Petition to send to Congess for verifiable Voting Law:

[rasputin1952]

From moveon.org:

Subject: We need to repair the vote now

Hi,

After the last two presidential elections, it's incredibly important to repair our election system. We need to guarantee paper printouts for electronic voting machines, cut long lines, and prohibit partisan election officials.

There's lots of legislation in Congress to do just that, and we need to demand our representatives pass it immediately.

I just signed a petition to Congress. Can you join me by signing this petition?

http://www.moveonpac.org/repairthevote/

This is urgent because states are preparing to spend over a billion dollars on new electronic voting machines. Unless Congress requires paper printouts now, we'll be stuck with expensive machines that can't do a simple recount.

I hope you'll sign this petition to Congress:

http://www.moveonpac.org/repairthevote/

If you are so inclined, please fgo to the site and sign the Petition.

Thanks,

Ras

[bardgal]

1. This is useless! The ONLY solution is to BAN E-VOTING!

This petition is a joke. Getting a paper receipt is nothing more than a false panacea. It won't guard against e-fraud.

So what if you have your little piece of paper when the thieves will never allow a close enough election to warrant a recount?

PAPER ONLY. PUBLIC OVERSIGHT. OPEN VOTE COUNTING.

that's the ONLY acceptable solution!

[rasputin1952]

2. But your not going to stop e-voting....we still need something to

verify ballots.

Sometimes, you have to take what you can get...this certainly beats the alternative...RW control over every aspect of our voting procedure.

You can blow all the steam you want, but action is all that will accomplish anything...:)

[eaglenetsupport]

4. Yes we can stop e-voting

[rasputin1952]

5. Tell me HOW....If you have answers, I'll back them...

but a blanket statement will do little more than incite more questions.

What do you know that I don't?

Input please...:)

[eaglenetsupport]

7. One of the easiest things to do

Compared to talking your senator into it.

Let's say your from California, and for the sake of argument let's say there is only one thing (about ten really) wrong, computers, and you wanted paper ballots only. Form a legal petition at the secretary of states office and ask the voters "Should the people of California eliminate computers from collecting elections information and replace them with paper only hand counted ballots?" Yes or No. It'll win because we nearly have a majority on the issue already before any voter education or campaigning has even begun.

Qualifying it is nothing, people will sign anything to get a vote on an issue. File in ten states on the same day and you create a national agenda around the issue, insuring financial and political support.
This isn't a blanket statement without a merit. See eight prohibition initiatives, 1931. They had a good time doing it, made it into a party, and coined the term block parties.

Frankly I'm a little burned out on these, Write your congressmen movies, it's a re-run. HELLOOO, THEY AREN'T LISTENING.

[Massacure]

6. Making the E-voting code open source, let everyone see it.

God knows how many programmers are in this country, one is bound to open their big fat mouth if something is wrong.

E-voting is cheaper and easier. It just has to be done right. It can't have any stupid windows OS with a hush hush program executable.

[eaglenetsupport]

8. E-voting is not cheaper is certainly not easier

It's true that it could be done. Banks do it. But they're setting up systems that generate a profit and run every day and therefore can support an IT security department.. We're talking here a system that will run one day every two years. Little old ladies in tennis shoes don't cost anything. And that sweet smile would never rip you off.

Another one they run all the time. It'll take forever to count all those votes. the typical precinct with 1-2000 voters can be counted in 30-40 minutes. Show me someone that says otherwise and I'll show someone that hasn't worked the pols or is a lie'in repub disinformation agent.

Just for the record department, $45 Million in paper currency was stolen last year while $550 million was stolen electronically.

And Hell how you going to secure all those either nets given the fact that insiders invariably are involved.

[eaglenetsupport]

3. Disgusting, I can't believe moveon is joining in

with the republiclones and DLC.

They need to research this kind of thing before they sign on to it. I'm heading over there to bitch.

[Califooyah Operative]

9. Done. nt