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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 03:45 PM
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Clark: GOP Agenda at Play in Debate
Friday January 23, 2004 8:16 PM
By HOLLY RAMER

Associated Press

NASHUA, N.H. (AP) - Presidential candidate Wesley Clark on Friday complained that one of the moderators in Thursday night's debate was carrying out a Republican agenda by questioning his Democratic credentials.

Brit Hume of Fox News Channel, who worked as both moderator and questioner during the two-hour debate with the seven candidates, pressed Clark about when he had first realized he was a Democrat.

Clark told reporters Friday, ``I looked at who was asking the questions, and I think that was part of the Republican agenda in the debate.''

Democrats have complained that Fox News Channel shows a Republican bias.

-snip-

``I think voters understand that I am a Democrat,'' Clark said Friday after an appearance at Rivier College in New Hampshire.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-366063...
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 03:47 PM
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1. Clark should know........
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maxr4clark Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 03:52 PM
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4. So should every Democrat
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 03:51 PM
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2. It was very obvious to all who watched.
Hume. What a shill.

I was thinking, as I watched, that it would be great if the 7 candidates just ignored Hume. When he asked a question, they should have responded with something like..."That's the most one-sided, biased, narrow-minded and distorted question I've ever been asked."

If they'd have all stuck together and shown their contempt for Hume and FAUX, it would have made for some very entertaining TV.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 03:51 PM
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3. this is one thing I like about Wesley Clark...
Edited on Fri Jan-23-04 03:52 PM by kentuck
He responds in a very intelligent and relevant manner that hits them right in the gut. How many other candidates would think to challenge Brit Hume as part of a "Republican agenda"? Because it cuts right to the issue and it is the truth.

(edited spelling)
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:03 PM
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10. Shoulda, coulda, woulda...
Edited on Fri Jan-23-04 04:14 PM by krkaufman
General Clark should've voiced this comment in last night's debate. It would help him greatly with Democratic voters, if he were to take on Fox News -- on Fox.

Though, admittedly, his handlers have probably warned him against being too agressive -- worrying that it might turn off voters. It's tough to balance.
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Jerseycoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:15 PM
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17. Welcome to DU, krkaufman
:hi:
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:15 PM
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18. to me, it smacks of whining
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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 03:54 PM
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5. god i love this man!
:loveya:
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:30 PM
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26. Me, too!!! Go, Wes! I lov'ya. And I'm voting for you &
encouraging others to do so, as well.
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 03:56 PM
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6. Was General Clark a Democrat
Edited on Fri Jan-23-04 03:58 PM by DenverDem
when he was serving as a "military analyst" apologist for the war on
CNN?
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 03:59 PM
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7. Sure, that's why Rove wanted him fired.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:00 PM
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8. By that time, he'd voted for Clinton, Clinton and Gore, respectively.
Most Dems did, right?
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:01 PM
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9. yawn. What a consistent drum of misinformation. RV-lifelong dem
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:24 PM
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24. My first vote was for McGovern
Edited on Fri Jan-23-04 05:08 PM by DenverDem
so I've been fighting for peace and justice for my whole adult life.

Too bad "Democrats" like Clinton and Gore gave us a legacy of neo-liberal globalism, "free trade" and the 96 consolidation of the media act.

Did Clark, under the employ of Time Warner, dismiss the attack on Al-Jazera's offices and the Palestine Hotel that murdered journalists as "an accident" or not?

I'm not a Deaniac but I just don't understand the willingness to settle for "electability" when we need real change to survive as a country and a world. Of course, Clark is better than the headlong rush into the neo-fascist New World Order of the continuing control of the BFEE, but will he return the media to The People, will he reverse the corporatist control of the world economy,will he truthfully confront the cataclysmic realities of Peak Oil? Doubtful. He'll buy us a few years repite from the inevitable, but he's just the power elite's fall back position.

I will, however, dutifully vote for whoever the Democratic Party nominates.

(edited for typo)
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:11 PM
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14. Yes.
Yes.

He was a Democrat, and a patriot, when he was supporting the troops' efforts in a war they'd been ordered into by their Commander-in-Chief.

He was a Democrat, and a patriot, during his testimony to Congress, opposite and opposed to Richard Perle, when he highlighted that Saddam was a threat -- but not an immediate threat and certainly not warranting diversion of our focus from the war on global terrorism.

He was a patriot, and had voted Democratic, when he went around his Pentagon bosses directly to the White House, advocating action in Kosovo to prevent further genocide.
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Jerseycoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:14 PM
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16. Welcome to DU, DenverDem
:hi:
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:28 PM
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25. Thanks, Jersycoa
I appreciate your hospitable reply.
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markus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:05 PM
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11. I'm sorry, but it he's just figured out that FNC shills for the GOP
then I once again have to question his Dem bona fides, and his basic street smarts.

Hell, if we really wanted to smack Brit Hume, he should have done it live on the debate. Unless, of course, FNC would have used their typical delay loop to allow for some interruption in programming.

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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:16 PM
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19. Better to make your point on your own home ground
And that way control the message. Fox had control of the format and questions and response time during the debate. The counter attack Clark is making is best made on the campaign trail we has has control of the message he wants to send.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:07 PM
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12. Most of those questions in the debate stunk
All this attention to "electability" and political nuance. I kept pounding on the sofa arm and saying to the tv: "when are you going to ask a question about the environment?". ok, I was not actually pounding the sofa arm.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:18 PM
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22. I was wondering the same thing, SpikeTrees.
But I wasn't pounding the sofa arm; I was throwing popcorn at Chimpy's face. :-)

I think you'll like these, the latest from "Get Your War On:"



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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:46 PM
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29. those 'toons were really "out there"
An office worker/body builder metamorph. I think I will go work out now.
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:09 PM
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13. Why do they all agree to go on faux?
Everyone knows their political agenda,why do they keep setting themselves up? Geez... :crazy:
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:13 PM
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15. Agreed. Dems foolish for working with Fox
Gotta say that the Democrats were fools for even having a debate organized by Fox.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:16 PM
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20. You can't win elections
Edited on Fri Jan-23-04 04:17 PM by sangh0
by preaching to the choir.

It's widely recognized, at least on DU, that there are a lot of Republicans who are really pissed off at Bush*. Why not appeal to them?

If the candidates are afraid of a moderator, they have no business running out country
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pmbryant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:49 PM
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30. You can't win by preaching to the oppostion either
And if the primary purpose of the moderators is to embarrass the candidates, then it is arguable that such debates are counter-productive.

I didn't see it, so I don't know what this one was like. But I would much prefer if Dem candidates stuck to debates that were organized by more neutral organizations. That is hardly preaching to the choir, and would be more likely to allow them to get the true message out.

--Peter
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:17 PM
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21. But the fact is that none of the candidates ever brought it up.....
We can't assume that "everybody" knows it..because they don't. It needs t be verbalized, and so far, Clark is the only one to verbalize it.
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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:20 PM
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23. It was more than one moderator. nt
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:31 PM
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27. Well, SOMEONE had to say it! What was the Dem. leadership
thinking to have FAUX host the debate?
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:44 PM
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28. I donated yesterday
20324-1
Wooooowh! We are really chugging alone!
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:53 PM
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31. Christ. Now Drudge is running a pic of Clark
with a coissant and an eclaire at a lunch. I guess General Clark, after 34 years of service, is now "too French" for little Matty.

What a putz.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 05:41 PM
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32. Brit Hume is
an ass...and Wes knew he was going to draw those stupid ass questions from him.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 06:01 PM
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33. Hume is GHW Bush's ball boy.
Soon he will have another Democratic president to rail against. Be patient, Brit.

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