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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:45 PM
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Truth or falsehood of this?
Got this from a friend in my e-mail, I told her I would check up on it asap and find out if it is true or not.


You really should be sitting down when you read this one.





Gold Star Mothers is an organization made up of women whose sons were killed
in military combat during service in the United States armed forces.






Recently a delegation of New York State Gold Star Mothers made a trip to
Washington, DC, to discuss various concerns with their elected
representatives.




According to published reports, there was only one politician who refused to
meet with these ladies.




Can you guess which politician that might be?



Was it New York Senator Charles Schumer? Nope, he met with them.





Try again.



Do you know anyone serving in the Senate who has never showed anything but
contempt for our military?



Do you happen to know the name of any politician in Washington who's husband
once wrote of his loathing for the military? Now you're getting warm! You
got it!





None other than the Queen herself, Hillary Rotten Clinton. She refused
repeated requests to meet with the Gold Star Mothers.




Now, please don't tell me you're surprised. This woman wants to be President
of the United States --- and there is a huge percentage of Voters who are
eager to help her achieve that goal.


May you sleep in peace always...and please...hug or thank a Veteran for that
privilege.




Think about this one !!!




Don't forget, our girl, Hillary Rodham Clinton, as a New York Senator, now
comes under this fancy congressional Retirement and Staffing Plan.


It's common knowledge that, in order for her to establish NYS residency,
they purchased a million+ dollar house in upscale Chappaqua, NY.



Makes sense.




Now, they are entitled to Secret Service protection for life.


Still makes sense.



Here is where it becomes interesting. The mortgage payments hover at about
$10,000 per month. BUT, an extra residency had to be built within the
acreage in order to house the Secret Service agents.




The Clinton's now charge the Secret Service $10,000 monthly rent for the use
of said Secret Service residence and that rent is just about equal to their
mortgage payment, .......meaning that we, the tax payers, are paying the
Clinton's mortgage, their transportation, their safety and security, their
12 man staff, and it's all perfectly legal.


Sincerely, Cdr. Hamilton McWhorter USN (ret)



PS: Please forward this to as many people as you can. We don't want this
woman to even think of running for President. So, just how many people can
you send this to? It will take no more than 2 minutes. Thanks

I'm checking snopes right now, looks and sounds like what was done to Gore and Kerry so I think it might be a repeat.

That and I'm thinking of making an e-mail where I get two Bush quotes and two Hitler quotes and send them out, anyone know any good ones?
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:47 PM
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1. OMG...
This is soooo ancient! And total fiction:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/goldstar.asp

Have fun replying to your friend!

:hi:
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:49 PM
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3. Did
I know she isn't a Bushie so I'm sure that she isn't the source, so I sent that back to her.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:57 PM
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9. Excellent.
Now she can send it back up the line to whoever sent it to her!

:silly:
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:47 PM
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2. Found it
http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/goldstar.asp

Claim: New York Senator Hillary Clinton refused to meet with a delegation of Gold Star mothers.

Status: False.

Example:

Looks like this will have to be kicked around.
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Maccagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:50 PM
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4. All assertions made in the "letter" have been debunked
many times over. Snopes.com (no friend of the Clintons) has this on their site. Even the Gold Star Mothers were angry enough to call out this lie on their website.
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:51 PM
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5. Please clean up the column spacing.
Edited on Mon Mar-14-05 08:52 PM by brainshrub
I'm no big fan of Senator Clinton, but this doesn't sound like something she would do.

ON EDIT: Thanks knight_of_the_star for the link! :yourock:
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:51 PM
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6. Fuck them, ask 'em to show YOU an online reference from a real
newspaper or news company (i.e., not Talon :spank:).

I know you've already Snoped it now, but I throw this kind of shit right back in their face, making even BIGGER lies than they spew at me. "Yeah, I heard about that, but it doesn't cancel out the fact that Tom Delay was caught masturbating on a DC bus the other day...in a dress." etc.
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 12:17 AM
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16. Tom Delay was caught masturbating on a DC bus...in a dress?
That's an image that is now seared into my memory forever, thanks alot.

That and Gannon peeing. These are the images the Pepubicans are leaving for me.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 06:57 AM
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21. I REPLY TO ALL and embarass the f***ing hell out of them
I usually add, "now ask yourselves why you are so willing to believe such utter propaganda when ten seconds' research on the web would have told you it was CRAP."
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manly Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 05:41 PM
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22. reply to all
I can't find a "reply to all" button anywhere. What's the trick?
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 07:06 PM
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23. whatever e-mail system you use, it should have a "reply" or
"reply to all" button.

Using "reply to all" sends your reply not only to the person who originally wrote you, but to anyone else they included in their "write to" list.

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manly Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 10:03 PM
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24. reply to all
thank you, justitia. now I just have to figure out how to get from here to there(I'm relatively new at this, as you might have guessed).
rw
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 10:18 PM
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25. I do too - and got some very interesting hate mails back.
Which I promptly threw back at them.

If they are going to send me shit, I'm going to send them the TRUTH and MY FEELINGS in a very non-polite way. And I get less polite with each email.

They always stop sending me their crap.

Always.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:53 PM
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7. a-n-c-i-e-n-t
and false
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:53 PM
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8. This is total horse shit! Hit delete.....
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:59 PM
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11. NO! Don't hit delete!
Hit "Reply To All", call it total horseshit, and include the link to Snopes AND the Gold Star Mothers (it's debunked on thier website).

Never allow horseshit to go unanswered. Answer it quickly, correctly, and strongly. Don't let them Gore and Kerry the debate.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:14 PM
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14. Are you sure about that, I would think it would give non-deliverable
...type error message or something.
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 12:03 AM
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15. Nope.
At least, not on the servers I use. After all, what is the 'reply to all' function for if not refuting horseshit?
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 12:27 AM
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17. I built one of those models when I was a kid..............and
living in england at the time, all of the them, spitfire, thunderbolt, focke wolfe, tempest, all of them..we lived on an RAF base and could still play in the bomb shelters left over...and when they had the battle of britain day in the fall, the real spitfires were there :-)

seeing your model box sure brought it all back...

Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm

PS - the beatles played at our teen club before they were famous and we didnt know or care since it was kids dance.
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 12:50 AM
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19. Happy memories, I hope.
I also built the model...
But by the time I built it, the Beatles had already broken up.

When I visited Darwin Australia, I went to the air museum... the only WW2 planes they had on display were a B-25 Mitchell, a P-51B Mustang, and a P-40E Warhawk... the Spitfire, Hurricane and Typhoon were 'in the shop' for renovation.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:58 PM
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10. False urban legend. n/t
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:59 PM
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12. Cmdr is wrapping self in flag, he's a chickenshit claiming
priviledges and 'his due' over people who are really carrying the freight. The commander claims he is S-p-e-c-i-a-l because he is a veteran,and implies that he knows about the sacrifice of these Gold Star Moms. We have no idea what sacrifices he ever made or dangers he might of faced. He implies some expertise based solely on randk in the Navy. He is full of shit. This squid is a shit bird.



With regard to the NewsMax article concerning our organization,
the American Gold Star Mothers, Inc., deeply regret the misunderstanding
about Senator Hillary Clinton. The two mothers who visited Washington
did not have an appointment with the Senator and she was not in her office
on that day. We would appreciate it if the e-mails and negative comments
about Senator Clinton would cease.

http://www.goldstarmoms.com/
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:01 PM
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13. typical right wing garbage
and I'm surprised the usual Hillary bashers didn't take the bait.



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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 12:27 AM
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18. WTF? I just saw on C-Span a couple of weeks ago, in a Dem Policy Cmte
Edited on Tue Mar-15-05 12:37 AM by Carolab
meeting, she acknowledged and thanked the GoldStarMoms, who were seated right there.

This clears this up:
http://www.nobodyaskedme.com/commentaries/2003/hillaryclintongoldstar.htm
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 04:44 AM
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20. Dupe
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