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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 01:59 AM
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McNamara: U.S. & NATO nuke policies are immoral, dangerous & destructive
Edited on Wed May-25-05 02:11 AM by paineinthearse
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U.S. and NATO nuclear policies are immoral, dangerous and destructive for the global nuclear non-proliferation regime, a former Defense Secretary from the Vietnam War era, Robert McNamara, said on May 24, 2005. McNamara, who spoke at a conference taking stock of the 1970 nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, was defense secretary in the 1960s under Presidents John F. Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson. He was the architect of early U.S. policy in the Vietnam War.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050523/ap_on_re_us/un_nuclear_treaty_3

Nuclear Powers Fail to Agree on U.N. Plan By CHARLES J. HANLEY, AP Special Correspondent
Mon May 23, 6:59 PM ET

Russia, the United States and three other nuclear powers have failed to agree on a joint declaration needed to add momentum to a floundering global conference to tighten controls on nuclear arms, a top Russian delegate said Monday. Such a statement "contributed to a compromise on the final document" at the arms conference in 2000, Anatoly Antonov noted. Its endorsement of the 1996 nuclear test-ban treaty, for example, signaled to states without atomic arms that those with them were serious about eventual disarmament. But the gulf has widened since between Washington and other nuclear-armed states on such issues as the test ban, which Russia, Britain and France have ratified but the Bush administration rejects. Antonov indicated the differences were stalling agreement on a new declaration.

Antonov spoke at a news briefing as the monthlong conference — a twice-a-decade gathering to strengthen implementation of the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty — entered its final week with prospects dimming that it will produce concrete initiatives to halt the spread of nuclear arms and encourage disarmament. Far from the U.N. basement conference rooms, nuclear tensions are mounting. European and Iranian negotiators meet Wednesday in Geneva to try to salvage talks in which the Europeans are urging Iran to end a nuclear program with the potential to produce atomic weapons. In Asia, North Korea is pondering its next move in a slow-motion international showdown over its weapons plans. Under the 1970 nonproliferation treaty, 183 nations renounced nuclear arms forever, in exchange for a pledge by the United States, Russia, Britain, France and China to move toward nuclear disarmament.

The non-weapon states are guaranteed access to peaceful nuclear technology, such as Iran's uranium-enrichment equipment, which can produce both fuel for nuclear power plants and material for atomic bombs. The U.N. conference bogged down for almost three weeks in bickering over the agenda. The United States insisted the discussions focus on proliferation issues, meaning Iran and North Korea. But many non-weapons states wanted equal emphasis on the nuclear powers' obligations to eventually disarm. The 2000 conference accepted "13 practical steps" toward disarmament, including activating the test-ban treaty and strengthening a treaty prohibiting anti-ballistic missile systems.

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Arms-control advocates such as Rep. Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio, visiting the conference, accused the U.S. delegation of blocking progress. "This week you'll hear it's North Korea and Iran (that are the problems). They ought to look at themselves first," he said of the Bush administration. "Their policies have brought about the kind of stalemate you see in the review process."

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If McNamara can learn the errors of his ways, is ther hope for the US today? Recommend this story - http://news.yahoo.com/photos/ss/1617
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 02:04 AM
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 10:42 AM
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2. You've heard of Fog of War?
Maybe it was foggy early morning when this was posted. Here's a kick for when the sun is shining.
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 11:12 AM
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3. from the Democratic Party platform ...
Edited on Wed May-25-05 11:14 AM by welshTerrier2
Democrats haven't done a good job understanding this issue either ... those radical lefties like Kucinich are viewed as "way out there" rather than recognizing that disarming the super-powers is a critical component to reducing nuclear weapons proliferation ... Democrats are so damned afraid of the "weak on defense" label that they endorse policies that put the country at risk ... it's all for politics and it's truly appalling ...

here's a few excerpts from the Democratic Party's platform ... i did searches on the words "disarm" (nothing on nuclear weapons) and on "proliferation" ... all the references i found focussed on restricting the development of nuclear weapons in countries that didn't already have them ... none of the references focussed on the effects of US policies on those countries ... both the US and the Democratic Party are failing to lead by setting the right example and honoring past treaties that emphasized both disarmament and non-proliferation ...

Notice, btw, the Democratic Party platform contains the following phrase (see bold below): "This is why strengthening the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty is so critical." If you read McNamara's statement, you'll understand how important super-power disarmament is to "strengthening nuclear non-proliferation" ... but where is the Democratic Party on that issue? it's tragic to say that we are nowhere ... how can we call for a responsible, rational idea like nuclear disarmament when we're so busy trying to prove how tough we are on defense!!! what have we come to when we believe that "good" politics is more important than good policy ?????

source: http://a9.g.akamai.net/7/9/8082/v002/www.democrats.org/pdfs/2004platform.pdf

KEEPING WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION OUT OF THE HANDS OF TERRORISTS
There is no greater threat to American security than the possibility of terrorists armed with weapons of mass destruction. Preventing terrorists from gaining access to these weapons must be our number one security goal. Containing this massive threat requires American leadership of the highest order – leadership that brings our allies, friends, and partners to greater collaboration and participation – and compels problem states to join and comply with international agreements and abandon THEIR weapons programs. Unfortunately, this Administration's policies have moved America in the opposite direction. They have weakened international agreements and efforts to enforce non-proliferation instead of strengthening them. They have not done nearly enough to secure existing stockpiles and bomb-making materials. They have failed to take effective steps to stop the North Korean and Iranian nuclear programs. We must change course now.
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Even as we have scoured Iraq for signs of weapons of mass destruction, Iran has reportedly been working to develop them next door. A nuclear-armed Iran is an unacceptable risk to us and our allies. The same is true for other countries that may be seeking nuclear weapons. This is why strengthening the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty is so critical. We must close the loophole that lets countries develop nuclear weapons capabilities under the guise of a peaceful, civilian nuclear power program. We also need to strengthen enforcement and verification and make rigorous inspection protocols mandatory.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 11:53 AM
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4. Isn't it amazing how rarely we look back on the platform
Edited on Wed May-25-05 12:04 PM by paineinthearse
...only to find those branded as being "way out there" are only stating party policy.
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 12:03 PM
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5. Rice's hawkish comments on Iran ...
yesterday, there was a thread complaining about Rice's hawkish comments on Iran ... everyone was up in arms about her sabre rattling ... but look at these side-by-side quotes from the Democratic Party's platform and Rice's comment ... eerie, isn't it ???

Democratic Party platform: "A nuclear-armed Iran is an unacceptable risk to us and our allies."

Rice: "a nuclear-armed Iran would be intolerable"
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 01:14 PM
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6. kick - why should we focus on silliness like this ???
Edited on Wed May-25-05 01:15 PM by welshTerrier2
when we could spend 100% of our time talking about politics ...

when will you "issues people" realize that most people don't give a damn about the boring stuff you keep posting about ???

all that "nuclear crap" might have been a big deal back in "the sixties" but give it a rest already, will ya ???
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