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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 01:52 AM
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BRAD BLOG: CLINT CURTIS PASSES POLYGRAPH EXAM!
CLINT CURTIS PASSES POLYGRAPH EXAM!
Story Broken in Florida's St. Petersburg Times by Pulitzer Prize Winning Reporter!

Still Manages to Mangle, Misrepresent and Omit Several Key Elements of the Story!

After many months and many requests and many challenges from both critics and Mainstream Media types, The St. Petersburg Times is reporting -- and The BRAD BLOG can confirm -- that Clint Curtis took a polygraph test on March 3rd...and passed!

The lie-detector test, administered to Curtis by Tim Robinson, the retired chief polygraph operator for the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, found that the Florida whistleblowing software designer who has charged in a sworn affidavit that he was asked by U.S. Rep. Tom Feeney (R-FL) to create an electronic vote-rigging software prototype in 2000, was indeed found to be truthful in all of his responses!

And yet, the Pulitzer Prize winning reporter, Lucy Morgan, who was hand-delivered the scoop, still manages to make a mockery of it. An object lesson of the MSM in full-blown retrograde...

URL: http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00001313.htm

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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 01:56 AM
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1. As many here in the "DU Echo chamber" have suggested:
Bush cheated.

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 02:08 AM
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2. He wouldn't know how to do it any other way.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 02:12 AM
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3. I second that.
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StudentOfDarrow Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 08:01 PM
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34. I third that.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 06:27 PM
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29. I love the DU bloggers
:thumbsup:
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 02:20 AM
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4. Kick! Send this to your local newspapers and TV stations,
Edited on Sun Apr-10-05 02:21 AM by Liberty Belle
and to every legislator that you can in all parties. The truth needs to be known!

Nominated...

:kick: :Kick: :kick: :kick:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 03:09 AM
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5. Kick and distribute!
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 02:32 PM
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16. Check your inbox!
:hi:
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 03:35 AM
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6. Kick!
The boy king has got to go!
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 03:40 AM
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7. GO bradblog go... ! nt
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 04:35 AM
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8. Did he do the MRI test? Cause those can distinguish a sociopath
& perhaps someone mentally ill. Both of whom could pass a polygraph. Along with all the dungeons & dragons role player crowd.
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kypper Donating Member (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 11:07 AM
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9. Along with...
CIA operatives.

Don't get me wrong... I think Bush cheated and it will never be known whether he actually won that election.

but polygraphs don't hold up in court for a reason.
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Catamount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 12:50 PM
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10. Oh Please!!!! We all know----there is no doubt!
Of course it's not the first time someone cheated to get into office!:mad:
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kypper Donating Member (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 02:17 PM
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14. It isn't the first
...and it won't be the last.

But whether we all know is still being debated. My mind is quite on the side of the statistics that indicate fraud, and there's where I stop. In an ideal world, I would rather hold a second, UN-supervised election rather than appoint Kerry the president.
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Catamount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 03:04 PM
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18. Check the 2004 Election Forum for overwhelming evidence.
People have been showing all kinds of proof since that awful day.
Of course what does it matter now, when it seems that everybody knows but can do nothing about it?
It shocked me to hear that everytime that there's a really close election, somebody cheats, because it's so easy.
It's so important to have a system that is 'cheatproof', like they have in Australia and other countries.
:shrug:
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 05:00 PM
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23. Bush won the election by stealing hearts & minds. That is all.
It is much more common for such sociopathy to exist than you think.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 12:57 AM
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40. The only place it needs to stand up in is...
public opinion.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 01:19 PM
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12. That is true
so would they do one of those test's next? What's the next step now?
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kypper Donating Member (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 02:14 PM
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13. There isn't one
Edited on Sun Apr-10-05 02:16 PM by kypper
The entire legal system still uses the idea of enforced truth through placing your hand on the bible. In reality, it's the honor system... and people lie through their teeth. The only way to get around that is to prove otherwise: innocent until proven guilty.

There would have to be some form of trial for Feeney (which will never happen). Even assuming it did, the Republican elite would easily concoct some form of story that makes Curtis some seedy lowlife - the least credible witness possible. Unlike the Democrats, all they need to do is repeat it until the public believes, at which point everyone caves. It worked in the Kennedy investigations.

Edit: The only beacon of hope I see here is the Shiavo case; the public thought the Republicans were full of it no matter how many times they spewed their bile.
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MollyStark Donating Member (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 07:08 PM
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31. It seems your purpose is to discourage people from democracy
Is that the case? There is nothing wrong with pursuing the truth. In fact it is the duty of all of us.
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kypper Donating Member (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 09:18 PM
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38. Far from it
I don't get my hopes up, however.

Until people make a concious choice to be educated, they will continue to believe lies from Fox et al.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 04:56 PM
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21. Self Delete - wrong spot
Edited on Sun Apr-10-05 04:57 PM by applegrove



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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 04:59 PM
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22. Sweetie - my point was that I think the guy is a plant or a nut.
Sweetie - my point was that I think the guy is a plant or a nut. Bush did not steal the election using machines. He stole it the way a cabal of sociopaths always do..they stole the hearts and minds of many Americans and got them to vote against their own self interest using 'herding' techniques and the tools sociopaths always use.

It is much easier for you to believe that a machine was programed to steal this election. Because it means there is a way out of this mess. I think you are just putting off the inevitable.. which is that you have some scary people in the WH and most of your country does not see this. And it pains you to witness so much of your country caught up in lies. And you want it to be small and go away in 4 years at least. But Bush & the GOP machine are actually much worse than that.. and there is no guarantee that they cannot steal the next election too. That is the hard part. That your life has changed and you have monsters in it and they are all over your life and they want the liberal life you know and love to be destroyed.

I do not for a second believe any machine was fooled with. I know only too well how a great sociopath can control the minds of a large number of people.

I would learn how to cry hard. And laugh even though what America has lost hurts. Laughing will keep you sane. As will crying. Things are different. Bush won that election and all the civil servants and the press have to respect that. That is how democracy works. Even as Bush tries to run the economy into the ground.

My advice to you would be to take a step back. Don't get lost in small details if you were not there to witness them yourself. It is the larger patterns that speak the truth. Bush & Rove are monsters. They stole the election by stealing hearts and minds.

And I am sure there was some voter intimidation with the felon lists of only African Americans being pursued in Florida. I am sure there was tons of that type of electoral game playing going on. So there is a need for voter reform. And it is a crime that Bush has gotten so many people to no longer trust the voting system (what with all his lies about everything).

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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 05:15 PM
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25. No, they stole the election by stealing votes.
You're flowery prose that covers the truth, notwithstanding.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 05:45 PM
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26. I wish I was not so flowery. Sorry.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 08:43 PM
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37. I second that.
As does anyone who has spent an hour trying to make the reported results make even the simplest mathematical sense.

They don't.
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MollyStark Donating Member (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 07:15 PM
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32. Wow
Edited on Sun Apr-10-05 07:36 PM by MollyStark
I know it is very scary to believe that it would be so easy for the republicans to take over the electoral process. Don't worry other people will fix this and eventually you will come to accept the total facist corruption that the republican party has become.
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 02:20 PM
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15. Now why would you do that, apple? D&D'ers are diverse in their gameplay
as well as their humanity, just like any other large group of people.

Im not like outraged or anything, just wondering why you would stereotype a group like that?:shrug:
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 05:01 PM
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24. Who are D&Ders?
Edited on Sun Apr-10-05 05:06 PM by applegrove
The real battle is to accept & grieve what America has lost as a nation. And dig deep, be adult & use empathy to reach out to the people who had their hearts & minds corrupted by propaganda. That is the only way to win the election.

I know that election shenanigans go on. There are many overt examples that cry out for electoral reform. I don't want to see our friends mired in the details (of events they could not possibly have witnessed). I want to see them grieve the loss of their nation and reach the higher plain you reach. So that they do not get hurt anymore. So that they can stand back and not be so vulnerable to denial.

I don't want to see them hurt.
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 05:48 PM
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27. I know you're a very empathetic individual...
D&D'ers are people that play Dungeons and Dragons, the comment you made about them was a little out of character for you in its broad brush stroke.

As far as reaching out to the white washed (the propagandized) I agree but many dont/wont/cant do that. I find it hard to tell them otherwise for I have endless empathy for those who feel the opression that is only now just starting.

For many feel that all logic does point to election fraud, maybe not proof (which is a fairly hard thing to define for some of us now-a-days in regards to anything the media or government puts out as such). That in turn furthers a feeling of hopelessness of winning any elections that are "big" and play into the grand schemes of Washington on more than a sycophantic level.

Im really uncertain if "winning" (honorable) elections is possible anymore without a supporting majority of over 60-65%, that is a huge and long percentage deficit to overcome in this day and age. Maybe we can do it through empathy and understanding alone but maybe we can't, maybe it needs a confluence of many factors and many fronts??

I have no answers, I have some feelings and hunches. I have reached no "higher plain" (though I think thank you for that), I have very bad days that call into question my core beliefs of pacifism and my spiritual choices.

The process of being able to stand back and clinically observe the situation with dispassion and unbiased attitude is much to ask for from anyone on all topics political in America these days.... maybe with a little more time and maybe winning a few battles in the Senate will do much to ease the paranoia filled lives more and more of us our leading, I don't know...

Lastly, "I don't want to see them hurt" either. That statement alone covers all your prior reasoning which is just about fine as can be with me.

Peace to you Apple.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 06:24 PM
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28. I know it is hard. I guess I am not asking you all to stand back and
have no feeling. I am asking you to grieve the loss of your country. The way things used to be. To cry and pass through all the stages. So that you can hit that higher plan.

Getting through grief just means that you have accepted the loss. So you are free to laugh at your situation (which is healthy) and to be angry.. but do it from a position of more strength (what doesn't kill you makes you stronger).

Tis very sad. And emotionally exhausting to loose out and have your life attacked. I know about that. You don't have to be dispassionate at all. You just become a little more discerning about the battles you invest in. You pace yourself.

I have not bad experience of D&Ds. My note to them was just that I did read somewhere that CIA operatives are taught to pass lie detector tests by role playing.. and D&D automatically popped into my mind. Did not mean to offend.
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 06:42 PM
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30. Intelligently well put and I can really get behind what you said in many
so thanks for you words...

Ahhhh I now I understand what the D&D comment was. Like I said I thought it was out of character for you and it was. Mostly because it was not intentioned that way. You might not know this but D&D gets a very bad rap in America from many. Fundies say it is the work of the devil, they are constantly portrayed as geeks and nerds in the most unflattering of ways... then again there are many that sort of take pride in there D&D affiliations just for those reasons, so who knows!? lol..

Again thanks for the leverage of you voice,

peace
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 01:18 PM
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11. Gee, I wonder if this will be on CNN tonight?
:eyes:

This is good news, but sadly it's not "news" if no one airs/cares. :(
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 02:33 PM
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17. Of course it is not news.
Baseball games are airing on television today.

:hi:

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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 03:21 PM
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20. So true. Patriarchy at it's finest!
;) :hi:
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 03:14 PM
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19. Recommended. Distribute widely. (nt)
www.missionnotaccomplished.us (a day to reflect on the vast costs of cheating)
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 07:26 PM
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33. So, when does Feeney get polygraphed?
It's his turn.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 08:07 PM
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35. Exactly,
U.S. Rep. Tom Feeney (R-FL) can put this whole matter to rest.
I'm sure he is volunteering to take a polygraph even as we speak!

The Media should be pressured to publicly ask him to do so!
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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 08:28 PM
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36. IT SEEMS TO ME
THE MSM would jump at the chance to get out of this propaganda they are forced to deliver day after day. The true journalists, the true reporters who went to school to learn their trade should use this and many other things that have been uncovered about this administration as ammunition, and ultimately be free from these evil doers, and we can be free too. It seems so simple!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 09:26 PM
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39. Yeah right
I doubt Fenney would because he knows he'd fail that test. I was suspecious at first of Curtis because he told so late in the game (why didn't he come forward in the beginning of the campaigning before they could use the machines?). I just wish they could get Fenney to take a test.
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