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jmcon007 Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 02:25 AM
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If Bush and Cheney are impeached....we get Hastert!
And what if something happened to the turdmeister? Surely, not Delay.....he's going to jail, too. Would it be Dr. Genius, Frist.... you know, the guy who thinks you can get HIV through sweat?
How far down in the pecking order do we have to go to have someone who isn't floating around in lala land or psychopathic?
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 02:32 AM
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1. After Hastert is Sen. Ted Stevens of Alaska.
I think Hastert would be better than Bush at least.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 02:37 AM
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5. You're right on that, for sure.
Agreeable as I am, check my post out before but first put your :tinfoilhat: on.

:hi:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 03:05 AM
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9. Not if Hastert has time to pick a VP before he moves on n/t
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blogbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 02:33 AM
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2. Hear you but Republisnots are one in the same..As HIV it is a disease
(but mental)..
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 02:34 AM
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3. not in 2007

President Pelosi will rule with an iron fist. :D
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Goldeneye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 07:13 AM
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28. now that is a nice thought.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 02:35 AM
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4. Let me improve your mood. Excellent post, btw.
Edited on Fri May-27-05 02:36 AM by autorank
First, they get rid of Cheney because his closest aid is indited by Fitzgerald for lying in the Plame affair. Then they do a "Gerald Ford" like selection for VP to replace Cheney. Bush will want Falwell or something but he'll be told to take a moderate conservative that "everybody trusts." Then it's time for DeLay to get indited and some rokken stories about fraud in going to war with a dash (not too much because the seasoning is so hot) of election fraud stories. Oops, Bush is gone, "resigned" to be with the family. Then "trusted" VP becomes Prexy and gets to pic yet another VP, who will be, like him, a ringer placed there by unhappy factions of the power structure sick and tired of *'s insanity.

Your task, jmcon007 is to figure out how we insert our own choice as VP to replace Cheney. The answer is here and there. It's open book, so take your time. Extra rewards for creativity.

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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 03:00 AM
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7. Olympia Snowe
Moderate Republican, woman, establishment

Has stature in Washington, but no baggage....a "reconciliation" candidate.

Just throwing it out....
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jmcon007 Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 04:44 AM
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18. I'm for a Democrat all the way, but an Olympia Snow or
Lindsay Graham wouldn't cause me to lose sleep like this motley crew does.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 08:41 AM
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29. Now that's damn good. I hadn't thought of her. She is "retiring"
from the Senate. And a woman...
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jmcon007 Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 04:37 AM
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Ok, here goes.......but I didn't promise a pretty picture.
Bush resigns, Cheney takes over as Prez and pardons everyone who makes over a million dollars a year, brings Rumsfeld in as VP and Bolton as Defense Secretary with Condi as his personal aide (poetic justice). DeLay takes over as press secretary and Mclellan is assigned to Rose Garden landscaping. Ann Coulter is now press director.
Chalalibi is imported to run the FBI and Curveball will be Director of National Security.
All grocery stores will be summarily closed and food stuffs will be provided by Halliburton. (God, please, somebody stop me.....)

Seriously, open book or not, I don't know how we would get one of "ours" by Cheney and in as VP. I suspect you have an idea.
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jmcon007 Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 04:46 AM
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19. whoops...I have two press directors. That could be the starting
line of a good joke.
What do you get when you cross a Tom DeLay with an Ann Coulter?

Anyone have a punch line?
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 05:58 AM
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21. rush limbaugh in drag
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 08:43 AM
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30. LOL
:rofl:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 08:51 AM
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31. Oh, this is great! Are you related to Chuck Berris
Condi as Bolton's Secretary, yes, poetic and sadistic as well.

Fitzgerald indites some one so close to Cheney that Cheney is associated with the Plame leak. He also fears the indited one turning on him. They go to Cheney and say, look, no incitement if you leave. He leaves. This is how he goes. It's a modified Spiro Agnew scenario. If Cheney doesn't walk, he then is indited and gets to do the perp walk.

Now, to match your mind, Cheney resigns and Lynn Cheney is chosen as the Vice President. Bush falls off of his bike for the 20th time and is unable to move or talk. Lynn moves in and is the leader of us all. Her Western lesbian novel becomes mandatory reading in schools across America.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 07:07 AM
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26. In an unparallelled burst of "bipartisanship": Lieberman as VP!
The Senate is short one Democratic Senator--yes, he does vote Democratic sometimes. Bush is applauded for his wisdom in replacing poor Cheney, going out with "health" as an excuse--although the scandals are getting harder to ignore.

Then Bush leaves & President Leiberman provides pardons for all!
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queeg Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 02:48 AM
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6. Just remember the Clinton Impeachment
So clinton gets impeached, and Gore drops dead---there was no speaker of the house, so we got the President pro tem of the senate which was----drum roll



Strom Thurmond



So I'll take Denny any day of the week


hehe
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jmcon007 Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 04:19 AM
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12. Why in hell am I laughing so hard?! This ain't funny.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 03:02 AM
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8. Unless we change the Congress in 2006.
In which case it all looks a lot prettier.
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Is It Fascism Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 03:06 AM
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10. I think you are right. We have to impeach about 7 people to get honest.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 04:06 AM
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11. not necessarily
Edited on Fri May-27-05 04:07 AM by radfringe
flash back to Nixon-Agnew:

Agnew resigned - Nixon appointed Ford as VP
Nixon resigned - Ford took over and appointed Rockefeller as VP

soooo - if Bush is impeached/resigns first - Cheney takes over and appoints a new VP. Then if Cheney is impeached/resigns - the VP takes over and appoints a newer VP

----OR---

Then if Cheney is impeached/resigns - Bush appoints new VP, then if Bush resigns/impeached the "new VP" takes over and appoints a newer VP

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the only way Hastert would get the "big chair" is if both Bush AND Cheney were impeached/resigned or otherwise removed at the SAME TIME
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jmcon007 Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 04:20 AM
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13. true....good point.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 04:28 AM
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14. If we could oust these two, it wouldn't matter who "we got" end , *.*
Edited on Fri May-27-05 04:29 AM by orpupilofnature57
Binky the clown would look good after these two.
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chemp Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 04:35 AM
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15. Binky? Binky!??! His balloon animals SUCK!
He's not funny!
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 06:15 AM
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24. MY POINT, Binky sucks as much as a clown, As Shrub does as a
Leader.
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chemp Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 04:37 AM
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16. seriously...
We need to take the House in 2006, then force Bush out. It's the only way. The corrupt Regime won't allow impeachment if they control the House.
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jmcon007 Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 04:41 AM
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17. But we have to make the attempt at impeachment if for no
other reason than to force the nation to focus on Bush's high crimes and, also, force the media to cover it. At least he'll go into the history books as a disgrace to our nation.
Small penalty for causing so much death and destruction.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 05:56 AM
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20. take back the house
this would mean retaining the current 201 seats held by Dems and winning an additional 32 seats to gain a 1 seat majority...

it's a long shot IMHO. One thing working in the favor of gaining more seats is the growing disgust among voters regarding how things are going. There is a definite "throw the bums out" mentality emerging. HOWEVER - this can cut both ways, the "bums" people want to throw out may be Dems or Repugs, and the net result may be no different than we already have, just a switching of seats.

People are aware that both the Senate and House are controlled by repugs. One tactic may be to characterize the repugs as "rubber-stampers" - Rubbericans who are unable or unwilling to buck the neo-cons.

Another tactic or additional tactic would be to question who do the repugs really care about -- the country or continuing a radical-repug dominance which doesn't benefit people in general.

We know there are moderate repugs out there who are concerned about the radical right - yet they don't stand up and fight back -- they continue to drink their kook-aid and carry a rubberstamp. Those that do buck the neo-cons are "punished" and this keeps there rest of them singing with the neo-con chorus.

This may get me flamed - but what the hell.... the way to go may be for the Dems to reach out to the moderate republicans and get together on some game plan. This would mean changing the goal from Dem control of the house/senate to a goal of getting rid of the neo-con dictatorship


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ref:
http://www.natat.org/natat/WASH_REPORT_ISSUES/2005%20Wash%20Reports/washrep.Jan.Feb.2005.htm

The makeup of the new 109th Congress is:   

House of Representatives -- 232 Republicans; 201 Democrats; 1 Independent; 1 Vacancy

Senate --   55 Republicans;  44 Democrats;  1 Independent
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 06:11 AM
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23. True , the best We can hope to achieve is to Expose,Expose,Expose!!
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BrainRants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 06:02 AM
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22. If we take the House in '06 and impeach both, then Pelosi becomes Prez!
How cool would that be?
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 06:26 AM
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25. First thing, to get Bush & Cheney impeached, that would have to
involve a majority in the House. That would also involve the fact that Hastert would no longer be in control.

We would have to reclaim the House (and maybe the Senate) in the November 2006 elections. Wonder if Pelosi would be the one getting the head job then?

Anyway, we also would have to regain the supermajority in the Senate to convict (unlikely) them both.

If we had those scenarios, then we probably could run Bush & Cheney out of town - ONLY IF. If not, we end up looking like the Repubs in late 96 panicking because they lost ground in the 96 elections, and had to set the impeachment vote up before 1/3/1997.

To get this scenario, Bush & Cheney & the Repukes would really have to self-destruct totally, and the Dems would be running the show (House and Senate) well enough already to cripple them - maybe enough to actually make them really pay for TREASON, not just have a "ceremonial" impeachment.

And remember, the impeachment is the process. The conviction is the successful result of the impeachment.

But to do so, we would need the media to get so fed up with being spoonfed *'s lies . . . and that ain't gonna happen. God, I hope I'm wrong.
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Goldeneye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 07:11 AM
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27. Wouldn't it be a dem if we take back the house?
Edited on Fri May-27-05 07:11 AM by Goldeneye
nm...already covered in above posts.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 09:00 AM
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32. Line of succession
1. President (Bush)
2. Vice President (Cheney)
3. Speaker of the House (Hastert)
4. Senate President Pro Tem (Stevens)

The office of Speaker of the House is a lot easier to fill than Vice President. Were it to become vacant, the majority (Republican) caucus would agree on a new candidate, put him before the full House and elect him. For that reason, the line of succession will probably never reach the President Pro Tem of the Senate.

Under normal circumstances, were the office of Speaker to become vacant, the next person to fill the position would be the majority leader. However, as the root post points out, that's Tom DeLay and he's a serious liability right now.

The Republicans would most like pick DeLay's assistant, the Majority Whip, Roy Blunt of Missouri.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 09:03 AM
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33. That's ok, we'll take them on two at a time.
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