Dukakis for 2008! Why not? Think about it.

[janx]

What this country needs is a proven candidate, and party leader. Liberal. Northeast credentials. presidential timbre, a man who has and can lead the party in an election. That man: Michael Dukakis.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

1. Oh stop.

n/t

[Jack Rabbit]

2. Dukakis proved himself in 1988

He's a proven loser.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

3. You're kidding, right?

[janx]

4. Think about the emphasis on national security in these

frightening times.



We need somebody who can keep America safe.

[FrenchieCat]

6. Sorry, I couldn't help myself!

:rofl:

[Zensea]

9. Dukakis/Clark

We'll be set for 16 years.

[janx]

11. Karl Rove's worst nightmare.

[FrenchieCat]

15. Why?

Why mention Clark here? :shrug:

Just wiped the smile that the Dukakis pic gave me.....cause now I realize that it really ain't all that funny.....and I guess I could do the same with Kerry and his Bunny ears, and Dean doing the scream, and so on, and so forth.

SO I take back my laughter, and admit that I was wrong.

[Zensea]

18. Why not?

He's in your sig line for a post one minute before mine after all.

[janx]

19. Did you know that Dukakis

served for two years in the United States Army, sixteen months of which he spent with the support group to the United Nations delegation to the Military Armistice Commission in Munsan, Korea?

[FrenchieCat]

20. I said that I was wrong....

and no, there's a lot I don't know about Dukakis.

[janx]

24. You'll probably be surprised then

when you learn more about him.

[janx]

40. Dukakis--

He harkens back to the days before the Democrats were seen as weak on security and national security.

He's a real stateman in the traditional sense.

[Jim Sagle]

5. Shouldn't this be a Lounge thread?

;)

[MassLiberal]

7. He's a good man

and was a good governor to the commonwealth of Massachusetts. I'm sorry he ran for president, because people now only use his name as a punchline.

[Hippo_Tron]

8. Dukakis could've won in '88

And we would have had a true Massachusetts liberal as our president. Poppy ran a better smear campaign.

[MassLiberal]

10. you're right about Poppy

Dukakis wouldn't stoop to his level. He's a decent man who doesn't believe in smear campaigns.

[Jack Rabbit]

13. Clinton showed how to beat a Bush

You don't need to run a smear campaign. You just need to make sure the record is set straight as fast as the Bushies can try to bend it.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

23. Plus a third party candidate popular with fiscal conservatives helps.

Let's not forget Perot got almost 20%.

[janx]

26. True.

Ross was a fly in the ointment.

[Jack Rabbit]

28. Perot's vote was not a factor

Exit polls showed that those who voted for Perot who would have voted had he not been on the ballot would have split their votes almost evenly between Clinton and Bush.

That he got 19% of the vote showed a deep dissatifaction in conventional politics, but it did not take more votes away from one candidate than it took from the other.

[janx]

16. Yep.

[Hippo_Tron]

17. Dukakis should've called him out in Iran Contra

He should've said, "Is THIS the man that you want to be your commander in chief?

[janx]

29. I doubt he'd hesitate if he were to run again. n/t

[janx]

12. Absolutely!

Dukakis got smeared, but he is the Real Deal.

[cosmik debris]

14. Is Willie Horton still alive?

n/t

[AntiCoup2K4]

32. If he is, then I'm sure he'll be on Rove's payroll by next week....

...forming his own 527 "Swift Homicidal Maniacs Against Short Greek Ex Governors".

Rove is already running scared, and it's not even campaign season :scared:

[janx]

35. If he's scared now, just wait...

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

21. Gee this isn't a veiled shot at Kerry, is it?

Rather lame.

[janx]

25. This has nothing to do with Kerry--

unless you're thinking about the Mass connection.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

27. Your entire description of Dukakis match's Kerry's.

And given that Kerry is the one rumbling about running again and not Dukakis, it certainly would seem you're trying to take a nice sarcastic shot at Senator Kerry. It is not appreciated.

[janx]

30. Nobody's rumbling about running in 2008--unless you believe

the rumors our tabloid media crank out.

I am describing Michael Dukakis, not Senator Kerry.

[AntiCoup2K4]

31. Kerry was Dukakis' Lt Governor

Where do you think he learned everything from? Why settle for the student when you can have the master? :)

[janx]

41. The Massachusetts governorship alone is a great qualifier. n/t

[AntiCoup2K4]

42. Absolutely. It's a fact that governors get elected and senators don't.

If Clark would run for Gov. of Arkansas, he could probably bump LaRouche from the ticket, though I would still be concerned about the DLC* vote.












* -Delusional LaRouche Cultists

[janx]

43. Why/how are you concerned about the DLC vote? n/t

[AntiCoup2K4]

45. Because we must UNIFY the party

Pro war votes don't matter. Pro-rape of ANWR votes don't matter, Quarantining of HIV patients doesn't matter. As long as we defeat the Republicans!

[janx]

46. Clark would be good because of his military credentials.

Kerry would be good also. It's time we moved away from the "weak on national security" meme.

We could put the Pentagon to shame. That should unite people. What would the right have left after that?

[AntiCoup2K4]

47. Nah, with Clark or Kerry, we'd just get the Swift Boat Liars back again...

...and that won't lose any votes. LaRouche will know how to handle those assholes. He'll convince the world that the Swifties are really a group of Galactic-Zionist Aliens here to colonize Earth and abduct humans as a protein source. Now that is the no-nonsense progressive leadership this country needs!

[janx]

48. I don't know about LaRouche--

What is General Barry McCaffrey doing these days?

[AntiCoup2K4]

49. He's a commentator for MSNBC/NBC News, apparently

You can't be a commentator on a major news network and then be taken seriously as a candidate. Just ask Pat Buchanan ;)

And to go from a general to a media whore? What's up with that anyway?

[janx]

51. Why not?

[janx]

54. ...

[Jack Rabbit]

53. LOL

If he can't convince them they're aliens, he can try AIDS-carrying mosquitoes.

[JNelson6563]

44. You make a good point

Can't argue with that. :toast:

Julie

[AntiCoup2K4]

22. Dukakis/La Rouche 2008 for a unified party and a Stronger America

We must unify the Democratic party and select the most electable ticket that can bring progressives, moderates, and fringe wacko psychotics together against the Religious Reich neocons.

DUKAKIS/LA ROUCHE 2008 - FOR A UNIFIED PARTY AND A STRONGER AMERICA!!!

[janx]

33. History Repeats Itself!

[salin]

34. ugh. Hasn't the defamation of Dukakis gone on for enough years?

Good governor, legitimate candidate, ran ahead of bushsr until atwater pulled the smears that set the stage for today's rovian world.

Lumping him with cult leader, fraud, paranoidiac LaRouche - is just a tad bit over the top to make your point.

[janx]

36. That might be over the top. You're right.

Who else would make a good running mate for Dukakis? Clark has been mentioned. That would be a strong ticket.

[salin]

38. Count me in the caring more about the midterm elections

that vying for a candidate at this point - camp.

Frankly - I would bet that several folks will emerge, very strongly, who we can't even begin to speculate about today. Few were talking about Dean or Clark in May of 2001. Yet both emerged as potential front-running candidates.

[AntiCoup2K4]

37. Now now, leave the DLC bashing out of this!

The Delusional La Rouche Cultists have a valid place in this party too, you know. We can't win with just the "neo lefty Mass. Governorite" vote!!

[salin]

39. While I am far from a DLC supporter, nor apologist

even they would avoid LaRouche like the plague and don't deserve that particular can of tar.

I can never forget working on and around the hill in the mid eighties and having to get past a regular group of larouche protesters on the sidewalk outside of the Rayburn house office building - carrying their signs promoting the forced quarantine of HIV+ persons to an isolated island. Those folks are sick, and the defrauding of poor and elderly who were took in by these folks... atrocious. The DLC look like saints for liberal causes in comparison to the larouchites.

[Algorem]

50. Oh no,his name sounds like something you need an ointment for,and he

rode on a tank,and his wife took medicine or something.

[janx]

52. His name is Greek.

Think of all of the things the Greeks have contributed to western civilization.

[Algorem]

56. See,you blew it right there,you said "Greek",now America's giggling and

pointing.

[janx]

55. How about this?

[Moderator]

57. I'm locking this.

Flamebait.