Ed Schultz Dissed Dean and Now He's Threatening Me

[CAcyclist]

http://www.airamericaradio.com/contact.asp - I received the following threatening email from Ed Schultz after I complained about him dissing Dean. So I sent a copy to AAR and I asked them to replace his show with someone more progressive.

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From: "Ed Schultz" <[email protected]>
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Subject: RE: Email Ed
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:04:31 -0500
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You need to see a Doctor, soon. The last time I checked this was America
Women....your not telling me what to say, and I'm telling you what to
say.
GET IT....?

ED

-----Original Message-----
From:
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:46 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Email Ed

First Name: Dani
Last Name:
E-mail Address:
Zip Code: 94402
How Do You Listen To Ed: Local Station

Comments: Stop bashing Howard Dean!

My God, does Rush Limbaugh chastize Cheney when he tells people to go
fuck themselves?

I will refrain from any more profanity, but I will tell you that when
you said that Dean needed a handler, I had to turn the channel and it
was several days before I was ready to listen to AAR again. I think I
will keep your show turned off for a lot longer than that.

I am proud of Dean and he is speaking the truth. The Republican Party IS
monolithic and mostly white christian - even I didn't know how
monolithic they were until the media started reporting the actual
figures in response to Dean's statement - they are 82% white and
christian! That's pretty damn monolithic!

When you mouth right-wing talking points and do the republican hitjob
for them, what is the point of listening to you?

You should apologize to all of us and to Dean.

[redqueen]

Where's the threat? n/t

[redqueen]

1. oops ... deleted double post

[MattNC]

2. he's not a part of AAR n/t

[CAcyclist]

16. He plays on their stations

He may not be part of AAR, but his show is on their stations - they shouldn't run his show if he's going to be attacking our chair , not to mention his comments to me.

[MattNC]

40. they don't own those stations n/t

[kerrygoddess]

33. Your quote

Your quote is RFK - ""Some men see things as they are and say, 'Why?' I dream of things that never were and say, 'Why not?'"
Robert F. Kennedy, after George Bernard Shaw" http://www.rfkmemorial.org/RFK/rfk_quotes.htm.


It's a take on this quote from George Bernard Shaw:
""You see things; and you say, "Why?" But I dream things that never were; and I say, "Why not?" " - George Bernard Shaw (see: http://www.elise.com/quotes/quotes/shawquotes.htm & http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/g/george_bernard_shaw.html)

[NMDemDist2]

3. well, except Ed Schulz isn't on Air America Radio, he is with the Jones

Radio Network.

[hippiechick]

4. I don't see where he 'threatened' you ....

... he just fired off an obnoxious reply.

Tune him out, wait for his ratings to drop, and he'll go away soon enough.

[FreedomAngel82]

34. He said

he was going to tell the poster what to say. But they couldn't tell him what to say. Talk about an arrogant ass.

[Shoeempress]

5. Ed's an idiot. Local AAR channel has him from 3-6. I shut off the

radio and stream Randi.

[DURHAM D]

29. Same here - can't stand Ed. eom

[cliss]

60. Let's not forget - -

"Big" Ed is a former Rat-publican. I think he had a radio show for many years, spouting the other side. I call him "Ed Lite" because he takes such a milque-toast view of the progressive side.

And doesn't he sound just like Sylvester the Cat, in those old Warner Brothers cartoons?

[benburch]

6. Clearchannel owns his show.

And that wasn't a threat, that was an insult...

[markus]

70. Does Clear Channel own it?

He originates from a Clear Channel property (home of his former slot on KFGO-AM, the Mighty 790, in Fargo, ND.

But I thought he was just renting space and had his own gig going. I could email the oft-mentioned Homey, who used to live in my legislative district and with whom I used to have a smoke outside at Dem events.

Anyway, it's just Ed being Ed.

[Atman]

7. Was that response written by a 12 year old?

The grammatical and structural errors are downright comical. Who is this guy? Is he supposed to be a professional somebody?

Oh, and I don't see a threat either. Just a poor comeback from an obvious jerk.

[spooky3]

10. yes--and sexist, but not threatening

[DemBeans]

25. yes, the sexism really jumps out

The "woman" comment was totally uncalled for, like you're just an insignificant little female whose concerns can be easily brushed off.

I guess you're just lucky he didn't club you and drag you by the hair to his cave. What a jackass this guy comes off as.

[Arugula Latte]

32. The spelling/grammar is atrocious.

That told me a LOT about Schultz. I always thought that guy wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed. This helps confirm that.

I never listen anymore. When he comes on, I switch over to music.

[FreedomAngel82]

35. He used to be rightwing

and then I guess he "saw the light" and became a "progressive." I've listened to him once but he's wayyy to conservative for me. Plus he had Harold Ford junior on his show who manipulated what Dean said recently. That pissed me off. I tried listening to him once but no way. I'll stick to Rhandi if I am to listen to anything at that point in time.

[Mad_Dem_X]

53. That's the first thing that caught my eye (bad spelling)

I could barely understand what he trying to say...I still don't think I understand it completely.:crazy:

[nadinbrzezinski]

8. Jones Radio Network some AAR afiliates carry the show

but he is NOT AAR...

by the way, there is no clear threat, but I agree I have stopped listenign to Ed...

I don't agree with him, but here is teh shock I don't agree with randi all the time or Mike Malloy... so to a point he has a point.

[Pirate Smile]

9. I don't see any threat and I bet he simply forgot to include a "not"

in the last phrase i.e. your not telling me what to say and I'm (not) telling you what to say.

[CAcyclist]

19. No, I don't think he forgot the "not"

I view the all caps GET IT? as a threat.

[ElectroPrincess]

24. Schultz is a Moran ... write him off ... he'll fade soon enough :-)

[leveymg]

11. Nothing stings worse than the truth.

Got 'em right where it hurts, Dani. Now, put the nice imbecile down. :+ :mad:

[BlueEyedSon]

12. Wow, his grammar is freeper-iffic! You will need to address your

compaint to you local station, he is not an AAR personality.

[CAcyclist]

22. Ok, I'll do that. The local station is the SF station, the Quake nt

[BlueEyedSon]

13. "If you're criticizing Dean, you're a REPUBLICAN."

--Randi Rhodes

[KittyWampus]

14. You're Either With Dean Or Against Dean.

[CAcyclist]

15. Yahh for Randi Rhodes!nt

[ISUGRADIA]

20. I never like this type of vacant arguement

it's like "If you're criticizing the President, you're a TERRORIST"

[downwitbush]

21. hmmm...

so I'm suddenly a republican if I don't agree with Dean?

That aint right. He's just not my favorite person and I think there are better choices for leader of democrats. OK, Ed's comments were off and that e-mail was really poor. However, not agreeing with one person doesnt' mean my IDEALS have changed. I still hate republicans way more than i dislike dean.

[movonne]

17. Stop listening to him...I could never get with him, too repub light for

me and sounds too much like limpballs..

[seabeyond]

18. I'm telling you what to say....get it

wow, if that isnt a turn off. that gets a fuck you to ed

[MindPilot]

23. Man, that response is grammatically worthy of MORAN status

He's not even very good at insults let alone threats.

Big Ed, big dumb Ed.
Big Ed, big gone Ed.

[meppie-meppie not]

26. Ed's response: Obtuse, yes. Threatening, no.

[Botany]

27. Lighten Up .......

..... i agree that Dr. Dean was right in saying what he did. But Ed Schultz
has every right to express his thoughts on his show. Back off and look @ the
BIG PICTURE real Americans have one core thought and that is, "I disagree w/
what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

Dr. Dean has agreed to go one on one w/ Schultz @ at a town meeting on
national radio show ..... what is the harm?

Sure Ed is a little bit of a "snake oil salesman" but it his show and he can
say what he wants ....... Overall he helps our side ....... BIG PICTURE.


BTW if you have a problem call his show and talk about why you think he is wrong.

also their was no threat there.

[katinmn]

28. You were both very rude.

And you started it.

You're not going to get anyone to change their opinion by attacking them.

If I'd gotten your letter accusing him of using right wing talking points -- the highest insult possible -- I would have been angry, too.

I've listened to Ed Schultz now and then. Most times he's okay and sometimes he's been pretty good. He makes some bad calls. Who doesn't?

[DenaliDemocrat]

30. I like Ed Schultz

He reminds me of the old Labor Democrat coal miners, grocery workers, and steel workers I grew up around. If there is no room for Ed Schultz, there is no room for me.

(edit) I also like Howard Dean. If we do not allow some dissention and difference of opinion, and all walk in lockstep, that makes us .....REPUBLICANS!!!!!!!:D

[aTm_exrugger]

45. I agree

One thing that irritates me about Randi is that she will not let a caller finish his sentence. Even if it is a freeper and you can tear im down in an instant, let him finish. I hate how RushHannityOreilly does it, and i don't like how our side does it. Eddie on the other hand does try to justify himself a little too much (I KNOW HE FISHES/HUNTS, don't say it every 15 minutes.) But his show seems a little more easier to listen to.

Matt
Mundus Vult Decepi

[LaPera]

48. YES! Fucking moderates at the very least. Am I wrong?

[LaPera]

49. Fuckhead Schultz, republican Shill!!

Without a doubt!

Sorry, clowns!

[DrGonzoLives]

58. As do I

Since, you know, I grew up around that kind of person. And to some extent I agree with him about Dean.

I guess I'm really a Republican right-wing bigot fundamentanzazi. I better go change my voter registration.

[Adelante]

31. No threat there

You were rude to him and he was rude back to you.

[Protagoras]

59. Yup, no threat, just a lot of immaturity

and rudeness. Nothing approaching a dialogue on either side. That's why two people spitting at each other seldom come to agreement.

[Neshanic]

36. Talk sports. Take call. Say obvious. Talk sports. Talk fishing.

Early on he was tolerable. Now he is in the groove. Listen to his show and he follows a very specific language and path.

Gets buddy with the sports talk, fishing, basketball, other inane stuff. Then he will take a call. If the caller is friendly, he will then finish the call and say the most generic about the republicans. Bad. Bad. If the caller questions him in any way, say a "far left person", he goes into the "entertainer, this is about money and having fun" schtick.

Listen next time. He never commits to the point that pigboy does, and he skates that edge ever so deftly.

He's believing his own press. Sorry Big Eddie, that down-home spiel only works so long when you don't get a little deeper, than say a water dish for your hound dawg.

[LibDemAlways]

56. You've got his number.

When a caller is particularly knowledgable, his auto response is "I appreciate the call" followed by a hang-up. He's not interested in a meaningful discussion. Also thinks Lieberman and Daschle represent Dems, and has even given airtime recently to Howie the whore Kurtz. Generally clueless.

[cindyw]

37. Um, I don't see how he threatened you and as I have learned from Deanies,

it is the duty of a Dem to say that they are not happy with their leaders. Don't mix Ed up with those who criticized Dean for his words. Ed criticized him for not being out there and last time I checked the next thing Dean did was get there. So really, what is the problem?

[Cha]

47. Uhmmmm..ed schultz

was also having an on air conniption fit about Dean not raising enough money..getting his talking points from "business week" it sounded like.

His obnoxious rant turned me right off.

I like Mike Malloy..he knows what's up.

[Ioo]

38. Ed is not on AAR...

He is on XM's AAR channle, but he is not on AAR. He is part of Al Gores thing if I recall

AAR is
Rachel
Marc and MArk
Al
Randi
Sam and Geneene
Mark

that is the AAR weekday lineup. ED IS NOT PART OF IT, SO PLEASE DON'T CRUSH THEM....

[bunny planet]

68. You forgot Springer.

[Politicub]

39. All your base are belong to us!

Ed is a little free and easy with his email. He comes across as a buffoon.

[friesianrider]

41. Actually Ed, I don't get it.

He's borderline incoherent and can't spell. Your = possessive. You're = (shorthand for) you are.

Get it, Ed?

[zulchzulu]

42. Ed is correct again

You are silly if you think such gibberish. Please don't respond. I have you on the best feature DU provides...

Saying such GARBAGE that Republicans are a monolithic Christian party is utterly wrong on a few points.

1. It's wrong to assume that. It also wreaks of thinking that Christians are "bad" people. Maybe you're just out of touch with America, but there are indeed Christians who HATE Bush, have been Democrats for generations, are progressive politically and are even for "gay marriage" in some cases. To paint Christians as bad is as insipid as anything that spews from Rush or the other RW punditry's pieholes.

2. It doesn't help that Dean says such stupid SHIT about Christians at a time when he's supposed to be going after the Christian vote (see 1. for clues).

As a consistent volunteer for DFA locally, I get pretty mad at Dean for saying crap like he has recently...it undermines our efforts and changes the subject to "It's all about Dean".

Fuck that. When Dean strays off into GaffeVille, I wonder if he's a Repug stooge.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

51. Oh Please...

The guy wins multiple elections as a Democratic governor, energizes the Democratic base in the primaries like nobody has done in a generation (only loses the nomination because of a media hit-job), runs for DNC Chair and raises more money than any previous chairman in a non-election year.

And you think he's a Republican Stooge?

I'd like to have several busloads of these stooges in leadership positions in the Democratic Party.

[Political Pulpit]

55. Democrats are behind in fund raising

Democrats are way behind the Republicans in the money-raising department right now. It takes money to win elections, and if the Republicans can out-spend you, then it makes it that much harder.

I like Dean. I know what he is trying to say -- even when he misspeaks by leaving a key word out in the middle of a statement.

[Larkspur]

61. The DNC is 70% ahead of their 2003 fundraising effort

This is a non-national election year, so you need to compare apples to apples, not apples to RNC caviar.

The DNC raise $8.7 million in 2003. The DNC has raised so far in 2005 $18-19 million.

And if you want to continue to compare the DNC fundraising to the RNC's, then you need to be fair and compare the 2003 DNC & RNC fundraising stats.

[Carolab]

43. I got much the same reaction, and he called me an idiot.

So, screw him.

[snowbear]

44. Geez... sorry you don't like Big Eddie..

Even Howard Dean gave him HUGE kudos recently after Eddie relayed some suggestions to him that Dean said were super beneficial to him.. :hug:

But please.. don't ask me what all Eddie suggested :dunce: ...I didn't transcribe the interview.. It started out a little on the tough side.. then Eddie calmed down and they had a great conversation together.

Dean told Ed that all he ever hears is how he =HAS= to on Big Eddie's Show. He promised him he'd make arrangements to do that soon! ~~~~~ :bounce:

I've received e-mails back from him in the past (but not for almost a year now!!!) He's so busy now that I'm surprised he has the time to respond.. I know for sure his staff read his e-mail, but geez... they even take a day or two to respond back. Eddie himself though.. wow..

I'm surprised too that he had typos.. He's a pretty articulate guy!

And I guess I'm in the minority as far as responders here go.. but I really like Eddie.. I like Dean :shrug: and I like Eddie.. :shrug:

I can't wait until Dean is on Eddie's show!! :hug: :)
- - - - - - - - - - - - -

Oh! Edit... I should say.. I can't wait until Dean is on Eddie's show "IN THE STUDIO IN ND" ... (he was on the show via phone last time)

[Political Pulpit]

46. Ed is just a plain-talker, that's all...

There are only five people who work on the Shultz show. Usually it is his wife, Wendy, who deals with the email. But I am surprised that anyone took the time to respond at all.

Do I see a threat? No, just a way of saying that you are entitled to your opinion, and he is entitled to his. I suppose it probably could have been worded a little better, but when you get hundreds of emails to read, there isn't much chance to be really all that articulate in a response.

I don't think that Ed has any real problems with Dean other than until lately, Dean has been operating under the radar. Ed feels that Dean should be out front more, but when he is, that maybe he should choose his words a little better.

We all know what Dean MEANT when he made his comments, but the way they came out it could have been construed in several different ways, and that was where the the issue was.

As far as having a "handler", most people in the public spotlight have "handlers". It is so easy to spout something out without stopping to think how that comment is going to be attacked by people. I don't think that Ed was saying anything more than Dean needs to be able to minimize the exposure for attacks.

The progressive tent is a large one, and there is room for people like Ed. I don't agree with him on several things, but he is able to speak the language of those people in the red and rural areas, and that is something progressives need.

I live here in Seattle, and I went to see Ed today, because I want to support the whole idea of progressive radio. Ed is on live here, while Randi Rhodes is delayed three hours. Personally, if I were the program director of AM 1090 here in Seattle, I would play Randi live and delay Ed's show because I think that Randi plays better in urban areas. Keep Ed live in the Rural areas where he does the most good for progressives.

[Adelante]

62. Interesting post

I've only heard the show a couple of times, but one thing I noticed the other day was a trucker calling in from the road. I remember thinking what a good thing it was there was a guy like Ed who can reach working people with a message that isn't Rush Limbaugh's. Ed Schultz seems to be a great asset in that way. Again, I'm not that familiar with the show, just a reaction I had one recent day.

Actually, I don't listen to any of them on a regular basis, because the screaming and yelping gives me a headache. What ever became of conversation?

Nice post :hi:

[IdaBriggs]

50. I think it was a mis-type.

It looks like he missed the second "not" as in --

"your not telling me what to say, and I'm NOT telling you what to
say."

which is a pretty common expression. At least he responded to you.

[Tracer]

52. Shultz's voice sounds too much like ...

... Limbaugh's!!

That's one of the reasons I rarely listen to him (other than the fact that he's altogether too impressed with himself).

[Panda1]

63. Agreed

WAY too much like Limbaugh's disgusting voice for my tastes. Plus, I don't like what he has to say. Give a REAL progressive his spot on the air. He's a pompous windbag.

[Larkspur]

54. Ed is on Framingham, MA's AAR station and Ed is a DLC clown supporter

and the DLC is the first line of defense for Repukes. I end up rolling my eyes at Ed's willingness to regurgitate Repuke talking points.

I prefer Stephanie Miller and the Boys of Morning Sedition. I like Randi Rhodes but she needs to let her guests do most of the talking. She can rant when she doesn't have guests.

[Tracer]

57. Oy!

Randi needs to shut up! about her menopausal symptoms.

[ArkDem]

64. Why is Dean threatening you?

[Carolab]

71. You have it wrong. It's SCHULTZ, not Dean, they were talking about.

Jeez. Howard doesn't "threaten". He's a really sweet guy.

[bunny planet]

65. Go to Air America's website. Ed Shultz is not an employee of AAR.

Stations that carry some AAR talent, not all, also carry Shultz in some markets. Find out who his handlers are and complain to them.

[snowbear]

66. This thread SUCKS.. Just turn on Eddie, listen to Conyers, and

quitcher bellyaching CAcyclist ;)

:grouphug:

[chaska]

67. YOU BOTH MISSED THE POINT...

Forget the truth of whether what he said is true. Who cares? The point is not to publically kick the legs out from under your leadership. That's why Shultz is wrong.

I can only concluded that Shultz wants Dean out ... or that he's really not very bright ... or some combination of both.

As for the personal angle, get over it.

[Ian David]

69. I'm going to email Ed and ask him to berate me for being a dirty,dirty boy