Wes Clark on Bill Maher's show rocks and David Frum

[Blue_Roses]

stinks...I'm watching this repeat for the 3rd time and Wes Clark did so good. We have Dean speaking out, Kerry speaking out, Harry Reid on a roll and Barbara Boxer:loveya: is sensational...

Makes me know that it's coming together...:D Time...it just takes time...

[FloridaPat]

1. 25 years is a bit too long in my opinion. Yes, it's been that long since

the Democrats showed a spine.

[Catch22Dem]

2. For the record, it's Clark

Without the "e"

There was also Richard Clarke who wrote Against All Enemies a while back and caused quite a stir.

[Blue_Roses]

3. yes, you're right

and I have that book and read it from cover to cover. Sorry, got carried away with my "Clark's":eyes:
I'll try and change it for you.

[Catch22Dem]

5. "carried away with my carks"

HAHAHAHAHA. I wasn't trying to be a prick. I'm sorry if it came across that way.

[FrenchieCat]

4. !

!

[Totally Committed]

6. This was one of the best "Real Time"'s

this season.

The Far Right agenda v. the Left's was so apparent. Frum was a stuttering mess, and never managed to look up, much less anyone straight in the eye. He was disingenuous, ignorant, and laughably bad. Wes ate him alive a couple of times, and even Natalie Maines (The Dixie Chicks) challenged him very well.

It was a very good show.

Boxer's interview rocked, but I was so disappointed in Thomas Friedman's interview.

TC

[cybildisobedience]

8. what's to be disappointed about?

Who expected anything from Friedman? It's always the same rah-rah-globalization crap he's been peddling for years.

[Totally Committed]

9. For awhile there,

Friedman started to really question the war, etc. I had hopes he's finally come to see the error of his ways.

I was disappointed with seeing him back to being a cheerleader for the administration. That's all.

TC

[cybildisobedience]

10. sometimes it's best not to have hope for these whores

He only started to question the war when things the bodies started piling up. Now he's taking a Bill Maher approach -- hey, who cares, if 100 from now, there's democracy in the Middle East!!

[Totally Committed]

11. Truer words were never spoken!

I agree with you on this 1000%!

TC

[Sparkly]

7. I loved Frum trying to lecture the General on "military discipline"

re: gays in the military. The General smacked him down easily. Frum looked absolutely pained.

[Totally Committed]

22. That was only topped by

Richard Perle telling him he had no idea what the battlefield was like during the HASC hearings last week.

I nearly fell outta my chair on that one!

TC

[Blue Belle]

12. The only person who disappointed me in that show

was Bill Maher - and I'm a big fan of Bill's. It's just that when I hear him giving props to Bush for the new found democracy in Iraq, it makes me think that he hasn't done nearly enough research on the situation. It was mentioned in a previous thread that Wes Clark schooled Bill during and after party on the Iraq issue. I hope that is true. I'm tempted to send him some of Naomi Klein's articles that have been published in 'The Nation' and 'The Guardian' about how the Bush Administration has put the hammer down on any real democracy in Iraq. Geez, for a guy who claims he is anti establishment, he seems to be eating up a lot of it's bullshit lately.

[Beelzebud]

15. I agree with that 110%

The whole time I was listening to Maher talk about this great democracy that was spreading across the middle east, I was wondering if he had stopped reading the paper, like he always chides Bush for doing?...

He mentioned the Palestinian elections: How did he think Arafat got power?

He mentioned the Lebanese elections: They have been having elections for 20 some years!

He mentioned the "democracy" in Iraq, and totally ignored the fact that the violence has not stopped. Note to Bill: There is still a WAR going on in Iraq... A war that even you spoke out on because it was wrong thing for America to do.

For someone who spoke out so eloquently against the war, he sure does seem to be chugging the right-wing Kool-Aid lately. It makes me sick.

Here is my real question about Maher lately. Does he really believe this bullshit, or is he so desperate for that "fair and balanced" "conservative" audience that he has been whining about not having all season, that he is going to throw away his prinicples to get it?

[itcfish1]

13. David Frum

Was babbling, I didn't understand what he was trying to say. The audience kept booing him. It was great.

[Totally Committed]

14. WAPO liked his zinger, too:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A64519-2005Apr18.html

• "I like golf, and I'm sorry that Tom DeLay plays golf. And, you know, I think that people who are charged with ethics violations in Congress should be prohibited from playing golf! Because if you can't trust them in Congress, how can you trust their score on a golf course?" -- Gen. Wesley Clark, former Democratic presidential contender, on "Real Time with Bill Maher" Friday.

TC

[Texas_Kat]

17. That's Wes!

Putting it in terms even the "country club" republicans can understand!

[cajones_II]

21. And the absolute best comment

was " I think that people who are charged with ethics violations in congress should be prohibited from playing golf"

[underpants]

16. Nominated

:bounce:

[Sparkly]

18. (you sure?)

(Looks like it still has zero nominations.)

[Totally Committed]

19. I think the poster means...

Clark should be nominated!

(And I agree!)

TC

[Sparkly]

20. Oh! Me too.

:bounce:

[ClarkUSA]

23. How about those who don't have HBO?

Any links to a videoclip or two? :loveya: