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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 10:32 AM
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Bush SS win "no more difficult than flying to Pluto without a spaceship"
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http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/index.html

So, it turns out that "Bush's Brain" is really smart. That seems to be the main point of the fawning profile of Karl Rove in today's New York Times. The Times reports in on Rove's new role as deputy White House chief of staff, telling us that Rove is so knowledgeable about the details of policy decisions that he's sometimes the only person in the room who can understand complex presentations on the economics of Social Security.

In his new job, Rove is running what the Times calls "a sophisticated campaign on behalf of the president's Social Security proposals, employing all the components of the national political machine built to re-elect Mr. Bush" while simultaneously "overseeing policy meetings where the administration's senior officials analyze the competing Social Security proposals, bone up on arcane economic concepts and plot how to hit back at the substantive arguments made by people on the other side of the issue." The Times says that the president is "betting heavily on Mr. Rove's well-chronicled political skills to build public support, hold Republicans together and overcome intense Democratic opposition."

What the Times doesn't say: It's looking like a bad bet. Although George Bush has made Social Security reform his No. 1 domestic priority this year, he has made so little progress on the issue that one Congress-watcher tells Bloomberg that getting legislation passed this year will be "no more difficult than flying to Pluto without a spaceship.'' The harder Bush sells his privatization plan, polls show, the less the public seems to like it.

In all the marveling over Rove's mastery over politics and policy, you might think the Times would take a moment to wonder whether Rove has finally fumbled in the Social Security debate. You'd be wrong. In the penultimate paragraph of the Times' piece, there's a single mention of "grumbling among some Republicans that Mr. Rove has mishandled the Social Security campaign," but it's made without elaboration and then followed instantly by an assurance that it's not so. "Mr. Rove's allies and fans say that he anticipated the difficulties of moving the Social Security debate forward and that he and Mr. Bush remain convinced that they will win in the end," the Times says. "'Anyone who thinks otherwise,' said Charlie Black, a veteran Republican strategist, 'they're underestimating Karl and they're underestimating the president.'"
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 10:36 AM
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1. If Rove is so smart, why don't we know any of the details of the plan?
Is it because the details are so vile that they'd be run out of town on the back of a horse?
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johnnyrocket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 11:04 AM
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3. RIGHT! You just argued FOR why Rove is so smart!
no details...keep is shady...keep harping on the 'obstructionists'.

I'm TELLING you..don't underestimate Rove! I STILL predict a Bush bill ( winning by a few votes, after bashing heads through the night, and paying off senators ) that will eek through!

Watch out...SS is being attacked, don't underestimate Bush's stubborn drive to gut it!
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 11:08 AM
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4. Agreed. n/t
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 10:37 AM
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2. and equally beneficial to America - n/t
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jmcon007 Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 11:15 AM
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5. Bring it on!!
Bush says that "everything is on the table" if the Dems would just show up, right before he says that raising the cap or cutting benefits is not negotiable.

The American people are becoming wise to the fact that Rove and Co DO NOT want a healthy social security, they want it dead and buried. Private accounts is one of those Oliver North-type 'neat ideas' where Wall Street bankers will get even richer while at the same time this devilish social security program will become poorer and eventually die.

The neonuts will NEVER take private accounts off the table, because that would be defeating their entire purpose. What they would be left with is a strategy that might actually shore up SS and that's the last thing they want.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 11:16 AM
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6. Perhaps when Bush snorts coke, he really thinks he's flying to Pluto
Therefore, he feels his Social Security plan is feasible...


Snort coke, fly to Pluto, privatize Social Security
Snort coke, fly to Pluto, privatize Social Security
Snort coke, fly to Pluto, privatize Social Security...



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