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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 07:24 PM
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Anti-bankruptcy press fact kit that was ignored by Repukes and Dems ...
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 08:32 PM
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1. The press kit failed to have enough hundred dollar bills in it
That legislation was PURCHASED and I am ashamed and appalled at the many many many Dems who got bought along with the usual criminal repukes.
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Joebert Donating Member (726 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 08:39 PM
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2. I'm still waiting for a reply from my senator as to why he voted yes. n/t
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 09:37 PM
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3. No matter WHAT consonant follows your name, if you voted for this
POS legislation, you need to lose your job. It is a declaration of war
on the American people!
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The Flaming Red Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 09:59 PM
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4. They're all rich people from rich families
Edited on Sat Apr-23-05 10:02 PM by The Flaming Red Head
why would they give a fuck if none of us can afford medical care? I think I'd stitch myself up or set my own bones, if I needed emergency medical right now, rather than lose my home or go in debt, and damned if I can afford health insurance. (And isn't medical care the main reason for bankruptcy filings in the US.)
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Hidden Stillness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 01:31 PM
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5. Republicans Don't WANT to End Depressions
This Demos-USA bankruptcy report is really interesting, and people should print it up and study it, if you didn't realize before that this is the real pattern of credit card debt. The statistics are really revealing, and show how people are suffering, and how they will probably never get out, and all because of predatory practices that used to be illegal. If this isn't a moral issue, then I don't know what is.

If anything shows the terrible damage the DLC has done to our party, besides helping Republicans to continuously attack "liberals," it is that this once-central, core principle of the Democratic Party is now never referred to by any of them. "Framing," fundraising, getting media-savvy, this is what they have made of themselves; and what good are they?

Because of the crimes of the now-unregulated corporate world, the economy is suffering a totally disastrous undoing of the very elements that make it up, as the investment capital of rich people is moved here or there, with preference to undemocratic countries, with no protections for the people, the environment, the law. We here are witnessing the value of the dollar itself, not only plummeting but being replaced by other currencies on world markets--frightening, unheard of--and the actual number of jobs that exist in the U.S. has dropped, as whole industries outsource themselves to other countries, so that unemployed people will often not have even another job to choose from. Banking and lending regulations are gone, and there is no protection anymore from the abusive violations of the "money-lenders." The recent "History" Channel documentary on Franklin Roosevelt, as dishonest as it was, reminded me again of the difference between the great and moral FDR Administration and its fight against the Depression, and this buttfucking oil executive here, and the total failure to address anything. It is a living sin on the Republicans' heads. "..But here is the challenge to our democracy: In this nation I see tens of millions of its citizens--who at this very moment are denied the greater part of what the very lowest standards of today call the necessities of life. I see millions of families trying to live on incomes so meager that the pall of family disaster hangs over them day by day. I see millions whose daily lives in city and on farm continue under conditions labeled indecent by a so-called polite society half a century ago. I see millions denied education, recreation, and the opportunity to better their lot and the lot of their children. I see millions lacking the means to buy the products of farm and factory and by their poverty denying work and productiveness to many other millions. I see one-third of a nation ill-housed, ill-clad, ill-nourished. It is not in despair that I paint you that picture. I paint it for you in hope--because the Nation, seeing and understanding the injustice in it, proposes to paint it out. We are determined to make every American citizen the subject of his country's interest and concern; and we will never regard any faithful law-abiding group within our borders as superfluous. The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little" (Second Inaugural, Jan. 20, 1937). Imagine how different the present world might have been, how much progress might have already been made on poverty and debt, if the saints of the Roosevelt Administration, Eleanor Roosevelt and all the rest, had been here, instead of us being left to the wolves themselves. We do not have a "President," a "Vice-President," and "Administration," etc,--we have only a huge group of corporate oil, etc. executives, helping themselves. God help us; we are left alone here, and then they lie about why people are in such debt...

Why are Democrats not fighting on this issue--are they so rich, so corporate, so Republican/DLC, that they don't even want to know our problems anymore? The nation suffers now as much as it did then, but then we had people acting, working to solve these things, putting laws in place that had protected us, and the economy, until now. Official Democrats need to realize that the issue of poverty and debt are once again mainstream, central issues in this country, not affecting only a few anymore, and that decriminalizing all corporate behavior is the cause of it all. This should be once again our cause, and describe it correctly, the way people are actually suffering it out here in the real country, as this report, and others, did. If we would ever, once again, show that we understood this national problem by describing what it is and how to solve it, as FDR did, as Lyndon Johnson did, etc., we would have the whole country rallying behind us to victory. Instead we get DLC "framing" and people who have no intention of doing anything except for corporate donors. Remember that the middle class and poor were hurt by Clinton, too. We need real Democrats to restore the justice and health of our nation, only we can and will. We need to speak up and demand a return to the real Democratic Party, and save the most vicious attacks for the real criminal villian; as always--THEM (Repubs).
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 02:23 PM
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6. Great thoughts, HS
I just got back from D.C. on Friday, and saw the FDR Memorial for the first time while I was there. What an experience!
The juxtaposition between those incised quotes and the sniveling, cowardly, snorting chimp installed in the people's house is enough to make a thinking person VOMIT. (Seriously, I almost did)
I was with a group of 8th graders and their teachers and parents. I COULD NOT KEEP MY MOUTH SHUT about this, and the other parents AGREED with me (or were too cowed to say anything pro *).
What a representation of stark contrast. I am seriously surprised that *co allows this monument to remain open.
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union_maid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 02:37 PM
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7. My Democratic Congressman voted for it.
I wrote to him and didn't get a very satisfactory answer. I left it at that and blogged about it, but I'm not getting past it either. I see it as a real and direct betrayal, especially in the context of our current administration and congress.

I did hear that at a breakfast for local Dems that I didn't get to, not one person spoke in favor of this bill and everyone was universally oppposed. We didn't get represented there at all.

Any suggestions as what to do next?
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 02:57 PM
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8. Suggestions? Don't vote for the fucker again.
That'd be my move, but that's just me and I have no clue where you are and how (if) your vote counts.

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union_maid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 03:13 PM
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9. Well, yeah...
My vote counts. It'd have to be the primaries where I didn't vote for him and there each vote is going to count a lot, because they're not well attended even in presidential years. If he wins the nomination, I will vote for him on the ham sandwich principle. I'd just kind of like to get the point accross to him and others that the DLC thing is a loser. I really think that it is, too. We need to be able to tell people why they should vote Democratic as opposed to Republican or not at all. He certainly doesn't always vote Republican and if we had a Republican in that seat it would be that much worse but we need more than that. I'm just still really pissed about this one.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 03:19 PM
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10. You have to do what your conscience tells you.
The system is broken anyway, so I just vote my conscience now.

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