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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 11:25 PM
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Dennis Miller, latest sellout to deny his Republican-ism
I've met many republicans over the last year or two who suddenly claim they're not republican at all, rather, "Libertarian." Dennis Miller is the latest to throw principles to the wind (as if he had any left), when he declared on TDS tonight, "Hey, I know people think I've turned into a right-wing nut job because I backed Bush on this war. But on everything else, I'm a Libertarian."

You're the latest member of that growing club, dumbass Miller. It is well know that a Libertarian is simply a republican too embarrassed to admit it!

It's just disgusting that the "I backed Bush on this war..." somehow trumps 230 years of history, the constitution, the law, your Social Security, kid's educations, medicare..........

You're just a dick, Miller. Time to admit it.

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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 11:25 PM
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1. He's on Meth!!!
FREAK!!!

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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 11:29 PM
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4. If there's one thing I hate more than rethugs....
It's fuckin Libertarians.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 09:24 PM
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54. Really. Please explain.
Edited on Thu Apr-21-05 09:28 PM by impeachdubya
Why is a theocratic control freak who wants to legislate what you do with your body, wants to decide what state-approved diety your kids need to pray to in public school, and wants to put a police presence in your girlfriend's uterus-- who also hates taxes, preferable to someone who wants the government out of their business... and also hates taxes?

Really, people piss and moan about "Libertarians" to no end here, and it befuddles me. I am hardly a supporter of the (L) Libertarian party, but on social issues I do consider myself Socially small-l libertarian. But at LEAST the Libertarian party has the balls to stand up and call a spade a spade on the drug war, something OUR Democratic party is shamefully far too cowed to ever come out and do.
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patcox2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 10:46 AM
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80. Many other libertarians have extreme views.
Obviously not you, but I also cannot stand the Ayn Rand, survival of the fittest, all taxation is slavery, privatize everything libertarians. There are many who simply do not accept the premise that "government" can or should do anything." They label all collective activity "communism." They are insane.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 08:34 PM
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89. Don't get me started on the Ayn Rand kooks.
Feh.

But in case you haven't noticed, economically everything you describe above IS the current policy of the Republican Party, with the possible exception of wanting to continually fund massive military-industrial and prison-industrial complexes. The GOP can't GET any more to the right, there just isn't room.

So at least the Libbers aren't trying to convert me to Xtianity at the same time.
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 11:47 PM
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14. i was thinking blow, but you might be right.
it was pure drug addled giberish.

richard pryor having a heart attack was funnier.
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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 09:50 PM
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59. Nah, too fat to be on meth or blow
He's eating too many Ho Hos while fretting over his dropping ratings. HA! Traitorous jerk. :donut:
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 12:54 PM
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83. has the cock crowed 3 times yet?
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two gun sid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 11:28 PM
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2. Most Libertarians I know of ....
are right-wing nut jobs.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 11:31 PM
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7. One definition of a Libertarian:
A Republican who wants to smoke pot.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 11:45 PM
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12. That's the definition I always heard.
I just love the fact that he's a guest on Jon's Show.

I saw a comedy show 12-15 years ago in Atlanta. Jon Stewart opened, David Spade was on second and Dennis Miller was the Headliner. Jon Stewart was by FAR the best stand-up that night, David Spade seemed drunk, and Dennis Miller was doing the same act then as he still does now. :evilgrin:
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 09:37 AM
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36. Reeps who smoke pot, screw around, and/or sleep in on Sundays
my usual definition for a typical "libertarian."

honest-to-god principled Libbers are only slightly less rare than rocking-horse poop.
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 08:27 PM
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48. "only slightly less rare than rocking-horse poop"
you win, i cry uncle! :spray: :rofl: :applause: :patriot: truer words haven't been spoken.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 10:31 PM
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61. What the hell is unprincipled about believing in the right of individuals
Edited on Thu Apr-21-05 10:31 PM by impeachdubya
to make up their own damn minds about things like sex, sleeping in, or smoking pot?

People who are motivated by greed, I can understand--- even if I may not agree with them. It's the Republicans who are buttoned down fundamentalist goons and unmitigated control freaks that frighten me.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 08:54 AM
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66. What's unprincipled is when you don't care about anything
beyond those things which affect YOU directly.

Phony Libbers may want to screw around, smoke dope and/or sleep in on Sundays (which is FINE, A-OK by me!) without gubmint interference, but they won't lift a goddamned finger to stop the "God Hates Fags" state amendments.

A real-life Libertarian (to me, anyway) is someone who well and truly believes in the power of freedom and autonomy. I don't care much for that philosophy, I think it's naive, but I can respect it if it's applied consistently.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 08:30 PM
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86. I agree, the label is used to cover a lot of crap.
And when applied to corporations (who have too much power and liberty in our society) as opposed to individuals (who have too little, IMHO) it becomes ridiculous.

But really, I consider myself mildly left-leaning and socially libertarian. I think there are certain societal compacts (like health coverage) which cannot legitimately be left 100% to free enterprise. But overall, I do believe in the "power of freedom and autonomy". Shit, I don't think that's naive at all! Look at the history of the human race- what is the alternative.. top down control? You end up with Totalitarianism, or the Catholic Church, or both...

Seriously, I'm not trying to argue, I'm just curious- if you don't believe, at least somewhat, in the "power of freedom and autonomy", what DO you believe in?
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 12:48 AM
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102. The problem with "Libertarians"
Sure they "want to be able to make up their own minds about things like sex, sleeping in or smoking pot". But hey, isn't that part of the "liberal" agenda too.

But libertarians are unable to imagine a society that allows those rights to be enforced. They want us all to hire lawyers to sue anyone who doesn't grant us our rights.

I'll never forget one of their "heads" talking about how to deal with a chemical plant that's upstream from your house on the river and dumping raw pollutants into that same river. His suggestion was to hire a lawyer and sue. Yeah, right! Sue a company that can hire a couple dozen lawyers...

I consider most Libertarians fools, dangerous fools.

Miller, on the other hand, is too chickenshit to say he's a repuke. I would guess he thinks it would hurt his career.
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 10:48 PM
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64. Well find the wooden horse shit -- here I am.
I'm a libertarian. A left-wing libertarian (who TOLERATES right-wing libertarians) that thinks the federal government is a joke. I don't care about pot. I'm a MINIMALIST, and I think the middle class and the poor are as responsible for their lot as the rich are.

I think that government should be moved to municipal, county and state levels, and that people should be responsible for their fucking CONSUMER CHOICES, and I'm pro-environment, anti-war, I eat organic food, I'm a poet and I like prog rock.

I'm not a right-winger. I'm not a sleeper-inner. I voted for Kerry. I think I'm a fairly principled person, taking my philosophies largely from Jesus, Buddhism and Thomas Jefferson.

Scoop it up, buttercup. ;)
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 08:55 AM
Response to Reply #64
67. I did say slightly less rare, y'know.
Some of my best friends, yadda yadda yadda...
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 08:31 PM
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87. What kind of prog rock?
Like, King Crimson? or GBV?

Just wondering what that even means these days. Labels are kind of weird with music.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 08:26 PM
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47. Up2Late, I saw a comedy show in Poughkeepsie, New York 12-15 years ago
Edited on Thu Apr-21-05 08:34 PM by rocknation
when I visited my sisters. I wasn't interested in sitting through tenth-rate material from a bunch of local yokels. But my sisters explained that the comics would be semi-pros--hand-picked to be part of a national tour, with Poughkeepsie as the last stop before a big-time gig at a comedy club in New York City. While I had a better time than I expected, only two of the comics REALLY made me laugh. What were their names again? Oh, yeah--Ellen DeGeneres and Jeff Foxworthy!

:headbang:
rocknation
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one_true_leroy Donating Member (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 11:27 AM
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42. and wants hookers, don't forget the hookers...
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 10:02 AM
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75. LOL ! Beautiful Man, Beautiful! N/T
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aldian159 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 01:04 PM
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84. Another definition for Libertarian
A Democrat who hates the poor.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 11:27 PM
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101. Well, their candidates opposed Iraq & Afganistan!!! Miller didn't!
He's a phoney at all times.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 11:28 PM
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3. Libertarians don't support the AWB
But Miller called it a "no-brainer" back in 1994. Some Lib.

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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 11:43 PM
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11. What's wrong with The Average White Band?
Although Libertarians strike me more as the K.C. & The Sunshine Band types.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 11:30 AM
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43. Dennis is trying to "pick up the pieces"
Uh huh, pick up the pieces...of his cred that's gone to crap?
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 11:30 PM
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5. He's so tiresome
The dye job on his hair is troubling. Very wrong shade, and 'way too dark.

He's like watching Robin Williams, another one who has trouble turning it off. But, Miller tries SO hard and goes so far afield, his "intellectual" linkings are just more of his tiresome attempts to be the cerebral comic he might have been before he turned into a Republican suckass.

Yeah, Libertarian. Keep saying it often enough, and don't forget to click your heels while you're doing it, Dennis, you sad little whore.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 11:30 PM
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6. Yeah, but when he started talking about supporting Bush on Iraq
he proved he's still a huge asshole. Ha! Ha! Dennis. I'll bet all those dead Iraqis are just HOWLING over your hilarious jokes about bombing Iraq. You're just SLAYING us Dennis. Literally.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 11:53 PM
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15. Saddam drew the Wonka ticket in the "dead" lottery
Yeah, Dennis, you're a real barrel of laughs.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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SerpentX Donating Member (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 11:32 PM
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8. Yeah, have fun with Snitchens and Caddell you putz!
CNBC wasn't enough, now you want time on Hardball too?
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 11:40 PM
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9. This guys political compass spins faster than...
Edited on Wed Apr-20-05 11:42 PM by xray s
...Richard Geer's Tibetan prayer wheel in the Santa Ana Winds.

Hey, Cha Cha...you are goin' down!
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 11:41 PM
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10. Just another right wing media whore, claiming to be a libertarian
or an independent, in order to be an even bigger shill for the RNC/GOP.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 11:46 PM
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13. Dennis has a bad case of audience envy
Doesn't he have to PAY his studio audience?
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 11:54 PM
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16. Did you see the "cut to the audiance" shot from his show clip?
It looked like about 6 people standing "off camera." :eyes: :crazy:
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:02 AM
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19. I guess $15 a show to sit through an hour of Miller doesn't attract
too many people.

DENNIS MILLER SHOW
Reply to: tickets4tv@yahoo.com
Date: 2004-03-09, 3:27PM PST

Audience work, one hour tape time, cash pay at end of show. Tapes 3/10, 3/11, and 3/12(1:45pm). Reply to tickets4tv@yahoo.com, incude contact number, nationality, and age or age range(submit photo if possible).

Thanks Brandon @ SRO
Compensation: $15 FLAT RATE

http://marc.perkel.com/archives/000188.html
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:30 AM
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22. That's Too Funny!
The Daily Show (and most of the Major Network shows) are Free. :evilgrin:
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 03:20 AM
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26. LOL, that is so sad
Miller has to hire an audience now.
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 09:05 AM
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71. WTF,Miller PAYS PEOPLE to sit in the audience?!?!?!
All those laid off workers here's your chance to make 15.00 PER HOUR. Er...well its only one hour and you have to put up with Miller and his Repuke ass kissing.

Maybe you could sneak an iPod or something else in and just listen to music for that hour.
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Pool Hall Ace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 12:26 PM
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82. What? You're paid to be in his audience?
I had no idea. :crazy:
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 11:58 PM
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17. Songs for Dennis
Edited on Thu Apr-21-05 12:02 AM by DulceDecorum
Why have you left the one you left me for?
Has she heard, like me, that slammin' door?
Did you leave for good or just get bored?
Why have you left the one you left me for?

Is she what you wanted
Or has time changed your mind?
Has your dream love gone crazy?
And what brings you here tonight?

.....

Go on now go walk out the door
just turn around now
'cause you're not welcome anymore
weren't you the one who tried to hurt me with goodbye
you think I'd crumble
you think I'd lay down and die
Oh no, not I
I will survive
as long as i know how to love
I know I will stay alive
I've got all my life to live
I've got all my love to give
and I'll survive
I will survive

......

Woah Woman, oh woman, don't treat me so mean,
You're the meanest old woman that I ever have seen.
I guess if you say so
I'll have to pack my things and go. (That's right, you rightwinger)

Hit the road Jack and don't you come back no more, no more, no more, no more.
Hit the road Jack and don't you come back no more.

Now Baby, listen Baby, don't you treat me this-a way
'Cause I'll be back on my feet some day,
Don't care if you do, cause it's understood,
You got no money, and you just ain't no good
Well I guess if you say so
I'll have to pack my things and go (that's right, y'old wingnut)

Well ...
Uh, whud jou say?
I didn't understand you.
You can't mean that ...
Aw now Baby, Please.
What you tryin to do to me??
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 09:04 AM
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70. Love it!
:applause:
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:00 AM
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18. Ugh!! I can't stand to watch him- He's absolutley horrid
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:12 AM
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20. I hope the Libertarians find Miller and KICK HIS ASS.
Edited on Thu Apr-21-05 12:12 AM by BlueIris
I'm sure they're none too happy that he's putting their party anywhere near Iraq (or Bush, really).

For the most part, though I do think these comedians, considering how much influence they have, have a responsbility to be responsible for the shit coming out of their mouths, (to the same degree that Keith Olbermann does, no, but they're not entirely unaccountable either) I don't care so much about what someone with a "funny" talk-show on t.v. says or does. But with Dennis, it's personal. The man and his HBO series were a key part of the formation of my own political and social values as a young adult. I worshipped him. He's gone so far over to the dark side now, it's hard to even think about him. Whenever I actually have to see him, usually channel surfing, by accident, it churns my stomach. When those accidents occur, I've been known to say, out loud, "This revolt of thine, me thinks, is like another fall of man."
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:18 AM
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21. All the Libertarians I know....
...are absolutely AGAINST spending TAX MONEY on FOREIGN WARS!!

If you support WARS against countries that don't directly threaten the USA, you are NOT a Libertarian.

It would be like someone saying, "Yes, I'm a Catholic. I just don't believe in that Jesus part."
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:57 AM
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24. The Libertarians I've met lately (O.K., back when Clinton was still in)
...are sort of like RW Anarchists,
they mostly think that Laws are "Government Interference" in their persecute of Liberty.
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 11:43 AM
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44. They also take issue...
with anyone fucking with their civil liberties. I'm sure if they actually read the Patriot Act, they wouldn't be so keen on supporting the Bush Administration.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:53 AM
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23. Miller's opinions are as worth as his value as a personality ......
..... from a top rated comedian he's now reduced to a few commercial gigs shilling for losers and a loser show on a third rate, unwatched cable network.

Nice career there, Dennis ...... ya fuckwad.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:59 AM
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25. Miller calling himself a "Libertarian" is a total joke
Edited on Thu Apr-21-05 01:01 AM by zulchzulu
Ashamed Repugs usually say they are "Libertarians"...it's a tired excuse.

Ask them about how they feel about the ACLU...they hate it. BZZZT! Ask about the Patriot Act....they don't mind it.... TOTAL BZZZT!

I've seen these ashamed closet Repugs before calling themselves "Libertarians" when stuck in a corner.

They are generally cowardly pussies unwilling to admit that they have been wrong all along.

The only good thing is that they can be halfway there as being Democrats if they can face the music and realize they have been duped. That's a lot to ask for most of them.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 03:33 AM
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27. Libertarians are Republicans who want to smoke pot.
I'm sick of them.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 10:25 PM
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60. Right, the Republican control freaks are far preferable.
Edited on Thu Apr-21-05 10:26 PM by impeachdubya
Maybe we should think of ways to distinguish ourselves from the Theocratic nutjobs of the GOP--- and potentially WOO these self-identified "libertarian" folks, rather than constantly making fun of them and pissing in their Wheaties. Maybe.

(And, no, I'm not talking about Dennis Miller. He can just plain fuck off.)
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 06:59 AM
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28. I Agree - And Didn't Bill Maher Call Himself A Libertarian Too?
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safi0 Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 09:05 AM
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32. I think Maher
actually is a Libertarian, based on his views of various issues.

Dennis Miller always reminded me of that guy in Godd Will Hunting. You know the scene in the bar when Ben Affleck's hitting on some girls and some guy with ugly, long hair comes over and tries to make him look stupid by making some statements that he thinks makes him look smart. If anybody remembers who I'm talking about, that guy is Dennis Miller
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 10:36 PM
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62. I definitely remember Maher saying
he was a "social" libertarian, not a fiscal one.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 08:56 AM
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29. Ahh, the old "I'm a libertarian" ploy. He's backed everything Bush
does and there's no way a libertarian would back anything he has done, nor would a real Republican.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 10:20 PM
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98. he played the certified bush whore to the extreme
and now he's pandering to the left? Mr. Miller can f*** himself.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 08:58 AM
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30. I'm surprised he didn't say he's an Independent!
That's what I've been hearing from formerly-Republican people these days! (In other words, "Don't blame me"!)
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 09:29 AM
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34. And nobody voted for Nixon.
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The Flaming Red Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 09:05 AM
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31. He isn't even funny
He hasn't been funny or entertaining for years.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 09:19 AM
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33. LIBERTARIANS DON'T SUPPORT THE INVASION OF IRAQ
Sorry to shout, but I saw that prick last night and couldn't believe my ears. I love your line: "Libertarian, someone too ashamed to admit they are a republican"

Ron Paul, a preeminent libertarian, writes frequently and scathinglin of Smirk's little adventure in IraqNam
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 11:26 AM
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41. You're right. Libertarians support a non-interventionist foreign policy
Even to the point where some would call it 'isolationist'.

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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 09:35 AM
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35. the fucker totally crapped on Jon Stewart's interview
he arrived with his 10 minute skit in tow, not allowing Stewart to ask him even one question that I'm sure Jon had in tow.
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 10:07 AM
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37. A classic case of rats jumping ship.
Soon, There will come a day that it will be hard to find anyone to admit voting for Bush.
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cybildisobedience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 10:26 AM
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38. oddly enough,though, Bush will still be "winning"
and the media won't make a peep.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 07:51 PM
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46. If wishing made it so. ::dreamy sigh::
Edited on Thu Apr-21-05 07:52 PM by BlueIris
::and again::
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DeaconBlues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 10:26 AM
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39. About the obscure references he makes that passes for jokes
Anybody else notice that his interviews, etc., are simply his monologues with another person sitting opposite him - meaning that nothing ad libbed ever comes out of his mouth. His jokes are nothing but rote ramblings his staff have had tons of time to prepare for.

He is nothing but a Rush Limbaugh with a thesaurus.
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johnnyrocket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 11:16 AM
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40. He's admonishing the theocons who control the GOP
...that's anyones main purpose to say their 'libertarian', but basically they're still a-hole cons.
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:08 PM
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45. Note to Dennis Miller:
Your SAT word filled lexicon of a monologue only works if the audience is familiar with the words. The "Flat Earth Society" that you've embraced and have been pandering to are lazy and have zero intellectual curiosity... so big words have a tendency to fly right by them. They laugh at you because they don't understand you (kind of like some of Adam Sandler's Pavlovian fans will laugh every time he talks - even when he's in a serious role)... and they have an inability to detect a phony when they see it (if they could, we wouldn't be stuck with this current Administration). So, if you're looking to win back the love from the Left, don't bother. We think it's cute when a child uses big words he doesn't understand, but not an aging has-been comic who rolls over for whatever demographic has the political upper hand at the time. Do us all a favor Dennis - shut your considerable pie hole and sleep in the bed you made. If your ratings go down, and you don't understand why it's due to a little thing like Karma biting you in the ass. If you feel your life spinning out of control, don't lose hope... I'm sure your agent can book you on some adds for Grecian Formula. If that is the case, John Bolton and Tom Delay would still love you - I promise.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 08:28 PM
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49. GOD I wish he could read what you wrote
Edited on Thu Apr-21-05 08:28 PM by Jacobin
I would love to see Dennis melting away, like water poured on the wicked witch of the west....."oh what a world, what a world...."
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 08:42 PM
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50. He wouldn't get the reference.
He would just throw in obscure words he doesn't entirely know the meaning of just to try and hide the insults that even a 10-year old would have outgrown.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 09:12 AM
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72. Is it true he keeps a thesaurus by the john
so his bathroom reading consists of finding fun new words to impress with? Better that he take some good newspapers, or maybe a copy of Krugman in there.
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LowerManhattanite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 09:28 PM
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56. Miller's ratings...sweet Jesus in a rusted-out Studebaker!
"If your ratings go down, and you don't understand why it's due to a little thing like Karma biting you in the ass. If you feel your life spinning out of control, don't lose hope... I'm sure your agent can book you on some adds for Grecian Formula. If that is the case, John Bolton and Tom Delay would still love you - I promise."

Miller's ratings for the night of April 20th: 65,000 viewers.

That's right...65,000 lousy viewers. Not even enough to fill Giants Stadium for a football game. I'd imagine the crazy knife-selling-network guys get more viewers in their first fifteen minutes.

65,000 people in a country of some 263-odd million people. And now you understand why he's running for cover. He's gotta protect his "phoney-baloney job*"

*Governor LePetomaineBlazing Saddles"
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 10:07 AM
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76. 65K viewers? BAWHAHAHAHA
I bet a late-night ProActiv infomercial has more viewers.
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 10:42 AM
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79. No kidding.
The only other talk show with worse ratings was the John McEnroe show... That's what MSNBC/CNBC gets for it's love affair with the over zealous right. The market is flooded with angry white men!!

I wonder how bad Phil Donahue's ratings were before they pulled the plug on his show... I'm guessing they were better than Miller's.
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cquik18 Donating Member (315 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 09:28 PM
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57. AMEN!!!!
And no obscure reference to the Zapruder film or Cha Cha Muldowney can rectify that fact my friend! You have tossed your lot with the Repukes, and been assimiltated like Captain Picard in the "Best of Both Worlds" episode of "Star Trek: the Next Generation". I recommend a liberal application of antiseptic analgesic cream for the implants, Locutus-they can get infected easily!

HAW HAW HAW!

And to think I was going to get NetZero-NOT while HE'S whoring for 'em! :nopity:
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ScooterTramp Donating Member (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 08:53 PM
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51. The rodents are deserting the ship!
:)
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 09:27 PM
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55. ONE CAN ONLY HOPE!!!
And so I shall.
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ScooterTramp Donating Member (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 09:47 PM
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58. And so shall I!
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 08:55 PM
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52. Agree 100%
What a pathetic peace of shit he has become -- a complete right-wing stooge.
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RAF Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 09:22 PM
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53. very good point Atman
I've noticed similar talk recently when dealing with some of my customers. I often steer the conversation to politics. I finally ask "who did you vote for?". Almost every time the ones who say Bush turn very red and are extremely hesitant to admit it. They quickly try to change the conversation.
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SeanQuinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 10:41 PM
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63. For what it's worth, I know a very Dem-friendly Libertarian.
Here in very red Seminole County, Florida. He's economically on the right, but socially left and supports Dems over GOPers anyway. But he did support Badnarik for President.
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 10:57 PM
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65. Yeah, I saw that too...my husband and I were both incredulous
over that line about starting a war that was necessary and he didn't think Kerry would have the guts to go to battle but he knew that bush was up to jumping all over it. My immediate response was, "What about the tens of thousands of innocent people who died because bush chose war over an intelligent well thought out removal of power, once we were certain that there were no WMD? What about our young men who are dead now because there was no plan after shock and awe?"

And then the follow up bullshit about the whining conservationists..."The temperature of the earth only went up one and a half degrees this year. Big deal." Well as it happens, I live in Florida, and the meteorologists now tell us that the temperature of the ocean was exactly one degree above normal last summer...but that one degree was enough to create four hurricanes that kicked Florida's butt.

Dennis, now you know why you WISH you had an audience like Jon Stewart has.
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 09:01 AM
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68. F Miller...he used to be cool
but he, like many others, sold his soul to the rethugs. Now he's trying to deny it...what an a-hole.
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ScooterTramp Donating Member (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 11:17 AM
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81. My own thoughts exactly.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 09:03 AM
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69. All anyone needs to know is that Neil Boortz claims to be a
Libertarian!!!!
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apple_ridge Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 09:46 AM
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73. Libertarians are anarchistic right wing nut jobs. They are so far
to the right that they are at that meeting point of extreme left and extreme right in the great circle.
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liberalpress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 09:59 AM
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74. I might have missed it, but.....
...was there a "Jon-Stewart-has-gone-over-to-the-repukes-because-he- had-Dennis-Miller-on" thread?
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DeaconBlues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 10:07 AM
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77. Didn't see one
but it was wince-inducing to see Jon Stewart giggle like a schoolgirl at every one of Miller's tired jokes. I know its his job, but still.....
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 08:44 PM
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90. I suspect Jon was throwing an old colleague a bone
Appearance fees may not pay the mortgage, but they will pay the light and heat. And they did appear on the same bills when Miller was on top and Jon at the bottom of the ladder.

It was likely a simple act of kindness to a has-been. That karma thing, some know how to play it, others do not.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 10:11 AM
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78. My Request for Dennis Miller Tickets
I would like to order 4 tickets to the Dennis Miller Show. Please be aware that I will require substantially more than $15. to have to sit through Mr. Miller's psychotic ravings. How about $150. per ticket and I only have to sit there for 15 minutes. Also, I want a Lazy-Boy Barco Lounger, some beer and headphones for my Ipod. Are you guys gonna send me a check or will you pay me cash when I show up?

Regards,
Vinnie From Indy
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m_welby Donating Member (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 01:17 PM
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85. You'd think libertarians would be rather displeased to have miller
A real libertarian is nothing like miller, too often you are right: " a Libertarian is simply a republican too embarrassed to admit it!"

I can at least respect REAL libertarians. Miller is just trying to drum up an audience by showing up on TDS and claiming not to be a right wing nut job. Of course I agree with him on that one, a right wing nut job believes the rhetoric, miller is just a self absorbed narcisist. I always thought he was a smarmy egotistical pseudo-intellectual, but when he went rightwing I realized he didn't care about anyone or anything other than himself.

As my son said: "Hard to believe that 'Bordello of Blood' would become the high point of his career!" (but then working with erika eleniak would make it all worthwhile).
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umtalal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 08:33 PM
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88. I watched him on the Daily Show and he sucked.
He looked fat, beaten, tired and desperate. He was on something because he was non stop and not funny. I looked at him with dismay and enjoyed his public humiliation.

He might think we think he is something, but he knows we know he is not much.
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sundancekid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 08:48 PM
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91. this joker gives "Libertarian" a VERY BAD NAME. period.
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union_maid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 09:51 PM
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92. The few libertarians I know voted for Kerry
They might have leaned Republican before, but Bush and the war pushed them to the Democrats for the duration. What Miller really is, is someone who was funny for about five minutes and thought he could jump on a bandwagon that wasn't really there. Get in on that new, "cool to be a fascist" thing. He stopped being funny before he went all Bushevik. His inner asshole has been showing for years now. It took his conversion to Bush to make it totally obvious. Now he's not even tolerated by those who once thought he was kind of funny. His best days were reading the news on SNL. That was a long time ago.
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 11:06 PM
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93. Once upon a time....
I liked (the liberal) Dennis Miller. Then out of nowhere, appeared the Rethuglican, right-wing, war-mongering Dennis Miller. I considered the possibility that he suffered a blow to the head, or a stroke, which caused him to do a political 180. Or maybe he caught a lunk-head virus from those football commentators he worked with. It seemed more likely that he was simply being an opportunist, recognizing which way the wind was blowing.

I've been waiting for months to see how he was going to deal with his failing career and his "People think I'm a right-wing nut job, but REALLY I'm a Libertarian," comment was a hoot, but no surprise.

:rofl:
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Jr_Samples Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 08:38 PM
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94. I disagree with your characterization of "Libertarian"
Atman,

You said, a Libertarian is simply a republican too embarrassed to admit it! I disagree this is always, or even usually, the case.

Oh sure, Miller probably uses the line "I'm a Libertarian" because he's ashamed of his Rapture-ublican tendencies, but I seriously doubt everyone who claims to be a Libertarian is an embarrassed GOPher. They might be naive and just be saying "I think freedom is a good thing!" Maybe they're liberals in a pro-Republican setting. I'm sure there are at least a couple left-leaning folks in the Pentagon who have claimed to be "libertarian" when pressed for their political views at the $21,500 water cooler.

But the idea that "libertarian" is a Republican description is faulty, IMO.

In today's media-soaked political environment, where ideologies inherit erroneous definitions, it's not so hard to see how the same political party that turned "liberal" into a nasty word also turned "libertarianism," an American ideal, into a synonym for their own belief system.

It's equally easy to see the tables turning at this very moment in political history. Now that they're in power, the ideals are out the window. With the political on/off switch in their formerly oxycontin-stained fingers, the GOP is committing all those nasty sins that used to make their formerly-libertarian blood boil:

(1) They're the masters of political correctness ('homicide bomber'; 'racial profiling' {it's racism, folks}; 'coalition forces';'freedom fries'; 'clear skies initiative').
(2) Big government: true, the money goes to different places with these guys in power, but the bottom line remains - never before has our Federal government been so massive or expensive.
(3) Fiscal irresponsibility: never before have the deficits been so high.
(4) Personal privacy: do you really think if 9-11 hadn't happened they'd not be inventing ways to snoop into our personal affairs?
(5) Federal Government trumping local government: four words - No Child Left Behind.


I could go on, but I'm not nearly as interesting or resourceful as Joe Conason or Robert Parry.

Libertarianism is neither conservative nor liberal. Neither is it, in its purest form, possible. It's to government what perpetual motion is to engineering. But just as when engineers who strive for maximum energy efficiency are technically moving towards the untenable "perpetual motion," our nation's founders pointed us in the direction of the untenable "absolute freedom" by building this nation on the notion of personal liberty.

Imagine! So many folks are convinced Dennis Miller's an intelligent man. When you think about it, "But on everything else, I'm a Libertarian" is a lot like, "But on everything else, I'm a pro-good stuff supporter."

Gee, Dennis, thanks for giving it so much thought.

Phil
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cquik18 Donating Member (315 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 09:00 PM
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95. Nuts to Locutus....
refer to post 57! LOL!
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 09:10 PM
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96. I actually met a libertarian who voted for Kerry
In general he could find no common ground with either party but he knew that Bush was SO bad that he had to go. But he was genuinely a libertarian both socially and fiscally as well as in foreign affairs.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 09:57 PM
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97. We all backed Bush on Afganistan, but Miller said 'he'll give Bush a pass'
Edited on Sun Apr-24-05 09:59 PM by EVDebs
on Iraq. I don't give passes to people who think the masses are asses. Miller's 'Varsity' b.s. is a pantload too. Stacked every show with neocon jackoffs just like himself.

Bush = Worst President, Ever.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 10:50 PM
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99. He's no more a Libertarian than he is a comedian
Christ! I can't believe I'm defending Libertarians!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 11:25 PM
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100. Thanks for sharing! Entertainers become political when they fade out...
...lose their audience, their stuff. Miller stopped being funny, so he got in with the money boys and was rewarded. It all started with Bob Hope. He made a second career of "Bob Hope visiting the troops." The one that really pisses me off is Ron Silver, he is so repellent in his presentation, like he has shit in his mouth.

BTW, nothing wrong with liking the Libertarians. I like about 1/2 of what they say (easy to guess which 1/2). Like the Greens too. In some ways, the Democrats are a conjugation of the Greens and the Libertarians.

Just remember, the Libertarians stood with the Greens to challenge Ohio. Can't ever forget that.
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cquik18 Donating Member (315 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 04:38 AM
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103. Why are we even DISCUSSING Dennis Miller?
I saw "Tales from the Crypt, Bordello of Blood", and I must say, I was pleased with the ending...Ol' Dennis is in this movie, that's why I mention it....he's prostrated himself to the neocon machine and has the mark of the beast engraved in his forehead-let that possum die on the side of the road, fer Chrissakes!
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 10:55 AM
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104. Ding Ding Ding
We have a winner. And this goes for Pat Boone, Patricia Heaton, the Ultimate Warrior, etc. Who the frick cares what these hacks have to say?
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 11:00 AM
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105. Most Disgusting "Point" This Idiot Made On TDS
Was that he voted for Bush because he was a "checkers player" who "jumps the bad guys" and Kerry is "a chess player who thinks too much."

Yeah right, who would want to give any thought to invading and occupying a country, what's to think about? Let's see him do that schtick at Walter Reed for the amputees who will be paying for the King George's little checker game the rest of their lives.

Dennis Miller came off as such a snickering, self-centered fool on that show! I'd like to send HIS ass to Iraq for a game of checkers.
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