddenly abandoned Clark for Kerry.

I think it's because she thinks Kerry's wife is prettier. Sigh....

Then she wondered aloud whether she was French because she's a snappy dresser, and has an accent. (Mom's a closet Fox junkie, but a good woman, and a lifelong Dem.)

Dad, though, is a stalwart for Clark, with a newfound respect for Dean, as he weathers the storm.

All in all, I'd say that the TV media is being rather successful with undecideds, if this is the goal.

As a Dean supporter, I'm on board unless I feel the campaign is not responding to reality, and getting too insular, as I fear it did in Iowa. I think everybody learned an important lesson after Iowa.

Despite all of the media whoring for Kerry, we may still be surprised at the NH results.

(Just a bunch of random thoughts)

[Hawkeye-X]

21. Translation

Kerry is a easy peasy candidate to beat. RNC has tons o' shit and Kerry barely can afford to fight back.

Dean is the true candidate that really and truly is feared by RNC because Dean can attract from all over, including true blue conservatives, Liberterians and those who truly despite *.

Hawkeye-X

[Democrats unite]

22. There you have it Fair and balanced from Faux news.

eom

[worldgonekrazy]

24. Don't abandon Dean after NH

I am with you 100% on everything you say here, but abandoning Dean after a NH loss (even third place finish) would be foolish, IMO. He could still easily mount a comeback, especially because Kerry will be hit hard in the South (IMO).

[HootieMcBoob]

26. Clark is their very worst nightmare

It's as simple as that.

[anti-NAFTA]

27. I'm REALLY confused about this

AOL Time Warner is financing Kerry. FOX is AOL's rival. Why would they be supporting the same candidate? Then again, FOX has been praising Kerry for the past month or so. I used to think it was to trick us into nominating Dean because we do whatever they tell us not to do, but now that Dean's campaign is suffering as it is I really don't know what to think.

[JPJones]

30. I've been saying this for a while...

I listen to the right wing radio shows sometime as oppo research, and I've been struck that for the last two weeks, O'Reilly, Glen Beck and Hannity have all been saying, "Democrats, here's some free advice, Kerry is your man. The last person you want is Weasley Clark."

After the fifth or sixth time I heard this, I wondered if they have the goods on Kerry.

[in_cog_ni_to]

40. BINGO!

Right there tells you who the GOP fears the most and it isn't Kerry. No DOUBT they have dirt on Kerry. Tons of it. PLUS.....

He's a member of the Skull and Bones.

He voted FOR the IWR.

He voted for "The Patriot Act.

He's a member of the Skull and Bones.

He voted FOR the IWR.

He voted for "The Patriot Act.

He's a member of the Skull and Bones.

He voted FOR the IWR.

He voted for "The Patriot Act.

He's a member of the Skull and Bones.

He voted FOR the IWR.

He voted for "The Patriot Act.

He's a member of the Skull and Bones.

He voted FOR the IWR.

He voted for "The Patriot Act.

He's a member of the Skull and Bones.

He voted FOR the IWR.

He voted for "The Patriot Act.

[progressivebydesign]

31. Here's the rundown of how the GOP will play this..

Okay. It does seem that the media is pushing Kerry down our throats right now. Doesn't make sense, does it? He's polling well against Bush, he looks "presidential" according some people.. why in the hell are they helping a guy THEY think can kick Bush's ass, and has some poll numbers to prove it. Just as Bush plans to hand over the keys to Iraq in time for a 4th of July photo op.. they have more insidious plans for Kerry.

Here it is. The mindset of the GOP/media. It's been reported here and other places that Hannity, and some others have a "bombshell" about Kerry that will come out against him. (I have no idea what they consider a bombshell, probably something bullshit, but bear with me). Anyhoo... Here's the scenario that is haunting me. They talk up Kerry, continue to bash the other Democrats to neutralize them. Kerry gets the nomination. They drop their "bombshell" after it's too late for another candidate to get the nod from the Democrats. Even if it's something minor, they will play up this supposed "bombshell" for all it's worth. I think that they think it's a winning strategy. Because... Kerry appears to be the most dangerous opponent to Bush at the moment, based on the GOP and media polls, why the hell would they want him to get the nomination. THat is how I think their little minds work. The only thing that they can't count on is that what they consider a "bombshell" may get little or no notice by the voters. Politics as usual.

Or..maybe the media doesn't know what the hell they're doing right now, and it's Kerry's day to get nice-nice from them.

[Loren645]

32. :) It's just not *presidential* to criticize or vote against the Resident

Is it?

[blm]

34. Yes it is. Conason thinks so.

Kerry Shows Courage In Challenging Bush
Thursday, August 8, 2002 By: Joe Conason

New York Observer

>>>>>>
But it was John Kerry who delivered the most interesting, substantive and challenging message. His subject was George W. Bush's shortcomings as a world leader.

The New York Times reported that Mr. Kerry "offered a long attack on Mr. Bush's foreign policy," although the paper gave short shrift to the details in the Senator''s speech. What he began to articulate was a Democratic critique of this administration''s blunt and myopic unilateralism, and a vision that restores international alliances to the center of American diplomacy.
>>>>>>
He is, however, no naïïve internationalist who abhors military force. As he has done before, Mr. Kerry wondered aloud why the President didn't muster sufficient firepower in Afghanistan to destroy Al Qaeda''s army when the chance arose at Tora Bora.
>>>>>>>>>
There is, however, at least one benefit for Mr. Kerry in speaking out on those faraway places and problems. While his rivals sound as if they''re campaigning for the offices they already occupy, he sounds as if he is running for President.
>>>>>>>>>
Whether Mr. Kerry can engage the electorate in a discussion of America''s global responsibilities is far from certain. His own dispassionate style may hinder him. Yet he deserves great credit for reclaiming international leadership for his party when others cannot or will not.

****************************************

And here is how Dean responded to Russert showing clips of Kerry attacking Bush's leadership:

 MR. RUSSERT: Do you believe the military operation in Afghanistan has been successful?
       
       GOV. DEAN: Yes, I do, and I support the president in that military operation.
       
       MR. RUSSERT: The battle of Tora Bora was successful?
       
       GOV. DEAN: I’ve seen others criticize the president. I think it’s very easy to second-guess the
       commander-in-chief at a time of war. I don’t choose to engage in doing that.

[Upfront]

35. Says it all.

Kerry is a sure to lose and Rove knows it, so of course Fox backs Kerry. Kkk Karl is scared shitless of Dean and Clark.

[THUNDER HANDS]

38. I think they fear Edwards most, Kerry second and Clark third

Dean would be a wet dream to them, IMO.

[drfemoe]

39. Why would you drop Dean for 3rd place in NH?

Is he your current preference? Why? Is that going to change if the places 3rd in NH?

Listen, I've learned to tune out *B*'s irritating verbage (sic).
After hearing Kerry a few times in the last couple of days, I don't think I could ever train my ears to tune out that sanctimonious inflection. UGH