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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 07:36 AM
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Lyndon Baines Bush
White House spokesman Scott McClellan, speaking Thursday, said Bush realizes that Americans are concerned about the war, "and that's why he's going to sharpen his focus, spending more time talking about the progress that's being made on the ground."

CNN
Facing lagging support, Bush defends war in Iraq
June 18, 2005

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Acheson and the other wise men advised to launch a public relations campaign. They felt that if he could impart to the public the progress they had learned of in the secret briefings, he would be able to slow down the erosion of support. The president's appointments secretary, who kept a record of the Wise Men's meeting, summed up the advice of McGeorge Bundy, currently president of the Ford Foundation and a member of the group: "Emphasize the 'light at the end of the tunnel' instead of battles, deaths and danger."

Neil Sheehan
A Bright and Shining Lie


At Billmon......history repeats itself:

http://billmon.org/
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 08:04 AM
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1. Be the Candidate a D Or An r...
...I will NEVER vote to put a Texan (or a "Texan") in the White House!

In my lifetime, 3 presidents from texas + 3 wars either started or highly escalated. No Thanks!
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 08:40 AM
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3. I think deep down LBJ was a good man
He initiated some of the greatest social reforms we've ever seen. I think he was just at the wrong place at the wrong time and made the wrong decisions. I certainly wouldn't have wanted to be him.
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 03:55 PM
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7. All of What You Say is True!
Without Vietnam, LBJ may have been considered a great president and certainly been re-elected in '68. Alas.

I still ain't votin' fer no Texan!
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 08:09 AM
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2. Bush** doesn't have any wise men
But he has a totally sycophantic media....

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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 09:28 AM
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4. "Progress that's being made on the ground ..." Eh, Scottie?
One step forward .. three steps backward. Just like the 'Nam. But then Bu$h doesn't know anything about that fiasco either.

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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 10:18 AM
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5. Son-of-a-bitch that Johnson was, he gave a damn and cared about people
He was a ham-fisted apparatchik, and probably the best legislator to ever become president. Deeply understanding the dynamics of our very flawed system, he played it like a virtuoso with a fine instrument.

Civil rights were won at the expense of his political present and future, and the blinkered tough-guy approach to Vietnam ruined him.

This was a poor boy from nowhere who stood up and fought. Junior is a nobody from somewhere who cares about nothing but himself and the other fortunate people.

Kennedy gets most of the love from people, but that's sadly a function of being pretty and a star. Yes, he was brilliant and had his heart in the right place, too, but Johnson was the one who forced civil rights legislation through, and he was the one who fought to end poverty. Flawed though he was, he was a great man.

Junior is the most powerful nobody since Louis the Sixteenth. His hopes and dreams are all about himself. He's consumed with the vengeance craving of the third-rate, and he hasn't even a single scruple. May he live to be a hundred and twenty to fully experience his ignominy.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 10:37 AM
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6. Well put
For all his faults, Lyndon Johnson was a president, not a sock puppet. He made some wrong decisions but nobody told him what to do or say. He loved America, not power and money.

I remember Lyndon Johnson well. George Bush should pray every day to be 1/10th the man he was.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 04:14 PM
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8. GWB is not really a man he is a 5 yr. old child
Edited on Sun Jun-19-05 04:15 PM by goclark

Johnson was a MAN and intelligent.

He did a lot for poor people and he was liked by the little people.

I think the key to being a good president is "are you admired by the so called least among us."
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