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Ugnmoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 11:58 AM
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Dean's revenge
Despite the attempts of the DLC and the mainstream cabal to trash him it is pretty clear where the hearts minds and money of the "people" really are. Howard Dean has the balls to say in public what most of the party faithful are saying to each other and behind closed doors. How dare he speak the truth - it is so crass and politically incorrect! Dean is stepping on alot of toes and probably getting dangerously close to usurping the power brokers inside the beltway who have controlled the party for so many years. Dean wants to rebuild the party from the bottom up at the state level and truly return the party to the people. So what is going to be the outcome? I think in the end Dean will prevail - because ultimately money talks and bull shit walks. And Dean knows where the money is and has proven he knows how to get it. The only thing all of this media hype and party leader distancing has done is confirm to me how really corrupt and broken the two party system has become. I'm convinced that Dean will help to fix it, or a third major party will evolve.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 12:01 PM
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1. on a personal note
we NEED proportional Representation and clean money to truly clean up the system

I will start pushign for proportional and scream it from the rooftops, and you can bet your seeet ass that both parties will resist it
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Prodemsouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 12:08 PM
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3. I agree but you need to explain it to people. And you will have
red states were cows or sheep outnumber people argue that it will dilute the power. California, New York, and other large states should not be limited to two senators. I don't understand why the Democrats would resist it.
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jmaier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 12:11 PM
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5. I don't know perhaps it's a constitutional thing?
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 12:04 PM
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2. Good for him.
And if stepping on toes is not enough

KICK THEM IN THE NUTS
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 12:09 PM
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4. I am not sure about the inclusion of "white" but I like him screaming
He screams for me as well.

:kick:
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 12:17 PM
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6. Should also use "Dominionists" rather than "Christian."
No one should ever mistake warmongers and greedy rich men for Christians. Otherwise, go get'em Dean.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 12:53 PM
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8. Chris Shays
"The Party of Lincoln has now become the Party of Theocracy." Only difference is that he didn't specify WHICH Theocracy, but of course, everybody knows who he was talking about.

Why no outrage over that statement?
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Southsideirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 12:22 PM
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7. Tired, old "insider" establishment "dems" are his worst enemies and
always have been. They have to go.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 01:21 PM
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9. No, Republicans are his worst enemy
Old establishment Dems are just speed bumps.
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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 01:30 PM
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10. An accurate perspective nt
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 01:35 PM
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11. How many time did I watch Terry McAuliffe/DNC on CSPAN?
ZERO. Howard Dean/DNC is a different story. I will tune in because I want to know what he's going to say next. At the same time, I have the benefit of hearing the issues and actions. I'm not the only one. The media's paying attention too.

ALL GOOD.
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