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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 12:04 PM
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Gannon: My boss just told me that Gannon/Guckert was originally
from Cincinnati before Delaware! To lend credence to this tidbit of info, my boss is gay (not that there is anything wrong with that) and is very much plugged in to the local scene. Just checked people.yahoo.com and there is a James B and a William E Guckert in the 513 Cincinnati area code.

Has anyone seen any pre Delaware info on Bulldog Guckert?



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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 12:07 PM
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1. it would make sense
plenty of deep dark GOP closets in that town.

i'm from there so i can say it.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 12:16 PM
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6. Wasn't the head of Summit GOP caught soliciting young men for sex?
He's a real operator in GOP circles, and much of his indiscretions have been covered up while he continues to reign supreme as the top Republican in that part of Ohio.

Maybe there is a huge blackmail circuit going on that allows these folks to stay in power...and not just in Ohio.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 12:08 PM
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2. Another Ohio connection?
Hmmm....
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 12:12 PM
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3. My boss mentioned a UC connection before whatever college
Guckert claims to have attended. I want to do some gumshoeing! Where do I start? Can we get transcripts that would indicate a transfer? Should I look at the old phone books in the library?
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 12:16 PM
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7. do they have that same fraternity at UC?
.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 12:32 PM
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13. what is the name of the fraternity?
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 12:40 PM
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16. Tau Kappa Epsilon University of Cincinnati YES!
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 12:43 PM
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18. Phooey!
Haven't you heard? TKEs aren't greek! :P
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 12:18 PM
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8. Try the yearbooks first.
Look for about a six year span of the years you think he might have been there. You should be able to view them at the library. Check the index under both names. If he was in a fraternity, sports, journalism, politically active organization, he likely put his mug in front of the lens.

You might also try a search of the catalog (hopefully it's on-line) of the local and student newspapers. :)

I don't think you can get transcripts.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 02:06 PM
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27. try class mates.com. probably has another porno pic there...
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 11:04 PM
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52. CIty Directories are even better
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 12:14 PM
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4. I read that there was a J Guckert who attended high school in NW PA...
Lake Conneaut, PA, graduating 1975, I think. But I cannot recall where I read that--maybe the dailyKos diaries? I never saw it again so maybe it was discredited. It is not that far to Ohio though, an hour or so...

It just fascinates me that this man has no history that anyone can find. That alone makes him a figure of suspicion.
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 12:29 PM
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12. Wouldn't that make him about 48?
Is he that old?
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 12:34 PM
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14. I do think he is 47, but uses younger age for escort business
I saw footage of him in daylight and you can see it around his eyes.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 01:23 PM
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20. If he is, he sure looks damn good for 47.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 02:39 PM
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30. he's gay and they use skincare products n/t
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 07:43 PM
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47. I've always assumed the "beefcake" pics are either old or phoshopped.
If you've seen him on TV both during the press gaggles and the recent brouhaha, he looks jowlier and heavier, not exactly fat but "middle age heavy" to me.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 10:59 PM
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51. You are correct, at the press gaggles he looks mid forty..ish
Edited on Tue Mar-01-05 11:00 PM by cat_girl25
with his face looking fuller but on the Anderson Cooper video he looks much younger.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 06:41 PM
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55. The Anderson Cooper interview would be TV studio lighting...
They do try to make their anchors look appealing, no reason not to give interviewees the same lighting.

The web designer that built his escort page said Jeff looked 40 at a time when Jeff was portraying himself to be younger. That was at least 4 years ago.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 08:50 PM
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56. Well they did a very good job.
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seventythree Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 08:06 PM
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49. speaking of discredited
what has become of the snap shot off of CNN which showed baldy in the 4th row of the press room in November??? It was on the WH site, if I recall correctly, because there was some nexus to a children's event. I never heard another thing about it and everyone just used the February snap shot as proof of when he first got in, and, of course, no one ever asked him when he first started attending wh briefings.
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harrison Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 12:15 PM
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5. Yeah, what's up with Cincinnati? Wasn' t that where the
Mapplethorpe exhibit created such a fuss a few years ago?
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 12:21 PM
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10. I think that was Cleveland.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 12:36 PM
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15. yes it was cincinnati
its blue nose central.

one of my clearest memories of high school in the late 70's was when simon leis, the city prosecutor, put larry flynt up on obscenity charges for selling hustler in the city limits. this was before someone put a bullet in his spine.

flynts' response was to call leis a hypocrite (he is), and mail a glossy full color circular of war atrocities to every house in hamilton county. it was an eye popper. the parents flipped out, but not before every kid in the city saw it.

it had a simple message: war is the real obscenity, not pink. that got through loud & clear, but the mob speaks loudly in cincinnati, so flynt is gone.

they've also pulled issues of cosmo off the shelves.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 01:33 PM
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22. That would explain why they found Guckie's DNA
all over the display . . .
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 07:04 PM
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42. Yes...
and it was crazy when they tried to stop it. Must have pushed sales up by about 5000 % !
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zipplewrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 12:20 PM
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9. Why Gannon?
  It has occurred to me that there must have been some
inspiration for choosing the name Gannon.  And there must have
been some inspiration for deciding to go with a false name to
begin with.  Figuring that out might lead a long way to
understanding the story behind this guy.
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 12:25 PM
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11. Why Bedrock (the name of his "company")?
Flintstone's home town.

". . . We'll have a GAY old time"
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 03:48 AM
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53. And He'll Yabba-Dabba DO ya :)
but remember.. he's a top:)
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 01:24 PM
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21. Also, why "Talon"? (n/t)
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 01:39 PM
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25. Here's a curiosity:
Talon is also the name of a news magazine for a "Task Force Eagle," whatever that is/was.
http://www.tfeagle.army.mil/tfetalon/
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 02:08 PM
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28. Why talon? They leave claw marks. Like Jeffie.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 10:43 AM
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54. No, remember he said "I don't leave marks, only impressions" N/T
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 02:44 PM
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31. Think Ashcroft singing...
"Let the Eagle Soar" lalalala

Amen.
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cheezus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 01:35 PM
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23. he's after the triforce
when's the hero of time going to show up?
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 07:08 PM
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44. Ah yes! And who is his Zelda?
The dorf behind the curtain is a gamer!
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 07:50 PM
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48. Wisdom Courage and POWER!











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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 02:14 PM
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29. Rhymes with Cannon?
Phallic with a military spin...
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 06:38 PM
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39. Maybe 'Joe Gannon' - Ironsides ?
The William Conrad cop show from the 70's ??

:shrug:
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 12:42 PM
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17. I am off to the library to check old phone books!
and city directories.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 01:22 PM
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19. Come back and let us know what you can find.
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 01:40 PM
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26. I remember hearing that he was an X wrestler
Check out the wrestling team rosters at CU, too.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 02:46 PM
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32. There was a Louise Guckert (widow) of John in 1976 living at
3737 Bank Ct. in Cheviot Ohio (Hamilton County) Also in Cheviot a Norbert Gannon on Gamble Ave. in Cheviot (Cheviot is very small community, actually a neighborhood in Cincinnati.

3737 Bank Ct. is a 2 family, not owned by Guckert in 1976.

Bedrock Enterprises Inc.
(513) 574-3884
4060 Simca Ln
Cincinnati, OH 45211

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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 01:36 PM
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24. I went to grad school in Cincinnati and was horrified to learn that
Blackwell went to the same school, Xavier U. Would be great to connect those two.
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Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 02:59 PM
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33. West Chester University?


http://www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily/10887859.htm

snip:

Much to my chagrin, the left-leaning Americablog was on to the real story.

A nationally geared blog, it linked Guckert with West Chester University, citing an electronic trail of evidence.

When I called WCU on Friday, it quickly confirmed -- sans blog-ish speculation -- that a J.D. Guckert graduated from the institution in 1980.

That appears to line up with public records, which report Guckert was born in 1957.

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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 03:30 PM
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35. If he graduated in 80 from West Chester University, where did he
go from there?

I found a Cincinnati mention here:

http://www.able2know.com/forums/about45347.html

this apparently came from a Salon forum:

And when I did some "People Find" checks, I found an entry for "James Dale Guckert" (AKA Jim Dale Guckert), age 47, of Delaware. He was matched with two addresses in Newark, five in Wilmington, and one in Cincinnati, OH. (But you had to pay to get the complete report on him, so I didn't.) Anyway, I'm guessing that James/Jeff used to live in Cincinatti (and maybe attended college there), and has bounced around Delware since then. And he may not actually live on Capitol Hill (at least, he may not have registered his Nissan Pathfinder and his Beretta in D.C.)

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this_side_up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 03:09 PM
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34. ancestry.com (eom)
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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 06:17 PM
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36. good going, rosebud!
you know what's odd is that I was doing a LOT of websurfing last week, looking for connections, and I swear I came across something that connected him to Cincy, but summarily dismissed it because of the whole PA/DE/DC thing. Wish I could remember what it was...

anyway, I'm recommending this thread!

:yourock:
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 07:34 PM
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45. Louise may be his grandma, maybe he was in Cincinnati after
West Chester University hanging out at gay clubs. Maybe he lived with his grandma. What is Guckert's mother's name?
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 06:26 PM
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37. Isn't Bedrock Enterprises a company name he ran under?
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 07:35 PM
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46. yes
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 06:27 PM
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38. here's my guess:
James Guckert is as phony as Jeff Gannon.

Just a wild ass guess.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 06:56 PM
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40. I think Guckert is very likely his real name
He attended West Chester under that name more than 20 years ago. Why would you get a degree under an alias?
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 07:02 PM
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41. Perhaps somebody with that name
attended the West Chester UP campus, then again maybe not. I've seen no actual real data that says that the person now known as James Guckert is in fact who he claims to currently be. In fact I've seen no interest in the MSM to do any investigation at all of the purported Mr. Guckert. It is like there is a big HANDS OFF, YELLOW POLICE TAPE all around Mr. Guckert. I wonder why that is?

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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 10:13 PM
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50. This has all been covered here and elsewhere.
The name James Guckert is listed on an alumnus page on West Chester's TKE Fraternity's website. The email address given on that page for that name is jdg17@aol.com. The webpage for that AOL member, members.aol.com/jdg17, has a picture of Gannon/Guckert.
The guy is a phony and a whore (in more ways than one) but it seems pretty likely that Guckert is his real name.
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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 07:05 PM
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43. I for one
am glad we are keeping this Gannon/Guckert on the front burner! let's demand to hear more of those tapes Wead made too! Don't forget they stole the election! AGAIN!
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