Who are Teri Schiavo's Parents

[LEW]

Nobody has brought up who these people are. How have they been able to bring this all the way to the congress? Is it because they are close to Jeb B*sh? Has anyone investigated them? There are so many accusations floating around about the husband, what about her parents????

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[wallock]

2. She is braindead

There isn't a chance for her. She can do nothing. She is COMPLETELY brain dead. She cannot make the slightest reaction to anything.

[Warpy]

22. She can breathe

However, everything above the brainstem is atrophied and filled with fluid.

[LuminousX]

4. Of course

Schiavo's wishes were confirmed by her brother and friend....

How come no one is talking about quality of life issues? Why do her parents want her to continue to live in this state of existence? Is it for Terry or is it because they are unwilling to accept the loss?

Honestly, if I was the husband, I'd divorce her and let the family sort this out, they are obviously some seriously fouled up people if they get off on seeing their daughter continue to suffer like this.

Let's also analyze this on a pragmatic level and tie it into SSI. Who will pay to keep Terry alive after her aging parents die?

[chelsea0011]

16. I've heard this said and I don't understand this reasoning

If this were my wife i couldn't just divorce her and let her parents sort it out. I couldn't turn my back on her like that. Parents are of a diferent viewpoint. It is much harder to let go. Your kids are your blood. Marriage is of only unity to create a family environment. A spouse if much more able to work through these problems.

[LuminousX]

30. The reasoning

isn't sound, I admit. After 15 years of fighting the parents for 'control' I wouldn't have the energy to keep the fight up. If they so desperately want to torture their child like this for some bizarro reason, then let them. I'd want to move on with my life.

And if he wins, the right is going to paint him as a spouse murderer no matter what the courts say. I'd prefer to slip away in obscurity than suffer 24/7 FoxNews coverage comparing me to a serial killer or calling me a spousal terrorist. Hearing talk show hosts make crude jokes about how my current wife better watch out.

[Daphne08]

38. My cousin continued to visit his wife every day -- twice a day

for ten years after something similar to this happened to her.

He later met a woman and they began to date, but he was adamant about not abandoning his wife, and he continued to visit her until the day she passed away.

It isn't always easy to divorce someone you love-- no matter what unexpected circumstances may unfold.

[Binka]

5. She's Had 15 Years Of Rehab WTF Is Wrong With Your Reading Skills

Fact after fact after fact have been posted on this subject here at DU for the past few years. I am at a loss as to why you come here to beat a dead parrot. Give it a fucking rest buddy.

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[LuminousX]

How should pay for Schiavo?

Since I suspect you are opposed to universal healthcare, who should pay for Schiavo's rehab? What if there isn't any money between the parents and husband?

And if she is brought back to a state of barely conscious and requires a full time caretaker, who is responsible for that?

We are facing hypocrisy here since the GOP wants to cut the programs that would benefit Schiavo if she ever came back to bare existence again. Heck, even messing with Social Security Insurance would impact negatively on her.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

26. the "Christian Fundies have agreed to pay for ALL of Maria's care"......

"the 'right to lifer groups' have said they will pay for my7 daughters healthcare." Mr Shindler

i heard him state this on Larry King

[onenote]

32. i suspect there will be plenty of money

after the parents sell their story to the networks and book publishers...Terri will have her feeding tube and they'll have champagne and caviar....

onenote

[Contrary1]

6. Don't forget to stop by the souvenir shop...

on your way out. :hi:

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[Contrary1]

12. No...

you are just too far to the right.

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[Bridget Burke]

20. It's the special quick tour of DU!

Don't miss the Egress!

[Contrary1]

24. Gee, that was quick...

hope he was at least able to pick up a postcard or keychain. ;)

[FormerDittoHead]

28. The more brainwashed they get, the easier it is to spot them. n/t

[Clark2008]

7. Um... no. Actually, it took a few years to wind throughout the

court system.
Granted, Michael Schiavo took a few years to get Terri rehabilitation before it was decided she couldn't be helped.
She's had rehabilitation treatment. She has a guardian ad litem who says she doesn't respond - he tried for YEARS to get her to do so. She's had care, dear. She's just gone. She's a shell.
I feel bad for her parents, but she's not coming back.

[BlueEyedSon]

11. I believe he was trying to rehabilitate her all that time.

It took him 8 years to give up hope that she would recover. Until that point her "living will" issues were moot.

[katinmn]

13. Rehab???? Surely you jest.

:eyes:

[fasttense]

14. It's easy to paint the husband as the bad guy.

You don't know what he went through and I hope you never find out. But the parents aren't the bad guys either. They are both (husband and parents) trying to deal with a horrible family tragedy. It is none of our business and the politicians should stay out of it too. But Repukes being what they are, can't help but use this terrible private misfortune to bolster their careers and push their political agenda.

[FormerDittoHead]

25. Listen to a lot of talk radio? I can tell, you know the talking points OK

>The family wants to give her the chance for a chance at some rehabilitation treatment

LOL. Where's that knee-slapping hippo when we need one?

Hey! Rush is coming on in 90 minutes! Be sure not to miss what else you should "find interesting"...

[AntiCoup2K4]

3. Interesting

http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?st=FL&last=Schindler&first=robert

I can't say with 100% certainty that this is her father, but it's a reasonable guess.

[LEW]

8. Thanks, I think you got it

anymore?????

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[AntiCoup2K4]

19. self delete

Mods are on serious caffeine this morning ;)

[Warpy]

27. Moderators deserve a raise

They're earning combat pay on this subject.

[AntiCoup2K4]

17. Actually, this could also be her brother

...Especially after seeing the pictures of him with DeLay and the other pigs. Her parents are likely retired, so it's probably Bobby Jr.

[DenverDem]

21. More salient question, Who is paying the Schindlers' lawyers?

It's not Robert.

Also, why wasn't the family so interested in Terri during the years of obvious eating disorders, when she could have been helped? Oh, that's right, they were in complete denial then, as they are now about the absolute irreversability of her destroyed brain and perpetual vegetative state.

The Schindlers don't love Terri, they love the limelight. If they gave a damn about her they would not want her to endure the torture of her current condition needlessly, so they can be media celebrities and tools for cynical publican propagandists.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

29. the "Right to Life" group said they are paying for the Schlinders lawyers

and also offered to pay michael Schiavo $1 million to give up his gaurdianship

[Warpy]

31. I've worked in head injury units

and I can't dismiss them that way.

Families, which includes spouses as well as parents, are so devastated by the partial loss of a loved one that they will swear every twitch, blink, lip smack, or reflexive grunt is an attempt to communicate. It takes them a very long time to come to terms with the fact that their loved one is gone. Some never do, and that's generally when hospitals, doctors, or other family members petition the court to step in.

It took Michael Schiavo eight years to do this. Her parents are still not able to confront the fact that they've already outlived their daughter. They're also being manipulated by the very worst elements on the far right fringes. I vacillate between compassion and disgust for them, but I've seen where they're coming from all too often.

The only upisde to all of this idiocy is that Schiavo herself is incapable of pain or pleasure. She just IS, unthinking and unknowing.

The down side is the position that every health care worker and every dying patient will now be in. Even living wills and durable powers of attorney for healthcare may be unenforceable if some relative swoops into town and shrieks for heroics, threatening lawsuits.

Nothing good can come out of all of this inappropriate grandstanding over Schiavo's body. And a body is all that is left of her.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

23. their name is Shindler

[DawnneOBTS]

33. Who the Schindlers are...

For those of you who don't know this, neither Terri or Michael Schiavo or any of the Schindlers is originally from Florida (I don't think the Schindlers lived here at all before Terri's condition occurred). They are from Montgomery County, PA. Her family are very rich Main Liners (area West of Philadelphia), and are GENEROUS REPUBLICAN CONTRIBUTORS. This case has been on the Philadelphia TV news, as well as all over the Republican hell they call Florida. If her parents were not who they were, the case would have never gotten this far at all. Do you think if they were Dems anyone would have cared? Of course if they were, they wouldn't be this stupid to have congress decide when life really ends. I really wonder exactly how much they gave to W's campaign. Poor Michael Schiavo, that's all I can say.

[LEW]

39. thanks dawnneOBTS

I knew there had to be more to the parents then what has been reported on MSM....I rest my case, politics and money, politics and money, politics and money....................

[riverwalker]

34. her malpractice lawsuit

gave her $400,000 I believe, which is long gone by now after 15 years of 24 hour care. The same people yelling for more "rehab" are the same ones who support malpractice tort reform and a cap of $250,000.
Hypocrites.

[Warpy]

35. The total was a million

$700,000 for her care (which is certainly gone) and $300,00 to her husband for "loss of consortium." He has stated he put his share into a trust to be used for her care. Her parents have insisted that he promised to split the award with them.

Funny how money always gets found at the bottom of every family dispute.

[napi21]

36. The total award was about $1 million.

It was put directly into a trust to care for Terri and administered by a trustee. Michael had absolutely nothing to do with it. There is about $50,000 remaining, and the cost of her care is $80,000 per year.

A PDF link was on DU last night that detailed all that went on in Terri's case over the last 14 years, and there were some interesting things burried in it. One was a statement by Terri's parents that they didn't care what Terri's wishes were, they didn't want that feeding tube removed, PERIOD!

Sorry, I didn't save the link and I don't have search rights.

[Warpy]

37. Here ya go

http://www.abstractappeal.com/

It has the same information and it's not a wretched PDF file.

[OneTwentyoNine]

40. Hell,its the same bunch that screams FRIVOLOUS LAWSUITS....

and wants a 250K cap on medical lawsuits. Then this SAME group gets laws passed on bankruptcy which could very well happen to her parents if this goes on for another decade.


Excuse me, I have to go bang my head against a concrete pillar