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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 04:58 PM
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Swift Boat Liars
Please keep these bastards alive in your conversations with the constitution haters amongst us. If an American Citizen supports the evil perpetrated by these scum, then the supporters obviously are sad that Americans are no longer dying in Vietnam. Deductive reasoning will turn the light on. Don't let the scum deny it. Pin them to the wall. CONSERVATIVES LOVE AMERICAN BODY COUNT. It is sexual to them.

How many Americans must be slaughtered in Iraq to satisfy falwell and robertson and dobson and all the republican scum in congress?

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marc_the_dem Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 05:03 PM
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1. what can we do
to combat these worthless scumbags...
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 05:10 PM
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2. Yes, we need to make a direct tie to them marketing war for Bush ...
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 05:57 PM
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5. I have the documents
that directly tie the Bush/Cheney Campaign and the SBVT's.

I turned them over to the Kerry Campaign back in August, but of course, they didn't do anything with them.

If anyone is interested in them, I'd be glad make copies.
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 05:17 PM
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3. The Swift Boat Veterans For Truth are Buddy-FXXXXrs
Two of the founding leadership of John O'Neil's/Karl Roves "Swift Boat Veterans For Truth" were involved in the gross negligence and dereliction of duty that resulted in "friendly fire" killings and in the subsequent cover-up.

http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/WEBCUTTERS/Point_We...

http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/WEBCUTTERS/Point_We...

http://www.aug.edu/~libwrw/ptwelcome/PointWelcome2.html

This one is a PDF:
http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/WEBCUTTERS/Point_We...

Nice guys - we had a name for their kind in Viet Nam - Buddy FXXXXrs
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 05:50 PM
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4. I read this web posting and thought an investigation is warranted
Edited on Tue Jan-11-05 06:14 PM by EVDebs
"Call For Investigation Of Conduct By Swift Boat Veterans For Truth In Vietnam"

http://www.independent-media.tv/item.cfm?fmedia_id=8754...

This website
http://www.swiftboats.net /
allows for more actual crew and boat research.

It appears from Kerry's record that he commanded PCF 44 and PCF 94
http://www.johnkerry.com/about/john_kerry/service_timel...
PCF 44
John Forbes Kerry, LTJG, OinC 12/68-1/69 An Thoi/Cat Lo Boston, MA
PCF 94
John Forbes Kerry, LTJG, OinC 2/69-3/69 An Thoi Boston, MA (replaced Peck - 1/30/69)

From past statements O'Neill has said that average service aboard a Swift boat was 12 months. Kerry's was about four months, from the swift site alone...

John O'Neill's takeover on Kerry's boat shows
John Ellis O'Neill, LTJG, OinC (email deleted) 9/69-3/70 An Thoi/Cat Lo Houston, TX

So O'Neill's service on the Swift boat was about six months. Ahem, Kerry's total service record of about 3 and 1/2 years is smeared by a guy who only served about 5 or 6 months on a swift boat and who told "Mainstreamedia" that the average service on a swiftboat waa 12 months:
"In the Swifts, says O'Neill, the average length of service was twelve months; John Kerry was in for four."

http://www.nationalreview.com/rose/rose200404211228.asp

Why isn't an investigation by MSM themselves being done ? The Lie Boat ! To top it off this guy O'Neill was badgering Kerry about claiming to be in Cambodia--which no one with or without security clearances would or should have been talking about--while himself making the claim to Pres. Nixon (discovered only because of the WhiteHouse taping system ! Thanks Dick) http://www.washingtondispatch.com/spectrum/archives/000... .

The SBVFT should be investigated further and ALL of their lies exposed.

Beyond that, articles like "Nixon's Treason" should be examined further since the origin of October Surprise can be found there in 1968's scuttling of a potential peace agreement, that would have saved around 20,000 US troops, which many have speculated would have been identical to the 1973 accord.

The resulting Toledo Blade awardwinning articles that verify Kerry's Winter Soldier testimony, along with a viewing of Stanley Karnow's 'Vietnam: A History" on PBS, would also go a long way to explaining why these SBVFT are just attempting to rewrite history.

Sen Kerry served his country honorably and these attempts to smear him rightly deserve to be exposed in their full ugliness.




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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 06:52 PM
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6. Gardner was on O'Really the other night
with his tin cup. He's blaming Democrats for the loss of his job. Faux is trying to find him a new one.
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